Making a commercial grow operation indoor
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patrickkawi37
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what kind of yields are you talking?
Carolina Dream'n
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lol 30k for a warehouse....
My 48 1000 watt warehouse cost 250,000. 100000 for the building, 100000 for the equipment. 50k for the grow buildout and 4 months without income.
My 24 600 warehouse cost 120000. 50000 in equipment, 50000 for the building and 20000 for the grow buildout and 4 months without income.
30k will set you up a really nice 16 lights setup, in a house you already own and that has 200 amp service already. Other than that, your budget or plan needs to be redefined.
My 48 1000 watt warehouse cost 250,000. 100000 for the building, 100000 for the equipment. 50k for the grow buildout and 4 months without income.
My 24 600 warehouse cost 120000. 50000 in equipment, 50000 for the building and 20000 for the grow buildout and 4 months without income.
30k will set you up a really nice 16 lights setup, in a house you already own and that has 200 amp service already. Other than that, your budget or plan needs to be redefined.
jacksthc
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I have done a perpetual grow ( 3 years about 15 crops form one pack of seeds)
flowered with hps
clones under a t5's
vegged under mh
now if you want to grow perpetual and start small but still pull a big yield 10 x 600w should bring in at least 80 oz's, try flowering with 6 x 600w hps (4m x 2.5m room (50cm path) 7pm to 7am in one room and 4 x 600w hps (2m x 2.5m room,( 50cm path) ) 7am to 7pm in a second room and mix the air from both rooms, as this will keep both rooms the same temps and save energy on electric as you don't need to heat the room with the lights off
as mixing both room will reduce the temps in the flower room with the lights on, 2 x 8" ruck fans with 1m of ducting hanging off each side( vertical and tied down) did stop all the light leak from both rooms and didn't affect the air flow much,
1 x 600mh for vegging all your plants in a 4ft x 4ft room (30 plants in 5ltr pots, 6 plants per 600w hps) , the ideal is you have 2 lines in each flower room 2x 3 600w hps in the first flower room and 2 x 2 600w hps in the second flower room, so if you start off with 3 x hps in the first room and 2x 600w in the second room for the first 30 days and then you start off the other side of the room
8 x 4ft Tubes t'5 tubes will keep the clones/young plants happy for the first 3 weeks ( take clones 10 days in 12/12 just before they start to flower)
you want a 4ft x 4ft room to use for potting up, sorting the cutting out and trimming the buds
the 10 days your not using the clone room, doubles up at a place to hang and dry the weed
flowered with hps
clones under a t5's
vegged under mh
now if you want to grow perpetual and start small but still pull a big yield 10 x 600w should bring in at least 80 oz's, try flowering with 6 x 600w hps (4m x 2.5m room (50cm path) 7pm to 7am in one room and 4 x 600w hps (2m x 2.5m room,( 50cm path) ) 7am to 7pm in a second room and mix the air from both rooms, as this will keep both rooms the same temps and save energy on electric as you don't need to heat the room with the lights off
as mixing both room will reduce the temps in the flower room with the lights on, 2 x 8" ruck fans with 1m of ducting hanging off each side( vertical and tied down) did stop all the light leak from both rooms and didn't affect the air flow much,
1 x 600mh for vegging all your plants in a 4ft x 4ft room (30 plants in 5ltr pots, 6 plants per 600w hps) , the ideal is you have 2 lines in each flower room 2x 3 600w hps in the first flower room and 2 x 2 600w hps in the second flower room, so if you start off with 3 x hps in the first room and 2x 600w in the second room for the first 30 days and then you start off the other side of the room
8 x 4ft Tubes t'5 tubes will keep the clones/young plants happy for the first 3 weeks ( take clones 10 days in 12/12 just before they start to flower)
you want a 4ft x 4ft room to use for potting up, sorting the cutting out and trimming the buds
the 10 days your not using the clone room, doubles up at a place to hang and dry the weed
jacksthc
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where did you get those numbers from ?
don't cost anything like this to set up a basic large grow
don't know where you live but i can rent a small warehouse for a £1000 mouth that would hold 50x 1000w lights and a veg rooms ect
48 1kw lights, I would pull about £90,000
Carolina Dream'n
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Fuck renting. Ain't nobody got time for that. Nothing I do is basic. It cost about 2 grand per light setup in all my setups. That includes everything. 40x50 warehouse was 65k, the having 400 amps of power put to it, concrete slab, permits and land. It was over 100000 for the building.
Also I'm talkin dollars, your talking euros.
So like I said. 100,000 for the equipment. 100,000 for the warehouse. 50,000 in grow room building, electricity, plumbing. And 4 months without income.
These numbers aren't pulled from my ass. This is what it actually took to do it.
jacksthc
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fellow moving that amount of weed, you may not even get 2 grand per light, think about what you are saying
what do you get 4,000 per kg, think about what you are saying
euros,dollars what ever, you need to make 3 time the outlay cost or your doing it for fun
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Carolina Dream'n
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Wow, you must be very ignorant. I spend 2 grand per light, not on each light. 2 grand includes the light, ac and dehumidifier. It's a way to budget your grow. (IE: I'm setting up 4 lights, should cost around 8 grand to do the whole 4 light room)
I pull 2-3 lbs per light at 2800 a lb. I get a 12 light harvest every two weeks.
