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Smidge34

Smidge34

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Joedank said:
testing of terpinoids shows this to be untrue . my lungs also show this to be untrue .
the greatest healing benifit may lie in degraded terps but it has yet to be proven ....
besides that guys is speaking to sativia dom cultivars . the hybrids i grow need less time and "fluff out " making them hard to smoke in the cold of december . i have tried it on bubba kush and haze's none of them benifited IMO/IME from longer than averge (50%amber ) some were much stoneyer at earlier times (5-10%amber ) as testing indicates ....
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Ditto. I have left buds on several plants for weeks after harvest to sample. They were harsh to the taste and knocked you straight the fuck out, almost narcotic. The buds also lost density from their peak and were definitely more airy. It's nice having fast acting sleep meds I guess, but then I smoke so much I don't usually have sleep issues. The opposite actually.

Now don't get me wrong, I like a ripe bud with big, fat calyxes swollen up fat with darkened and withering, receding pistils.
 
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Cuttdogg7

Cuttdogg7

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MrRare said:
I wanted to poll this group on how long you let the plants ripen before harvest. There is the standard sentiment of 8 wks for Indica and 12 wks for Sativa. I have historicly observed the tricomes under a 30X scope and harvested when the majority,85% had turned to amber. There are other that suggest waiting much longer. Some long time growers suggest 15-20 wks depending on the strain. There is on person on this forum who I have been following and he appears very experienced he contens the following and I quote"Indeed brother. It takes longer to go through all stages, however 15-16 weeks is minimum for hybrids. As the tree ripens and goes through chemical changes, the effects will change. However, you are getting a more ripe fruit and the cannabinoids will benefit more than THC. If you want more of the mind expansion, ripen on past that until the tree produces red/gold trichomes and those cannabinoids are super healers together. 20+ weeks for that in most hybrids and the tree is beautiful around that stage. Cutting early has destroyed true healings and knowledge of the tree, but most don't know better. Instance, Acapulco gold is not gold " I grow pure ones," they were gold back in the day for the farmers would cut them in Dec,Jan, and even February. This allowed the tree to ripen cannabinoids and change color and then they dried and decarbed in the sun, which made it gold. Acapulco back then was easily recognized because of this and plus it expanded the mind more than any other. Now Mexicans like most up here, cut early to supply demand. Now all the bud is pretty much green and gives paranoia and only the experienced eye back home in the southeast can recognize and find seeds from the old classics. When you do, you grow them yourself under hid and let them ripen 20+ weeks and its too much for most to handle. Pure Mexicans are the strongest trees in the world period, its just one in a thousand or more grows them properly. I've lived out west now 18 months and love helping people to know truth. I've yet to have a joint clog and I've smoked what's supposed to be the best. Not even. I will be glad god willing to share a true ripened sativa experience with people out here soon and good genetics. Remember also, if going for further ripening, feed well and molasses and sugar are your friends. When the tree starts really building red trichomes and changes color for second stage it will double almost the weight and bud. You will also get it super potent and oils and edibles are super healers then. Its worth it. Better meds, more of it and less drying and curing the further you ripen. Take it to the very end and it can be used right away, no drying or curing. One love, rev.thenatural"
What do you all think about the longer ripening period?
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Dude you need to read
(Trichomes & Harvesting).
Right here at roll it up or any other article about proper harvesting times and properly reading trichomes. These articles are based on facts.
But if you likes smoking bunk weed that just makes you fall asleep, keep doing what you're doing.
 
readysetawesome

readysetawesome

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"pretty much green and gives paranoia" - some of the strongest, most uplifting smoke I've had has been described by others as paranoia-inducing. that is like the most subjective statement I've seen today.

both of the 30+ yr old marijuana cultivation books I have are unequivocal and correspond with my direct experience: pull your buds before more than 50% of the trichromes go cloudy, with very few exceptions. If you wait longer the buds may "seem" more rich in their smell and appearance, and may cure easier. But it has less THC by weight, you can be certain of it. The best smoke out of my garden is that which was picked with still plenty of clear trichromes and then carefully dried and cured to rid the buds of any "green" smells or flavors (always possible to get rid of this, with enough time and moisture for bacteria to do their work in the curing jar).
 
