a mongo frog
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Think he told you it was all about genetics.
Pound Per Plant
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ttystikk
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Quite right! Takes me four and a half...
Darth Vapour
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You Dr Pecker i pull 1180 dry grams per 1000 watt i do not have time stamp but i think mongo would back me on that from my scrog pictures and old journals that are long gone and that is small plant 2 - 4 plants 5 week veg 6 week flowering
ttystikk
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Fuk Ya, the phenomenon is so predictable I built a setup around it;
This grapefruit is six feet tall, over five feet wide, should give about twenty zips... under 24W/ft².
Budley Doright
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Kind of like my White Russian that triples in stretch lol. First time I grew it I ran out of room and had to start a major cropping regime lol. Still
You do have to know what your doing to achieve optimum results and yes like I said luck, thats been my biggest help I think, luck lol.
Greenhouse;save
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And that is how it's done.....well put in outher words.....EVERY PLANT STARTS AS A.....SEED....YES...
skunkd0c
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This is not a competition as far as i am aware
i apologize if i have ruffled the feathers of some growers
i am posting information of my experiences , take them as you wish
requests for time stamps are retarded, anyone can place any date and time on any picture after the event
time stamps do not add any authenticity imo
i guess i could start buying newspapers and take some pictures with them lol
the plant vegged for 3 weeks on a vegetative photo period total time under HID from germination
at this time the plants are 6 inch to 1ft depending on strain/vigour
seed plants flowered at this stage the yield will vary hugely from 2-16 oz in my experience
it all depends on the stretch and the plants ability to form colas on most of its branches
it is not an uncommon trait with skunk crosses to produce 10-12 oz or so per plant with 3 weeks veg time 1lb is not as common
when i flip at 3 weeks the plants show signs of flower 1 week to 10 days later than if they have been vegged for 5 weeks or until preflowers are visible
i have found overall this has little effect on the total flower time ,i am pulling plants down with 3 weeks veg at the same time as i would with 5 weeks veg
the yield is lower with 3 weeks veg plants are mostly smaller but they finish just as fast
plants flowered after 3 weeks veg catch up by week 6 of 12/12 and show the same level of flowering maturity as a plant would show if it had vegged for 5 weeks
8-9 weeks 12/12 is still enough to fully mature most of them
i grew lavender from seed along side the blue cheese, it took ages to go into flower but this one finished in a total of 8 weeks, 12/12
the lavender plants were big and bushy but the yield was poor only 11 oz from 3 plants, they did not build colas
the largest nugget was about 3 inches long
the plants will continue to "grow" on a 12 hour photoperiod
those that are vigorous will build many branches during this stage they can grow from 8 inch to 4 ft tall in a few weeks
this stage of growth is the fastest period of growing during an indoor cannabis plants life
plants grown hydroponically will also in my experience grow larger, produce more branching
its quite hard to keep them small sometimes
this thread as far as i am aware is not about clones v seed plants
it mildly amuses me that anyone could interpret what i have written to be suggesting that "seeds" should be used
in place of clones for a continuous commercial production of uniform cannabis plants ready on a deadline
the initial question was asked, what is the quickest way or how quick to get 1lb from 1 plant
to which i answered 3 weeks veg 8-9 weeks flower from seed (blue cheese)
the op has moved on since then, he wants six 1lb plants
of course to produce yields consistently clones are required because they are predictable and uniform
i did not feel this was something that needed pointing out, since it was not the issue anyway to begin with
clones will not stretch as much as seeds, therefore they will need more veg in my experience
"remember a sativa dom plant will do most of its growing during 12/12"
the 3 weeks veg concept you are finding hard to grasp is because you're not
giving the correct necessary significance to the "stretch"
to you its all about "veg time" (16+ hour photo period)
in the case of seeds which express strong sativa vigour its not so much about veg time any more, its about the stretch/growth spurt that the plant will have during the first 4 weeks or so of 12/12
i hope this helps you understand it, i do not know how else i can explain it
with 5 weeks veg from clone 1lb is easy with the right genetics
people that have only grown little indica plants may find it hard to comprehend that some sativa dom genetics grow like trees even with only 3 weeks of veg
big bud is not the only large growing sativa dom around lol
with clones they need to be 2ft or so in veg to stretch to the size of a 1lb plant in my garden
with seeds some can produce 1lb from a plant that is less than 1ft tall and only 3 weeks old when it is flipped
peace
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skunkd0c
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Nice setup mate,. i believe you, without time stamps or forum friendz backing you up LOL
why would competent growers bother/ need to lie anyway
results speak for themselves
Sativied
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Like humans, maturity of a plant is not just a result from chronological age, i.e. the amount of time since germination. It's about how they are raised, which is largely influenced by the environment and geographical differences.
Like humans, some plants "mature" more in the first few stages of their life, while they still grow, from which they benefit the rest of their life.
