Does growing autos make any sense?

[Gbuddy]

Dunno cant see how it makes sense to grow a auto strain when it needs 3-5weeks of veg lol

most breeders descriptions ive read say : plant grows three or four sets of leafes and then starts to flower.

I have to call bullshit.

Everything I read here on riu tells me it also takes 4 weeks veg at least before autos start to flower for most members..... so it was not just me having bad luck or something....

I grew 3 different auto strains in this season just for experimenting purpose.
60 day wonder , lowrider 1, brutalis automatic.
not one started flowering after plant grew three or four leaflets.
lowrider took for ever ended up 2feet (not realy low eh?) the brutalis was qualitywise the best but I had 1 female 1 hermie 1 male ended 2.5 feet with much space between nodes. The 60 day wonder took like 90 days and was the first finishing but a dwarf like 0.5ft. Not one yielded more than 10g if dry bud (popcorn) and
that was outdoor started end of may beg. June so not a bad time for autos outdoor. They grew in bigass containers like 10 gal.

I crossed the lowrider x brutalis and popped some indoors a few days ago. If those disapoint the same way I am done with autos.
I see no reason to grow em again except filling empty vegspaces.

I can run most photos 12-12 from seed and end up with a one foot plant with a fat mainbud.
I have only seen popcorn in the autos I grew.

No offense to all you autolovers but sorry I cant see why to go auto yet.

every big bud or incredible bulk even most freebie photos will outperform any auto I grew at straight 12-12 from seed or one week of veg in yield, time to finish, and energy consumption.

I have 22 years of growing under my belt.... always did photos....that was the first time I did autos as for experimenting as I stated above ....but I guess thats all for me in regards to autoflowering strains in my garden.

 

[tekdc911]

no offense but you started with some shitty strains to use to judge auto's as a whole .... 10 grams ? should prolly study up on auto's need's ...they are a little different then photo's and pretty easy to stunt

 

[Gbuddy]

Yeah not the best strains definitly....
but large rootspace....propper ferts...plenty of sunlight for the whole day.

The only reason I started experimenting for was the argument that autos start flowering after producing three to four leafelets. But even that wasnt true.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Obviously there are like dozens, maybe 100s of different auto strains to choose from. If people didn't choose them, there wouldn't be so many. I personally like them the best. Because they are Hardy and easy. But, I honestly don't think they would be perfect for a commercial grow. I've done photo and went 12/12 from like 2 weeks. That's cool too. Different strokes different folks. Choices.

 

[TaNg PeNg]

I think if you can dial a good set up in Autos can work a treat, in my 1.2x1.2m I start and harvest 2 plants every 40 days. This is the beauty of autos,you can veg and bloom in the same room.

Here's what I have on at the moment, 2 Auto Blueberry close to harvest and a StarRyder and Auto Frisian Dew in veg.

I've just started a thread for the StarRyder and Frisian Dew.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/starryder-and-auto-frisian-dew.881711/

 

[Gbuddy]

I think if you can dial a good set up in Autos can work a treat, in my 1.2x1.2m I start and harvest 2 plants every 40 days. This is the beauty of autos,you can veg and bloom in the same room.

Here's what I have on at the moment, 2 Auto Blueberry close to harvest and a StarRyder and Auto Frisian Dew in veg.

I've just started a thread for the StarRyder and Frisian Dew.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/starryder-and-auto-frisian-dew.881711/

Thats a good argument!
And your plants look way better than mine did.
how long do you run your lights on/off?
Dunno what I fucked up.....

 

[TaNg PeNg]

I use a 20/4 light schedule but have tried 16/8 all the way up to 24/0.

 

[Gbuddy]

Obviously there are like dozens, maybe 100s of different auto strains to choose from. If people didn't choose them, there wouldn't be so many. I personally like them the best. Because they are Hardy and easy. But, I honestly don't think they would be perfect for a commercial grow. I've done photo and went 12/12 from like 2 weeks. That's cool too. Different strokes different folks. Choices.

Agreed.
seems like something that is working well for single cab grows.
My photos grew into trees outdoors in the same time. So maybe not the best choice for outdoors.
but you will agree with me that there are also 100's of photos with a nice name and description to it, but in reality they are bs and not worth growing but people buy them because of name and description.
Sad but true imo.

 

[tazz&indy]

In the summer I always grow my auto's on my balcony or deck, I usually average 2 oz per plant and I have time for 3 grows each summer. By now, I have some select seeds. This winter however I will try a grow tent.

 

[Gbuddy]

I use a 20/4 light schedule but have tried 16/8 all the way up to 24/0.