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MrRare

MrRare

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Cuttdogg7 said:
Dude you need to read
(Trichomes & Harvesting).
Right here at roll it up or any other article about proper harvesting times and properly reading trichomes. These articles are based on facts.
But if you likes smoking bunk weed that just makes you fall asleep, keep doing what you're doing.
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Cuttdogg:
I am a voracious reader and have read the article you are suggesting. The fact is there are conflicting views and writings in several forums I follow. The writing is good , but I tend to rely on personal experience and the experiences of the long term growers" old timers ".
There is much more to this plant than just the THC and I am currently growing specifically for an epileptic patient and looking to maximize CBD.
Thanks!
 
Jozikins

Jozikins

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Marcshaun said:
I'm scoping the calyxs basically the whole bud itself
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Don't worry so much about the trichomes. They will develop at very different stages as compared to indoor. Just wait until the plants really put on their fall colors. Yellow and purple leaves, leaves falling off, slight purple hues to some of your strains. Wait until they are showing evidence that they aren't metabolizing anymore.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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MrRare said:
Cuttdogg:
I am a voracious reader and have read the article you are suggesting. The fact is there are conflicting views and writings in several forums I follow. The writing is good , but I tend to rely on personal experience and the experiences of the long term growers" old timers ".
There is much more to this plant than just the THC and I am currently growing specifically for an epileptic patient and looking to maximize CBD.
Thanks!
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@stowandgrow can you help this guy out you seem to know your shizzle in this dept . as far as havest windows and oil production for seziure meds... respect homie you taught me a bunch already..
 
Jozikins

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BcDigger said:
:)I was able to get a few better shots today. First time All organic and I'm not looking back. White grizzly, Seawarp, Swamp Skunk, Purple pineberry. Also got a cool evening shot of seawarp without flash.View attachment 3487247View attachment 3487249 View attachment 3487252 View attachment 3487253 View attachment 3487254
Keep up the excellent gardening everyone! You all maintain a high standard to live up to:clap::clap::clap: It is a great motivation to grow better.
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Don't ever lose that White Grizzly! Some lady was moving that shit out in the Palm Springs area for 3600/lb to one of the premier dispensaries out there. It was indoor of course. But even I myself ended up buying some, and I never ever ever buy weed. I have too much of my own good weed.
 
BcDigger

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Jozikins said:
Don't ever lose that White Grizzly! Some lady was moving that shit out in the Palm Springs area for 3600/lb to one of the premier dispensaries out there. It was indoor of course. But even I myself ended up buying some, and I never ever ever buy weed. I have too much of my own good weed.
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Thanks I really like it. this is my third season running it. Huge yeild massive buds. Not the most potent but very up euphoric heady. Do you find it to be a creeper?
 
Jozikins

Jozikins

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BcDigger said:
Thanks I really like it. this is my third season running it. Huge yeild massive buds. Not the most potent but very up euphoric heady. Do you find it to be a creeper?
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Major creeper. I agree, it isn't the most potent, but it was by far the best looking, frostiest, white bud on the shelf. Smelt like coffee and kush.
 
BcDigger

BcDigger

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Jozikins said:
Major creeper. I agree, it isn't the most potent, but it was by far the best looking, frostiest, white bud on the shelf. Smelt like coffee and kush.
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Nice good to know our good ol'canadian outdoor strains are making good impressions in big markets!bongsmilie I can never pin down a smell to most of it other than it just smells old school. One pheno carries a distinct lemon scent cured. Very peppery flavor especially in the vaporizer
 
