GrowerGoneWild
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Well that doesnt exactly tell me what ratio you are using. I'm trying to see if your formula is flawed.
If anything GH powder Maxi Bloom works for coco. Alot simpler than mixing from multiple bottles.
I'm stumped guys. please help
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If anything GH powder Maxi Bloom works for coco. Alot simpler than mixing from multiple bottles.
simply_slide
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I want to thank everyone for your help @GrowerGoneWild @jacksthc @james murphy @Mr.Head and @budman111
I didn't think to look into over watering because I have never ran into this issue after the first week. However looking more into over-watering it does resemble my issuse.
So I'm going to let them dry out for however long until they look better and the problem looks to subside.
I wish I didn't already water today though
I didn't think to look into over watering because I have never ran into this issue after the first week. However looking more into over-watering it does resemble my issuse.
So I'm going to let them dry out for however long until they look better and the problem looks to subside.
I wish I didn't already water today though
james murphy
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which has nothing to do w ur problem....its drowning.
james murphy
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not ur nutes
simply_slide
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I follow there schedule. Currently 5ml bloom 4ml, micro, 1ml bloom with 2.5ml rapidstart.
GrowerGoneWild
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Thats a strange dose, the rapid start isn't necessary for a rooted cutting. In fact, look at your label, I do believe it has a high dose of molyebdium, or there is a warning about it.
You listed bloom twice. Did you mean grow?.
Anyways.. here some suggestions,
-Change from a plastic pot to a fabric pot, coco likes to be wet, and needs constant draining, the fabric pot will also preventing over watering.
-Get rid of the rapid start in your formula.. Rapid start is used mainly for starting cuttings. might save you some money.
-Change your formula.. Consider trying 6ml Micro and 9ml bloom, add cal mag, (per gallon) I am trying to get my nutrient calc going but i'm getting a wierd error after upgrading to Windows 10. I'll try to get a nutrient profile for you. Or if you like GH nutrients try Maxi Bloom... Ive used Maxi Bloom and its pretty damm good, just dont get carried away with it at the end of flower..
-Try a coco specific nutrient. I'm not sure why they work well but they do, I think they have engineered the problems out of coco in the formula.
simply_slide
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@GrowerGoneWild
-AWESOME info/reply. I did mean gro* . It sounds like your describing locus formula +calmag. I was considering going that route but decided against it because this has worked for me (following there schedule).
-I have been looking into making my own felt pots that are the relatively small do to space limitations and im hoping to make these micro moms. I will probably transplant into one after sexing. +rep!
-I looked into canna nutes but was steered away due to there high price and me being a broke as student. I will also look into Maxi Bloom, but I still have a shit load of trio nutes left.
-AWESOME info/reply. I did mean gro* . It sounds like your describing locus formula +calmag. I was considering going that route but decided against it because this has worked for me (following there schedule).
-I have been looking into making my own felt pots that are the relatively small do to space limitations and im hoping to make these micro moms. I will probably transplant into one after sexing. +rep!
-I looked into canna nutes but was steered away due to there high price and me being a broke as student. I will also look into Maxi Bloom, but I still have a shit load of trio nutes left.
nizmo
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Stop over complicating it.
Ditch the soil-less mix. Go and get a good quality soil and use that. Any half decent soil has pH buffers in it so you dont need to worry about pH which will automatically eliminate the majority of problems inexperienced growers run into (and then exacerbate in their misguided attempts to fix).
To grow excellent weed, all you need is soil and 2 bottles of fertilizer - one for veg and one for flower. Only fertilize when the plants appear to need it - straight water at all other times. And don't go adding bullshit supplements and crap to it. Less is more.
Ditch the soil-less mix. Go and get a good quality soil and use that. Any half decent soil has pH buffers in it so you dont need to worry about pH which will automatically eliminate the majority of problems inexperienced growers run into (and then exacerbate in their misguided attempts to fix).
To grow excellent weed, all you need is soil and 2 bottles of fertilizer - one for veg and one for flower. Only fertilize when the plants appear to need it - straight water at all other times. And don't go adding bullshit supplements and crap to it. Less is more.
reddan1981
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did you pre charge the coco (light dose of nutes), before planting? This helps with cation exchange. Coco holds on to salts which is why it was advised to water thoroughly till drain to wash out excess salts and exchange oxygen. Calmag and tap water? Use one or the other. Too much calcium will lock out phosphorus. The opposite is also true.
simply_slide
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Yeah coco was washed thrally and pre-charged with calmag, rapidstart and Superthrive.
reddan1981
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Ok so you know the crack. Why don't you try dropping the calmag out of your feed now, also stop using superthrive, if you're still using it. Don't forget to let your tap water stand for a day or bubble it for a few hours. Get yourself some silicon as your ph up add it to your water FIRST, this will improve ph stability and create a hardier plant.
