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[Budley Doright]

I for one am glad I never applied for a medical licence in Canada years ago and just stayed under the radar. I knew that by registering it would just mean they knew who I was. Now look what they (goverment) are trying to do, but yup an injunction, hopefully this shit just goes away along with the sitting party. Be very careful about what you wish for lol. And WTF cures cancer you say hmmm ok.

Actually I should not have been so quick to dismiss the cancer thing .... Who knows I guess. All I know is most of my friends do smoke pot and have been for a really really long time lol, and yup their all dieing of cancer . Just sayin!

 

[ttystikk]

Actually I should not have been so quick to dismiss the cancer thing .... Who knows I guess. All I know is most of my friends do smoke pot and have been for a really really long time lol, and yup their all dieing of cancer . Just sayin!

Are they dying of lung or throat cancer? If so, do they smoke tobacco, too? Pot doesn't cause cancer, but it won't make up for bad habits like smoking cigarettes.

 

[Budley Doright]

Are they dying of lung or throat cancer? If so, do they smoke tobacco, too? Pot doesn't cause cancer, but it won't make up for bad habits like smoking cigarettes.

Not saying it causes or cures and yup lots if bad habits lol. It was the 70's lol. I for one was a recreational pharmacist. And actually the cancers seem to be all over the map but no lung so far. Just saying if it does "cure" (I believe thats was what was stated) then yes, a bit skepticle, but who am I. Fuck Im still wondering about big foot lol.

 

[ttystikk]

Not saying it causes or cures and yup lots if bad habits lol. It was the 70's lol. I for one was a recreational pharmacist. And actually the cancers seem to be all over the map but no lung so far. Just saying if it does "cure" (I believe thats was what was stated) then yes, a bit skepticle, but who am I. Fuck Im still wondering about big foot lol.

Lots of people swear by ingesting tinctures and extracts. That's a lot different than just smoking it and allows more of the plant's biochemistry to enter the body.

I'm no doctor, but the anecdotal evidence is mounting that marijuana has a big role to play in cancer prevention and treatment.

 

[Budley Doright]

Lots of people swear by ingesting tinctures and extracts. That's a lot different than just smoking it and allows more of the plant's biochemistry to enter the body.

I'm no doctor, but the anecdotal evidence is mounting that marijuana has a big role to play in cancer prevention and treatment.

Yes I know and read a few reports but is there an actual peer reviewed study that proves the benifits? Or is this all anecdotal "yup cured me stuff"? Anyways as I said, I'm skeptical is all. My biggest point (the one I should have stuck with lol) is what happened in Canada regarding the medical marijuana laws. Everyone who had a personal grow permit are now the target of the goverments ill advised new legislation. Oh and not to mention the new minumum sentencing laws that are more akin to a third world dictatorship. Vote Liberal!!! Get rid of the bastard thats in there now.

 

[ttystikk]

Yes I know and read a few reports but is there an actual peer reviewed study that proves the benifits? Or is this all anecdotal "yup cured me stuff"? Anyways as I said, I'm skeptical is all. My biggest point (the one I should have stuck with lol) is what happened in Canada regarding the medical marijuana laws. Everyone who had a personal grow permit are now the target of the goverments ill advised new legislation. Oh and not to mention the new minumum sentencing laws that are more akin to a third world dictatorship. Vote Liberal!!! Get rid of the bastard thats in there now.

Agreed, on all counts. Yet, apples didn't fall funny before Newton 'discovered' gravity.

The medical study argument has legs, but one should not forget that due to mmj's outlaw status, precious little medical research has had a chance to come to light regarding its potential benefits.

 

[Budley Doright]

Yes and thats unfortunate. Hopefully that will and probably is changing. Health Canada's official stance is "no known medical benefits".

 

[Com@nche]

I think everyone is trying to make the sell on dried product as medical so they can get high. Politically. I think tinctures are medical because of their lack in molds and metals. Molds and metals get you fucked up.
Recipe? Of course. I though this up the other day so feel free to improve it.
flower under uv light
throw buds in the freezer while still wet.
Cold water hash them while frozen
take hash into glycerin
keep non-needle syringes in freezer

Water for cold hash should be distilled and left in the freezerfridge prior to use.
This has to be done quickly and I feel is necessary in places where there is high mold in the air

Air in the glycerin lab should be kept dry and or air coditioned
grow room should have hepa intake.