You make NO sense at all. You make it seem like you only get one harvest. It's called an investment. Not a drug deal you make your money back over time. It took a 4 harvest to regain initial investment.
Carolina Dream'n
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@patrickkawi37
Any help trying to explain this? I'm I just wording it wrong?
@legallyflying wanna input what your warehouse cost?
Any help trying to explain this? I'm I just wording it wrong?
@legallyflying wanna input what your warehouse cost?
ttystikk
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THANK YOU!
I was just sitting here thinking I've spent that much on a home grow and it wasn't as big as it could have been, lol
Carolina Dream'n
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Get it how you live. All prices at MSRP.
52 solis tek ballast 350/unit 18200
52 solis tek de reflector 10400
48 solis tek de hps bulbs 5760
16 solis tek de 6k bulbs 1920
12 solis tek de 10k bulbs 1440
6 8 bulb t5. 1500
2 315w cmh 1200
8 can filter 150 3200
8 8 in can fan 2000
8 co2 burners 4000
3 co2 tanks 300
2 c02 regulators 200
8 36k mini split 24000
2 24k mini split 5000
1 12k mini split 1800
10 170 pint dehumidifier 13000
3 humidifier 900
60 wall mount fans 900
4 12 light controller 2000
1 4 light controller 100
8 humidity controllers 800
2 environment controllers 1200
4 fuzzy logic controllers 1400
4 125 gallon totes 600
2 50 gallon drums 200
6 sub pumps 480
1 trim pro rotor 1800
5 dry nets 200
1000' 3/4" tubing 250
100 3/4" T 100
50 3/4" ball valve 150
1600' drip line 160
800 drip stakes 200
48 quad flats 192
48 humidity domes 240
Grand total 105900 MSRP. Obviously got a discount. But then their was another 15 grand in shit I needed later....
52 solis tek ballast 350/unit 18200
52 solis tek de reflector 10400
48 solis tek de hps bulbs 5760
16 solis tek de 6k bulbs 1920
12 solis tek de 10k bulbs 1440
6 8 bulb t5. 1500
2 315w cmh 1200
8 can filter 150 3200
8 8 in can fan 2000
8 co2 burners 4000
3 co2 tanks 300
2 c02 regulators 200
8 36k mini split 24000
2 24k mini split 5000
1 12k mini split 1800
10 170 pint dehumidifier 13000
3 humidifier 900
60 wall mount fans 900
4 12 light controller 2000
1 4 light controller 100
8 humidity controllers 800
2 environment controllers 1200
4 fuzzy logic controllers 1400
4 125 gallon totes 600
2 50 gallon drums 200
6 sub pumps 480
1 trim pro rotor 1800
5 dry nets 200
1000' 3/4" tubing 250
100 3/4" T 100
50 3/4" ball valve 150
1600' drip line 160
800 drip stakes 200
48 quad flats 192
48 humidity domes 240
Grand total 105900 MSRP. Obviously got a discount. But then their was another 15 grand in shit I needed later....
jacksthc
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no i didn't go out and buy it on in one go, brought a lot of good quality lights second hand over time and rented units
only had to buy new filters, ducting etc
the rooms made out of installation sheets and timber, quick and cheap as its not legal.
the op whats to do a basic cheap grow to pull in some money, you sound like you are buying the best setup you can and it will last for years
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Carolina Dream'n
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No comment.
There is nothing cheap nor easy about settin up a PROPER grow room. It's a ton a mental and physical work. Anyone can throw up a wall and hang a light, but will that room last 5 years? Not if it isn't built properly and planned out for long term use. I pay extra to do it right the first time, because down time is money lost.
a mongo frog
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I can't believe some are having a hard time seeing this picture. 15 gavita lamps lamps sealed room in side that rental built out or lumber, Instalation and rock. 5 ton a/c. Rents about 3100 for 4000 square feet here. Everyone has an electrician in your circle. Power is already on site in the box. Run the wires your self and have electrician do all hook ups. I mean fuck your getting 15 gavitas for 6600 now a days. There giving them away basically .
a senile fungus
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You are one of the people I'm planning on PMing with my game plan once it's more concrete.
jacksthc
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yer the rooms will last, as I am a cabinet maker and build everything my self, I use solis tek ballast and they last for years
so the setup will last and I grow in dirt, replacing 30% of the soil with new each crop is a pain but I like growing in soil over hydro
hydro setup cost loads and you need the room environment perfect at all times. don't matter in soil
jacksthc
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yer your right, and the main point I was trying to put across is you don't have to spend a lot to get a large grow going.
you can spend endless money on setting up a grow room and it sounds great but do you need all the equipment ?
Carolina Dream'n
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Yea I do, I need all that equipment to pull my 3 lb per light. I could use cheaper shit and get 1.5 or 2.
Environment always matters. Soil or hydro.
jacksthc
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its a plant, as long as its in range the plants happy ( lights on 25-32c and light off 15-30c)
even the humidity could be 35 - 50 don't really make any difference as long as its not really low or really high
grow organic so i don't check the ph or ec as it goes up and down depending on how wet the soil is.
wow 50 oz's per light "No comment"
25oz's per light is good for a 1000w light