RIP Cecil the Lion

Unclebaldrick

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If we were really that close to bonobos, this would be porn. And it is still up - so it's not. It's not about the commonalities. Vive le difference.

Whoops, sorry. I forgot what this thread was about... so here is a picture of the dentist's office and a randy dog.

 
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Rrog

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It's fucked up that people are so focused on shooting something just for the psychological charge of killing.

It's one of those sorts of things that I believe would be very embarrassing to try to explain to an extraterrestrial visitor. Nothing quite says "we are uncivilized" as much as trophy killing
 

dux

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Fuck all the innocent people that are killed daily.kill an animal that had a name and the world comes unglued..

Kinda like the people that protest the killing of dolphins because they wreck the tuna nets.well, what about the tuna?
 

Milovan

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Every day millioms of pigs chickens and cows aare killed and nobody gives a shit abpit them what makes this lion so special
Those millions of chickens, pigs and cows were bred to be killed and eaten and never would have been alive if it wasn't for that fact. The lion was not born to be killed and eaten. Also like you said there are millions of chickens, cows and pigs but
lions are extremely far from those numbers. Lions are also majestic unlike a chicken, pig etc...
King of the jungle suffered with that aero in him for quite awhile before it was killed also.
Inhumane kill.
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GreatwhiteNorth

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One lion killed & the world is outraged.
Over 100,000 elephants illegally killed in 730 days with virtually no notice.
o_O


As the world mourned Cecil the lion, five of Kenya's endangered elephants were slain

Kevin Sieff
July 30, 2015
NAIROBI, Kenya - While the world mourned Cecil, the 13-year-old lion allegedly shot by an American hunter in Zimbabwe, an even more devastating poaching incident was quietly carried out in Kenya.

Poachers killed five elephants in Tsavo West National Park on Monday night. The carcasses were recovered by rangers on Tuesday morning - what appeared to be an adult female and her four offspring, their tusks hacked off.

Zimbabweans linked to illegal lion kill by Minnesota dentist appear in court
While the killing of the lion in Zimbabwe has attracted the world's attention, the death of the five elephants has received almost no coverage, even though elephants are under a far greater threat from poachers than lions. Their tusks can be sold in Asia for more than $1,000 per pound.

"It's just devastating," said Paul Gathitu, a spokesman for Kenya Wildlife Service. "It took us completely by surprise."

Kenyan investigators say the poachers crossed the border from neighboring Tanzania, slaughtered the elephants and then quickly returned to their base, making them difficult to track. Tsavo stretches along the border for more than 50 miles.

Rangers heard gunshots ring out on Monday evening. They searched all night through the vast park and discovered the carnage the next morning. There was blood and loose skin where the tusks were cut off. Kenyan authorities say the poachers escaped on motorcycles, carrying their loot.

In recent years, the poaching of elephants has increased exponentially because of the demand for ivory in Asia, where it's used for unproven medicinal purposes. Between 2010 and 2012, poachers killed more than 100,000 African elephants - a level of destruction that put the species on the road to extinction. Unlike many other animals, elephants mourn the death of their brethren, wrapping their trunks around the bones or carcasses of the deceased.

While the African lion population is also under threat, it is largely because their habitats are being destroyed by farmers and developers, not because the animals are hunted

Kenyan authorities say they were making progress in the fight against poachers before the recent killing at Tsavo. Last year, the government deployed 550 new rangers. Advances in technology have allowed researchers to monitor herds using GPS trackers, gauging when they might be under threat based on their movement and speed.

"We've increased our intelligence and our operations. We were having success," Gathitu said. "That's why we're so surprised."

In Tsavo, investigators are searching for the men who killed the five elephants. Two suspects have been arrested. Security officials found a bloodstained ax and a hacksaw in one of their homes.

It's not just Kenya where mass elephant killings occur. In Congo, 30 elephants were killed in 15 days earlier this year in Garamba National Park. The illegal wildlife trade is valued at $7 billion to $10 billion annually


"We are in an elephant crisis right now," Iain Douglas-Hamilton, the founder of Save the Elephants, a nongovernmental organization, told The Washington Post recently.

