Making a commercial grow operation indoor
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legallyflying
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The is a little part of me, ok, a big part... that can't wait to see all the little dipshit start ups get shredded to pieces by the realities of costs and market.
The thought that you can cobble together some bullshit grow, shine it up real nice, and then receive your rec permit from the OLCC is the biggest fucking misconception of all time.
Yeah... there won't be much competition for those rec licenses. Spend all your money now. Your WAY ahead of the game dude... you already started a thread on a forum?
Have you thought about where you want to buy your new beach house? FERRARI OR LAMBO... those are the decesions you need to be making.
The thought that you can cobble together some bullshit grow, shine it up real nice, and then receive your rec permit from the OLCC is the biggest fucking misconception of all time.
Yeah... there won't be much competition for those rec licenses. Spend all your money now. Your WAY ahead of the game dude... you already started a thread on a forum?
Have you thought about where you want to buy your new beach house? FERRARI OR LAMBO... those are the decesions you need to be making.
Tim Fox
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lol, exactly, to funny, the power players are already in position, they already have warehouse space, they probably already grow medically, and those people already have retail stores,
texasjack
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I do, haha
I'd build a pole barn in the back yard 30x30 on a cement slab I did the electrical 200 amp separate service another 1000.00 add water and drain would have run me another 6k.i use mine as my garage but it is 14 ft tall so I built a 12x12 loft 6 feet high. You could build that bigger and run a mother room and veg up top then flower at ground level.if shit went to hell you have a nice garage and with rent the way it is in 2 years you would save enough to have it paid for.
oregongrowpros
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I have secured a 13 acre place to build a shop (fully fenced with 8ft high fences all around), and then plan for outdoor also.
Build the shop for winter growing, and use the space around it for outdoor, during summer.
*I'm not some idiot, I have tons of business background (with degrees), and am putting together a COMPLETE plan
Build the shop for winter growing, and use the space around it for outdoor, during summer.
*I'm not some idiot, I have tons of business background (with degrees), and am putting together a COMPLETE plan
shonuff_305
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@Carolina Dream'n what should I be yielding out a 4x8 2k watt tent
lilroach
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When I read this thread's title I thought I'd finally get to read a thread where there would be no "fucking idiot" stuff......this one went 3 pages before that crap started.
Personally, I would go incrementally. Set up a $30K room....whatever size that is and reinvest after each harvest and expand from there. Having started several businesses, and that is what this is....a business...I can tell you that the worst thing you can do is take on too much too soon and be under-funded and make mistakes on a large scale vs. smaller "oh shit" moments.
I've got a friend that is starting his first commercial grow and it's so much different than a basement grow (which he does very well). He went from soil growing to hydro and that has been a disaster. Grow what you know at least at first.
You don't have to get the very best in lighting gear to start either. You can always upgrade as you expand.
Full disclosure: I know nothing about what it takes to hit the ground running with commercial grows. I defer to those that have. I DO know how to start a business and know how to NOT start one....and that's taking on too much too soon.
Personally, I would go incrementally. Set up a $30K room....whatever size that is and reinvest after each harvest and expand from there. Having started several businesses, and that is what this is....a business...I can tell you that the worst thing you can do is take on too much too soon and be under-funded and make mistakes on a large scale vs. smaller "oh shit" moments.
I've got a friend that is starting his first commercial grow and it's so much different than a basement grow (which he does very well). He went from soil growing to hydro and that has been a disaster. Grow what you know at least at first.
You don't have to get the very best in lighting gear to start either. You can always upgrade as you expand.
Full disclosure: I know nothing about what it takes to hit the ground running with commercial grows. I defer to those that have. I DO know how to start a business and know how to NOT start one....and that's taking on too much too soon.
Humanrob
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$30k would get you a set up that would allow you to do a "proof of concept" for investors, if nothing else. Set it up as a functional modular model, and that might serve as an impressive couple of pages in your business plan as you are looking for more funding. Good luck to you.
shonuff_305
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Ok what if you somewhere it's not legit and you just tryna stay under the radar and still pull a few pounds a harvest.
Tim Fox
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can be done, but a totally differant subject,,, you would need complete stealth, hard to do with power companies able to montor electric usage with smart meters now
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shonuff_305
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Exactly. That's why most of the growers in Florida or Georgia rent out a house and use it just for that purpose or just stay wit grow tents
coldrain
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Of all the good posts here this is perhaps the best of the bunch. Here in CA the dispensaries are always calling for new vendors, but the reality is that the vast majority of them get turned away. Why? Because the product they are trying to sell isn't as good as they think it is. If you put 100 indoor growers in a room I'll show you 5 who are really doing it right. The rest are about as good at growing weed as they are at everything else in life...... which is why they're growing weed instead of succeeding in a good job and making good money. Dispensaries have scores of vendor hopefuls descending on them on a daily basis and they have the luxury of being able to pick the best of the best.
Determine if there is a market for what you're growing BEFORE you invest a shitload of money into what ends up being a failed business venture. Start smaller and grow your square footage as real demand grows. Just because your friends buy what you're growing doesn't mean that dispensaries will want it. Your friends don't scientifically analyze what you grow and most of them won't notice if your plants got a little PM, or if they are smoking corpses of spider mites along with the weed. Dispensaries will laugh in your face though. Also, just because a dispensary accepted a particular strain last time doesn't mean that they will do so the next time around. Once the greasy masses find out that a strain is popular they will all jump on the bandwagon only to find out that the market is saturated and the buyers want something else. This is perhaps one of the most aggravating things about the business...... buyer attitudes. You not only need to be an amazing grower, but you need to have cutting edge genetics or you will be just another grower with a truck full of worthless Blue Bream that nobody wants. Right now the big thing around here is Sherbet. How long do you think it will be before dispensary buyers who are paying $50-60 for 1/8 are sick of it? 6 months? By the time most growers get their hands on clones of that strain the ship will have already sailed.
Tim Fox
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sorry but that is wrong information,, here in Oregon your not allowed to grow bud in your basement for the porpose of giving it to dispenseries,,, you will be breaking measure 91 law, your not allowed to just give away bud on any medical disp property, some were ticketed the other day for that, your also not allowed to grow more than 4 plants here, and you cannot chose to do it for commercial on your own,
the OLCC here controls it, and ther rules are lengthy, and they have not given any grow permits out yet
shanepdx
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You're missing at least one, if not two zeros in your initial investment. That is enough for a nice medical grow with 16 flower lights. The rec pond is much bigger than you obviously have any clue. Shit, hiring a consultant to get the applications for growing, extract, and edibles is north of 30k if you want to play in the show!
BobCajun
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I don't think you can get a license unless there's not already enough licensees in the area. My guess is that a lot more applications will go in than would be needed.
"(2) The Oregon Liquor Control Commission may refuse to license any applicant under the
provisions of sections 3 to 70 of this Act if the commission has reasonable ground to believe
any of the following to be true:
(a) That there are sufficient licensed premises in the locality set out in the application, or
that the granting of a license in the locality set out in the application is not demanded by
public interest or convenience. In determining whether there are sufficient licensed
premises in the locality, the commission shall consider seasonal fluctuations in the
population of the locality and shall ensure that there are adequate licensed premises to
serve the needs of the locality during the peak seasons."