Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

st0wandgrow

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I buy their products in stores around me in MI

@st0wandgrow I did 1tbsp of the Fish and 1tbsp of the Kelp in 4.5 gal and stuck the air stones in there til tomorrow. don't know if the O2 will aide in a nutrient feed like that with just the kelp and fish. should i add anything else or just go with that for those products in particular
Sounds good!
 

Joedank

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@stowandgrow you tried this recipe from lumperdawgz ....
The meal/cake can also be used to make an effective tea during those times of the grow/flower cycle where using the neem oil may not be the best option. 1/2 cup of neem seed meal/cake and 1/4 cup of kelp meal along with 1 tsp. of liquid silica into 5 gallons of water and then bubbled/brewed for 18 - 24 hours. This can be used to irrigate the plants as well as applying as a foliar spray...

sounds cool if needed. tomaters and squash are showing bug damage ... lol
 

st0wandgrow

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@stowandgrow you tried this recipe from lumperdawgz ....
The meal/cake can also be used to make an effective tea during those times of the grow/flower cycle where using the neem oil may not be the best option. 1/2 cup of neem seed meal/cake and 1/4 cup of kelp meal along with 1 tsp. of liquid silica into 5 gallons of water and then bubbled/brewed for 18 - 24 hours. This can be used to irrigate the plants as well as applying as a foliar spray...

sounds cool if needed. tomaters and squash are showing bug damage ... lol
I have not. Sounds good though!
 

Midwest Weedist

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I've been thinking about my soil mix and I've realized that I have relatively zilch for p and k in my soil. The only sources of it come from my kelp, molasses when I water with it once in a blue moon or after a grower-error drought, and whatever is in the different compost sources I've added over time.
I see a lot of people with deficiencies or trying to preemptively fight them in bloom, but I haven't ran into that at all, even with water only for half of bloom on occasions.
Is this because of how heavy handed I am with kelp teas and topdressing with vermicompost?
 

Mohican

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Dr Earth was the only one my local farm store had at the time. The worms love it!

It is about two years old and got soaked when my outdoor container filled with 3 inches of water. There was also a box of soil acidifier. I don't know how much of that leached into the kelp meal. The storage container reeked! Luckily all of the other products stored in that container were in plastic pouches.

Life's little surprises :wall:
 

Midwest Weedist

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Dr Earth was the only one my local farm store had at the time. The worms love it!

It is about two years old and got soaked when my outdoor container filled with 3 inches of water. There was also a box of soil acidifier. I don't know how much of that leached into the kelp meal. The storage container reeked! Luckily all of the other products stored in that container were in plastic pouches.

Life's little surprises :wall:
Life is lovely like that a lot of times.
One of my cats recently decided the 45 gallons of soil from my last run was more suitable as a bathroom than their multiple litter boxes. Even worse, it wasn't little kitty turds.. Smells like urea and ammonia..
 

ShLUbY

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just found out my local guy is carrying rice hulls! stoked about that. gonna do pumice/rice hull/bio char mix for aeration, heavier on the pumice since i read the rice hulls are eventually breaking down for some folks. thinking 20% pumice, and split the rest between the char and rice hulls.
 

Rrog

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Anyone looked at GrowStone? Like pumice but made from recycled glass. I'm going that way

Biochar absolutely for aeration. Leaf mold also
 

st0wandgrow

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Life is lovely like that a lot of times.
One of my cats recently decided the 45 gallons of soil from my last run was more suitable as a bathroom than their multiple litter boxes. Even worse, it wasn't little kitty turds.. Smells like urea and ammonia..
Haha! To be perfectly honest I can't stand cats. My wife and kids have been pestering me for years to get one, but I'm standing firm!

My ferocious dog would probably eat it anyway. :-)

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ShLUbY

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lol yeah cats are a PITA when it comes to grows. they love to chew the leaves, and i have one that loved to pee in the soil of a harvested pot if i left it laying around in the open (glad i never recycled soil then or i'd have been super pissed! no pun intended). Not to mention they'll just climb up my tents and all over and ruin stuff (that's why i have a door to the basement now!). yeah they're a pain! I love dogs and they only have to mess up something once to learn not to do it again lol.
 

ShLUbY

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I like the recycled aspect of it. Also, being glass, it won't ever break down
yeah im a sucker for green products that actually fulfill their purpose. my old lady says i dont throw anything away lol. i just hang on to it until i know that there is no use!

Hey is there anyone out there who has a product that is just as good as EM-1 for a lesser dollar? I was turned on to the EM-1 by John Kohler of growingyourgreens.com and i haven't bought it yet but i'm placing and order to amazon for a bunch of shit today and i'd like to hear some experience before i buy.

Honestly, he's what got me on the kick of growing cannabis organically (i thought i had been lol but boy was i wrong!) before i even knew that people were growing with living soil beds/containers indoors. here i thought i was ahead of the game as i was planning on switching the cannabis garden over to organic no-till! Then I found you all here at RIU ROLS thread!
 
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st0wandgrow

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yeah im a sucker for green products that actually fulfill their purpose. my old lady says i dont throw anything away lol. i just hang on to it until i know that there is no use!

Hey is there anyone out there who has a product that is just as good as EM-1 for a lesser dollar? I was turned on to the EM-1 by John Kohler of growingyourgreens.com and i haven't bought it yet but i'm placing and order to amazon for a bunch of shit today and i'd like to hear some experience before i buy.

Honestly, he's what got me on the kick of growing cannabis organically (i thought i had been lol but boy was i wrong!) before i even knew that people were growing with living soil beds/containers indoors. here i thought i was ahead of the game as i was planning on switching the cannabis garden over to organic no-till! Then I found you all here at RIU ROLS thread!
There's a thread in the organic section on making em-1. It's just a white rice rinse, add milk, skim the curds, then add molasses as a food stock for the lacto microbes.

Look through the archived threads and you'll find it. MjMama started the thread
 
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