see4
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No. Obamacare is far removed from being a socialist concept. I strongly suggest you read up on Socialism, it's true definition, not what Faux Noose tells you.
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see4
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You're too stoned to carry on a rational conversation. Enjoy the rest of your day, but please stay off the internets.
see4
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Death is a certainty, no matter where you are or who you are.
Taxes and Obamacare are not at all certain and are not mandatory. You can choose not to pay either. You can also choose to renounce your citizenship and get the fuck out. You have those rights.
Your brain, along with your tiny penis, is tiny.
hyroot
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Nope. I'm very well versed in accounting and bankruptacy. When my dad was alive I worked for his firm for 10 years as a cpa until he got sick. He was a taxation attorney. Then I went back to school and changed my career.
Learn the difference between the various types of bankruptcy's There's different types. Only one negates all debts and that's a chapter 7 bankruptacy. Most business and corporations file a chapter 7 which restructures debt together to be paid in consolidated payments over time.
I'm just not going to argue with people that don't understand the differences between socialism and communism (Civil rights) and finances.
The_Herban_Legend
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One minor adjustment. I would like to add an asterisk (*) to taxes. Churches do not pay taxes ( which they should).
nitro harley
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Why would you think that the churches should pay tax's on a gift from people, that all ready paid tax's on the same money. It doesn't bother me one bit and I don't go to church.
nitro harley
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Bucky, good luck on not paying tax's and obama care. I don't have a choice but I can see how you would chose the life style that wouldn't.
ttystikk
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Yeah, ok. So what's your point? That just because it's called capitalism, you're okay with letting the sick go untreated in this country so a famously vanishingly few fatcats can pay even LESS taxes?!
Sorry, but I'll happily take a 'socialist' health care model over that ethically inhumane and economically bankrupt scenario. We even know it works, witness the rest of the civilized world.
PsicloneX
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He is very entertaining and the outcome doesn't matter.
The_Herban_Legend
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The money you pay in taxes goes many places. In addition to paying the salaries of government workers, your tax dollars also help to support common resources, such as police and firefighters. Tax money also helps to ensure the roads you travel on are safe and well-maintained.
Now, unless they don't use the roads, government services, or ever need to call 911, I say yes, TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THE CROOKS!
hyroot
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My point was we already lived under socialism for years. And look how well it's done. Everything is worst than before.
Read the posts prior.
Socialism you don't get a choice in your health care and it's more expensive that it was before. My sisters biils for visits for treating het cancer quadrupled with Obama care. She wasn't able to keep her insurance. It was better before.
By law if you go to the emergency room doctors have to treat you.
The socialist Obama care is nothing like free health care in Canada and the rest of the world. It's not free at all. It's a mess. It's more difficult to get treatment now.
UncleBuck
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goddamn you are stupid.
we do not have socialist health care.
other countries like england and japan do, and they pay less per capita than we do.
you are dumb. very very dumb.
The_Herban_Legend
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I would like to make a couple of points. Obama care is FREE for those who can't afford it. Second, didn't Bush expand medicare? Is that not socialism too? The blame goes to both political parties. Come stand in the center with me,
see4
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I pay my taxes, and I'm ok with Obamacare. You're the one crying about it. If you hate it so much, you have the option of renouncing your citizenship and getting the fuck out of my country. Or you have the option of hanging yourself. The beauty of all this, is that you have the right to do as you wish.
hyroot
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Its not free for anyone. They will bill you just like the emergency room before
Actually we are very far from being able to 'do as we wish. We are fed the BS that we can do as we wish but laws and social pressure rule what we can do.
hyroot
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Yes we do. If we didn't we wouldn't be required by law to sign up for Obama care or pay a fine. If it wasn't socialist health care we would have the option of choosing our own health care. Go outside your bubble.once in a while you might learn something dumb dumb
see4
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You talk in circles. You argued that bankruptcy does not absolve you of your debts, and then immediately profess that in fact half of your debts are absolved, thus completely countering your earlier point. Jesus man, you must be fucking with me, nobody is this fucking stupid. Well, maybe nitro, but he's only half human.
I am not debating your background in bankruptcy, I'm sure you are well versed. I am however pointing out that you contradicted yourself, and I notice you do it often. Take a nap bro, you need it.
The_Herban_Legend
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You have obviously never heard of medicaid, which was instituted way before Obama took office. You obviously don't understand the Affordable Care Act, so I will not waste my time on you any further.
see4
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What is stopping you from not paying your taxes? What is stopping you from not buying into Obamacare?
You have the freedom and choice to not pay your taxes. But know you will face consequences for your actions. But again, if you choose not to pay your taxes AND wish not to suffer the consequences, you are free to renounce your citizenship and move out. Nobody is stopping you.