SamsonsRiddle
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the overwatering issue is obvious, just let the coco dry out for a day or two for a week and see the difference.
the calimagic you are using actually seems a little high to me, should only need 1-2ml/gallon even with ro.
the calimagic you are using actually seems a little high to me, should only need 1-2ml/gallon even with ro.
Pirateslikestreasure
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What are you feeding it? Have you introduced it to seed weed extract, or iron or vitamins. For the first time. If you have then its caused a shock to the plant. Plant could have weak gems so Just put less and let the plant get used to it before adding normal amount.
I'm guessing it might be that
I'm guessing it might be that
Pirateslikestreasure
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The plant looks a bit to droopy, you must be over watering it or under watering it. Looks over watered in the pictures. There in pots they don't need a lot of water, because to much water cuts the air flow to the roots and that can cause root damage. Its kind of like having a stroke for your plant where half of it dies or all of it after root damage. Before watering feel the soil below, if it feels damp it doesn't need water. If its dry them water
james murphy
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they are fkn drowning..has nothin to do w nutes..cmon ppl
simply_slide
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Ok. So I'm taking pretty much everyone's advice. Im not going to be watering today and wait until the COCO drys out a little bit.
I'm going to cut calmag out and keep it under observation. I will also be bringing my ppms down on overall nutes.
So my hypothesis is that (this is my first grow in my new house) and with the water being harder I dont the calmag as much or at all... We will see.
I have grown this plant before and the only thing different is the house, literally changed nothing from the last grow.
I'm going to cut calmag out and keep it under observation. I will also be bringing my ppms down on overall nutes.
So my hypothesis is that (this is my first grow in my new house) and with the water being harder I dont the calmag as much or at all... We will see.
I have grown this plant before and the only thing different is the house, literally changed nothing from the last grow.
james murphy
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man ur really over thinking this..its a weed..not an orchid.lol. 1/4 nutes w s.t. wen they get light in weight..not limpin and they will b ready to transplant in a wk...then u will b all good...remember this is supposed to b fun..u listen to everyone and u will go insane..find wat works for u..read, apply, theres a million places for info..from true cannabis botanists. try figurin this shit out in the 60s..70s..80s...it was stories, assanine books and common sense..and look how far we got. good luck brotha
Dr. Who
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And nobody bothered to say that any correction made in coco will take at least 3-5 days to actually show an effect from the "correction"!!!
The only thing that actually "fix's" leaves is N problems...Everything else will have to be looked at in the new growth for the "fix" to show...
Doc's 2 cents
The only thing that actually "fix's" leaves is N problems...Everything else will have to be looked at in the new growth for the "fix" to show...
Doc's 2 cents
Jimdamick
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My man Doc shows his vast wisdom again. You will never see a reaction to PH in a few day's, more like 2 weeks. N seems to be another issue you have, as you are getting yellowing at the edges. Tap water, without adjustment, usually blows, so you have to PH it from the start and then you have a PPM issue also, as shown by the yellowing. In coco, PH is everything plus a mild nute solution which you should use a PPM meter to adjust your feed solution. Following the bottles instructions is not really the best, as PH will also affect that measurement. The plant appears to be young, so with adjustment you should be OK.
What I would do is test runoff and adjust as needed. I would bet you are in the 4's now, so I would flush the shit out of the coco using something like Clearex, test the run off again and adjust further. After the flush, you probably will be still low, so to get it into your target zone of 6.0 (foolproof) bring you PH up by one, so if you want 6.0 and you read 5.0, bring your solution to 7.0 to adjust back down to 6. Get it? You will be fine with a little fine tuning, so don't sweat it. You might want to do what I do with fucked up leaves, cut them off and forget about it. It works for me.
What I would do is test runoff and adjust as needed. I would bet you are in the 4's now, so I would flush the shit out of the coco using something like Clearex, test the run off again and adjust further. After the flush, you probably will be still low, so to get it into your target zone of 6.0 (foolproof) bring you PH up by one, so if you want 6.0 and you read 5.0, bring your solution to 7.0 to adjust back down to 6. Get it? You will be fine with a little fine tuning, so don't sweat it. You might want to do what I do with fucked up leaves, cut them off and forget about it. It works for me.
Jimdamick
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A fucking weed huh? No, it is not a weed, it is actually a pretty sensitive plant, that reacts to temperature, stress, nutrition, soil types, humidity, insects, molds and funguses pretty quickly, so for a plant that actually completes it's life cycle in 3 to 4 months, if you treat it like a weed, that's what you will be smoking, shit weed.