Just two days before the Tsavo elephants were killed, President Barack Obama announced during a visit to Kenya that he would introduce more restrictions in the United States to diminish the market for ivory there. The regulation would prevent the sale of ivory from African elephants across state lines.

But the United States makes up only a fraction of the international ivory market, and regulations in Asia remain loosely enforced.

http://www.adn.com/article/20150730/world-mourned-cecil-lion-five-kenyas-endangered-elephants-were-slain
 

wascaptain

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from the facts(?) I am getting from the news..i say it was a bad hunt and illegal kill. both the doc and guide should be liable.
 

BarnBuster

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Sadly, "modern" Africa is much like we were not so long ago re:conservation. Perhaps if/when the states reach a first world status, things will change.

Alexander Wilson, the father of American ornithology, speaks of a flight of these birds traveling with great steadiness and rapidity, at a height beyond gunshot, several strata deep, very close together, and "from right to left as far as the eye could reach,the breadth of this vast procession extended; seeming everywhere equally crowded." From half-past one to four o'clock in the afternoon, while he was traveling to Frankfort, Ky, the same living torrent rolled overhead, seemingly as extensive as ever. He estimated the flock that passed him to be two hundred and forty miles long and a mile wide -- probably much wider -- and to contain two billion two hundred and thirty million, two hundred and seventy-two thousand pigeons.

Audubon states he saw that day what he thought to be the largest flight of passenger pigeons he had ever seen. The air was literally filled with them; and the "light of noonday was obscured as by an eclipse." Before sunset he reached Louisville, fifty five miles from Hardensburgh, and during all that time Pigeons were passing in undiminished numbers. This continued for three days in succession. Audubon estimated the number of pigeons passing overhead (in a flock one mile wide) for three hours, traveling at the rate of a mile a minute, allowing two pigeons to the square yard, a one billion, one hundred and fifteen million, one hundred and thirty-six thousand....

Extinction of the passenger pigeon came with stunning rapidity. Michigan was its last stronghold; about three million birds were shipped east from there by a single hunter in 1878. Eleven years later, 1889, the species was extinct in that state. Although small groups of pigeons were held in various places in captivity, efforts to maintain those flocks failed.

“The enormous multitudes of the pigeons made such an impression upon the mind that the extinction of the species at that time, and for many years afterward, seemed an an impossibility..” John Audubon

The last known individual of the species, a female named Martha, died in 1914 in the Cincinnati Zoo and is now on display in the U.S. National Museum of Natural History.
 

Singlemalt

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Hey Barn, was there any commercial value to the passenger pigeon? I once read an account that that wiping them out was primarily recreation. Yeah, poor folks would eat them but that it was more of just folks shooting cuz they could and didn't choose to do anything else
 

BarnBuster

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Hey Barn, was there any commercial value to the passenger pigeon? I once read an account that that wiping them out was primarily recreation. Yeah, poor folks would eat them but that it was more of just folks shooting cuz they could and didn't choose to do anything else
Yeah, they did have commercial value. Easterners developed a liking for pigeon meat and slaves in the South were fed the meat almost exclusively. Feathers were used to stuff pillows and mattresses and for decoration/fashion. Also fed to hogs and of course shot for sport. The decimation of the great forests by logging, especially nut bearing trees which was their prime food source, greatly contributed to decline.

Their huge roosting flocks proved self-destructive as well. A quote:

“The gigantic colonies may have moved from site to site not because of predators, but because of their effect on their nesting and roosting grounds. Larger colonies covered anywhere between 30 and 850 square miles. Descriptions of those sites indicated that nearly every tree in the area supported a nest, and some had as many as 500 nests. Under such weight tree branches collapsed and trunks more than 2 feet in diameter were snapped off at the base. The droppings of the birds blanketed the forest floor and killed the understorey. Even the most productive forests could support such a brood for a few months at most.”

Also, I'm sure they were considered a pest. Can you imagine the noise, stink and tonnage of bird shit a multi million flock would produce?
 
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