Watch out for molds and metals.

 

[Budley Doright]

I think everyone is trying to make the sell on dried product as medical so they can get high. Politically. I think tinctures are medical because of their lack in molds and metals. Molds and metals get you fucked up.
Recipe? Of course. I though this up the other day so feel free to improve it.
flower under uv light
throw buds in the freezer while still wet.
Cold water hash them while frozen
take hash into glycerin
keep non-needle syringes in freezer

Water for cold hash should be distilled and left in the freezerfridge prior to use.
This has to be done quickly and I feel is necessary in places where there is high mold in the air

Air in the glycerin lab should be kept dry and or air coditioned
grow room should have hepa intake.

Watch out for molds and metals.

When you say metals do you mean something in the plant or on the surface? How are you able to tell if these are not present in your final product if in fact they are even in the plant? Canada just allowed edibles to be included as a medicinal product legally available from a licensed provider.

 

[Com@nche]

Stem, leaf and bud of the cannabis plant soak up metal ions like crazy. So much that hemp was used to cleanup chernobyl metals in the soil. The idea is that these ions will be left behind in the hash water. Even the best fertilizer and soil have metals, some fertilizers are metals. As for the molds the bad ones attack when bud is drying.. even in the best conditions. Nice, Good for canada.

 

[Com@nche]

These two may be present in this glycerin final product as a trace but there will be significantly less even if done non-proffesional. I'm not calling the dry product bad i smoke good stuff er day but it might be a significant risk for someone with aids or cancer

 

[fridayfishfry]

This freezer idea would be for vape pens to decarboxilate. I'm assuming we won't be dosing hot Decarb to sick people...?

 

[Com@nche]

Both ideas work, decarboxilate some of it pre (non-needle) syringe for oral. Just make sure people are not somehow accidentally squiring a thc "OD" directly into their mouths Just don't decarboxilate thc into a spray I've seen that mission impossible guy movie. He worked for that spray unit! Spray totally Ok for cbd.

 

[fridayfishfry]

Yea sure.... no units? Your talking about that inhaler looking thing. Yea thanks for pointing out the cbd

 

[bluto392]

There have been no human trials to see what cannabis' effect is on cancer.

When you say "X cures cancer" you better freaking know it cures cancer or you'll lose all your credibility.

The MMJ strategy has been outmaneuvered by the feds anyway.

 

[Budley Doright]

There have been no human trials to see what cannabis' effect is on cancer.

When you say "X cures cancer" you better freaking know it cures cancer or you'll lose all your credibility.

The MMJ strategy has been outmaneuvered by the feds anyway.

So your basically saying that the canna community that is saying it does cure/prevent cancer are causing the loss of credibility and perhaps doing way more harm then good? I kind of feel that way even though I have no clue what it does. I do know that some strains help with my back but very few. I do know that some help my sleep but some make sleeping difficult. I'm sure there is good as well as bad associated with the drug. Wouldn't it be nice to find out what it actually does and doesnt do, instead of bro science statements.

 

[fridayfishfry]

Feds have lost the battle to win the war. 'Tear drop'

 

[Budley Doright]

Still a long ways to go I think. Lots still sitting in fed pens for stupid busts. And if using my country (Canada)as a sample, things can change very quickly. Everyone here just seemed to let it happen, and honestly, no one that I hang with knew what was happening, i mention the new mandatory sentences and its, "no way, I dont believe you!". I think the US canna lobby is more vigilant and powerful though.

 

[cannadan]

though there are a lot of first hand experiences...posted on the different forums.....
when you consider "on the net alone" there is a bigger presence for sure.......
meaning the number of cancer survivors total could be considerably higher...
for those who have used RSO or equivalent oils...

 

[Budley Doright]

But totally unproven claims really. And its the net and its a free for all of info that again is unproven. I could say after smoking a joint I become more intelligent say and well I don't think thats the case lol.