Rhizosphere

Rhizosphere

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MrRare said:
I wanted to poll this group on how long you let the plants ripen before harvest. There is the standard sentiment of 8 wks for Indica and 12 wks for Sativa. I have historicly observed the tricomes under a 30X scope and harvested when the majority,85% had turned to amber. There are other that suggest waiting much longer. Some long time growers suggest 15-20 wks depending on the strain. There is on person on this forum who I have been following and he appears very experienced he contens the following and I quote"Indeed brother. It takes longer to go through all stages, however 15-16 weeks is minimum for hybrids. As the tree ripens and goes through chemical changes, the effects will change. However, you are getting a more ripe fruit and the cannabinoids will benefit more than THC. If you want more of the mind expansion, ripen on past that until the tree produces red/gold trichomes and those cannabinoids are super healers together. 20+ weeks for that in most hybrids and the tree is beautiful around that stage. Cutting early has destroyed true healings and knowledge of the tree, but most don't know better. Instance, Acapulco gold is not gold " I grow pure ones," they were gold back in the day for the farmers would cut them in Dec,Jan, and even February. This allowed the tree to ripen cannabinoids and change color and then they dried and decarbed in the sun, which made it gold. Acapulco back then was easily recognized because of this and plus it expanded the mind more than any other. Now Mexicans like most up here, cut early to supply demand. Now all the bud is pretty much green and gives paranoia and only the experienced eye back home in the southeast can recognize and find seeds from the old classics. When you do, you grow them yourself under hid and let them ripen 20+ weeks and its too much for most to handle. Pure Mexicans are the strongest trees in the world period, its just one in a thousand or more grows them properly. I've lived out west now 18 months and love helping people to know truth. I've yet to have a joint clog and I've smoked what's supposed to be the best. Not even. I will be glad god willing to share a true ripened sativa experience with people out here soon and good genetics. Remember also, if going for further ripening, feed well and molasses and sugar are your friends. When the tree starts really building red trichomes and changes color for second stage it will double almost the weight and bud. You will also get it super potent and oils and edibles are super healers then. Its worth it. Better meds, more of it and less drying and curing the further you ripen. Take it to the very end and it can be used right away, no drying or curing. One love, rev.thenatural"
What do you all think about the longer ripening period?
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when you think there done wait one week
 
Rhizosphere

Rhizosphere

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MrRare said:
Cuttdogg:
I am a voracious reader and have read the article you are suggesting. The fact is there are conflicting views and writings in several forums I follow. The writing is good , but I tend to rely on personal experience and the experiences of the long term growers" old timers ".
There is much more to this plant than just the THC and I am currently growing specifically for an epileptic patient and looking to maximize CBD.
Thanks!
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im gonna have to agree with mr. rare. i have only been growing cannabis for a short time compared to my father uncle and grand father with 70 years of combined experience . i like to pick around 40 to 50 percent amber trics and when i tall them that they just laugh at me. they say why are you using a magnifying glass the plant will let you know when its done. my uncle is an amazing old school organic grower and tough me how to grow. i scope his plants some times he pics anywhere from 30 to 80 percent it seems like depending on the strain. his cannabis is way more euphoric and stoney then any indoor ive smoked anywhere ill tall you that. he says they just stop making forward progress and after that its just going to go down hill i know hes had some pure Thai plants go like 16 17 weeks one time and a pure Mexican sativa that grow just like a damn Christmas tree that was like 17 feet tall and had 7 pounds on it that went like 16 17 weeks too
 
Joedank

Joedank

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Rhizosphere said:
im gonna have to agree with mr. rare. i have only been growing cannabis for a short time compared to my father uncle and grand father with 70 years of combined experience . i like to pick around 40 to 50 percent amber trics and when i tall them that they just laugh at me. they say why are you using a magnifying glass the plant will let you know when its done. my uncle is an amazing old school organic grower and tough me how to grow. i scope his plants some times he pics anywhere from 30 to 80 percent it seems like depending on the strain. his cannabis is way more euphoric and stoney then any indoor ive smoked anywhere ill tall you that. he says they just stop making forward progress and after that its just going to go down hill i know hes had some pure Thai plants go like 16 17 weeks one time and a pure Mexican sativa that grow just like a damn Christmas tree that was like 17 feet tall and had 7 pounds on it that went like 16 17 weeks too
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if you are "looking to maximize cbd " growing a plant out "later" and "longer" . is not the way get it as lab tests indicate . it is science not old scool wisdom .
you also proved the other side of the point as well 30-80% amber is the sweet spot for flavor and sleepy terps in my opinion but 1% amber is the sweet spot for cbd and thc as testing indicates ...
 
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