Unlike humans (animals) plants don't continuously replace all cells and aging actually happens quite differently. But what matters in this context is the ontogenetic aging process. That includes embryogenetic phase, seedling phase, transition to maturity (preflowers, alternating) and fully flowering (no veg). It's a well known fact that the veg rate of an efficient hydro setup is exceptional. I can imagine it's tough for some people messing with dirt to understand that is not just a matter of growing faster in 'size'.
Silly yet typical for RIU to remain in denial after seeing such results...
Like humans, some plants "mature" more in the first few stages of their life, while they still grow, from which they benefit the rest of their life.
Unlike humans (animals) plants don't continuously replace all cells and aging actually happens quite differently. But what matters in this context is the ontogenetic aging process. That includes embryogenetic phase, seedling phase, transition to maturity (preflowers, alternating) and fully flowering (no veg). It's a well known fact that the veg rate of an efficient hydro setup is exceptional. I can imagine it's tough for some people messing with dirt to understand that is not just a matter of growing faster in 'size'.
Silly yet typical for RIU to remain in denial after seeing such results...
Yes, not going to get those results with an afghani like OG Kush or one of the many other popular pollen chucks based on it and afghanica bag seed. Those growers or their customers will get tired of it sooner or later and start growing some quality strain like amnesia haze or SSH and end up complaining Gavitas need too much height
skunkd0c
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I did notice a trend forming, those who seemed dumbfounded by my results are predominately, dirt users
i know not all indoor dirt users are (ignorant) to hydroponics and genetics
most of the outdoor dirt users i have encountered seem to be a pleasant bunch, some of them grow magnificent trees that i could only dream of in the UK
some of the indoor dirt growers grow very nice plants too albeit they will grow slower and yield less in the same space/timeframe/power used
but who's counting, its not a competition, as long as we are personally satisfied with our own grows no need to feel inadequate imo, or cry shit wolf
peace
a senile fungus
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I have a lot to learn...
Budley Doright
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Newspapers or it didnt happen.....
skunkd0c
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Yo bro, would you be so kind as to log into your OG account (BagWell) and leave me a little message, call me a cunt if you like
i do not trust time stampswhile you're at it can you do the same with your ICmag account (phlilty) , people keep saying you're a picture thief, i think they are just pulling my leg
i told them they must be mistaken
Btw do you still think the best method of germinating seeds is "toilet paper" ?
rocknratm
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so yes hydro does finish quicker (from what Ive heard) but you wont get the terpine production and general taste that you do in soil (imho).
Nothing tastes better than an all organic soil grow. (again imho)
But shit what do I know...
peace everyone!
skunkd0c
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Taste / smell / quality of high (these things are subjective and can't be measured they are down to individual preferences of people
for example a plant could be more potent, but not all people would see this a better/more desirable
Yield/time/effectiveness of the grow/potency (cannabinoid content) these things can be directly measured so do not require "opinions" or individual preferences scientists can work out which ones are the winners for us, and as far as i know hydro wins out in these fields perhaps not so much with potency, but certainly with time/space/yield/effectiveness of the grow
i am happy to believe that someone who has grown both hydroponically and with soil may prefer the taste of soil/organic its subjective to the individual grower
this does not mean all people will prefer organic or notice any difference, each to their own
personally i can't tell the difference in taste between organic and non organic bananas or weed
some people say they prefer hydro
if its grown to a good standard it should taste pretty much the same whatever method was used ... medical quality !
i have been wondering why do so many folk that say they are medical growers in the USA have so much pet hair on their buds, is this allowed ?
what about allergy sufferers do they mind consuming weed contaminated with hair?
i try to keep the pet hair to the minimum its not an easy task, but then again i am not a medical grower so its not so important
spidermites ! i bet some folk think weed naturally smells like neem oil
peace
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Budley Doright
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I respectfully disagree lol.
Darth Vapour
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Yup thats me BW on OG so whats your point lol used to be Dr Fever on RIU maybe do a search there haha as well hahah again so whats your point as for ICM was there for years as well ... Dude i been around long time before the legaliztion of MJ here its still illegal but now since the legalization of MJ we got clowns like you around to chicken shit to grow when it was illegal but now that it is your the GURU lolYo bro, would you be so kind as to log into your OG account (BagWell) and leave me a little message, call me a cunt if you like
while you're at it can you do the same with your ICmag account (phlilty) , people keep saying you're a picture thief, i think they are just pulling my leg
i told them they must be mistaken
Btw do you still think the best method of germinating seeds is "toilet paper" ?
and Sure toilet paper method works great, see people tend to think that roots gets bound up and you end up ripping the delicate roots when transplanting ,,,, see the trick is cut around plant the hole dam thing toilet paper an all your laughing them right ??? no different then plugs or any other starter medium