Thats one of my points ...autos need way more lighthours than a photo strain would need.
dont take it as an offense.
its just a fact.
but to each his own.
as long as they give you fun and smoke its all good.

I will now use my cross to fill empty space in my vegbox running lights on 24-0. Do you think its worth it with this lightshedule?

 

[TaNg PeNg]

Thats one of my points ...autos need way more lighthours than a photo strain would need.
dont take it as an offense.
its just a fact.
but to each his own.
as long as they give you fun and smoke its all good.

I will now use my cross to fill empty space in my vegbox running lights on 24-0. Do you think its worth it with this lightshedule?

There's not a lot in it you know bro,on average an auto takes 75 days so needs 1500 light hrs at 20/4 where a 100 day photo vegged at 20/4 for 30 days then 70 days at 12/12 uses 1440 light hrs. I do love photos too but the majority I grow are Autoflowes.

 

[Gbuddy]

Ye

There's not a lot in it you know bro,on average an auto takes 75 days so needs 1500 light hrs at 20/4 where a 100 day photo vegged at 20/4 for 30 days then 70 days at 12/12 uses 1440 light hrs. I do love photos too but the majority I grow are Autoflowes.

yes I dont know much about autos but I believed they will just work fine outdoors in a natural enviroment. But they didnt. And it was three different strains. Thats why I am disapointed.

Edit
count in a vegtime of only 7 days veg for a photo used in a small space and the difference in lighthours is way more visible.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Try some Dinafem. They are amazing. You can't just plant 3 auto seeds out of probably 100s of strains and then just say all autos are not good. Hey, they might not be right for you. Ok. So just grow photos. Who cares. You're happy we're all happy.

 

[Gbuddy]

Try some Dinafem. They are amazing. You can't just plant 3 auto seeds out of probably 100s of strains and then just say all autos are not good. Hey, they might not be right for you. Ok. So just grow photos. Who cares. You're happy we're all happy.

It wasnt 3 seeds it was 3 strains.
but I agree they just seem not to be right for me.

As I said above I will try to fill some space in my vegbox 24-0 and see what I end up with.
using my cross and the few 60day wonder I still have.
but I must say I am not very optimistic about it

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Haha. You should look around the site. I've seen journals for autos with pics that were just amazing. I think one dude got over a pound from one. But it was rogue. Think he had to go to 12/12 to get it to flower. I've tried several strains. But think I am just gonna stick with Dinafem from now on. It's all good though. I've done autos 12/12. Works fine. Just grow whatever you want too. Have fun with it.

 

[Gbuddy]

You can't just plant 3 auto seeds out of probably 100s of strains and then just say all autos are not good.

That is absolutly not what I was saying.
read my first post again.

I say
- they dont start flowering after the plant produced the first 3-4 sets of leafes.
- they dont need only 60 days from seed to harvest.
-they need more lighthours than a photo strain that goes straight 12-12 or one week of veg.

And that is right.

 

[Gbuddy]

Haha. You should look around the site. I've seen journals for autos with pics that were just amazing. I think one dude got over a pound from one. But it was rogue. Think he had to go to 12/12 to get it to flower. I've tried several strains. But think I am just gonna stick with Dinafem from now on. It's all good though. I've done autos 12/12. Works fine. Just grow whatever you want too. Have fun with it.

I did and all I see is
- 3-4 weeks or longer vegtimes
- a minimum of 16 hours of light per day

Okay you maybe right with some yielding okay but my other points I have to see arguments to chalenge them.
I think the same way to each his own. If people grow auto or not its on them. If they have fun all is fine. But there is no big advatage besides the single cab argument.
and sad but true I must see one more time that most breeders are not honest in their description. Or can you show me the autostrain that starts flowering after developing 4 sets of leafes have developed? Cant find one. Sorry

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

LOL! Your just lonely bro and need someone to talk to. I will be your friend today as I have time. We here in the RIU community love you man. Have a great day.

 

[Gbuddy]

I love you too bro

I know we are on riu and I love it and thats why I share my thoughts here.

Ok maybe I am just a lil pissed about my experience with the autos.
maybe I just expected too much from cannabis ruderalis.
and I talk to you so who do I need more to talk to at the moment.
I have a big family to talk to if I am in need of a hug or something.
I just shared my thoughts on the subject and I cant see anything wrong with that.
I wish you a wonderful day too bro.

 

[Iamlegend2121]

That is absolutly not what I was saying.
read my first post again.

I say
- they dont start flowering after the plant produced the first 3-4 sets of leafes.
- they dont need only 60 days from seed to harvest.
-they need more lighthours than a photo strain that goes straight 12-12 or one week of veg.

And that is right.

I agree with you that most breeders lie about the seed to harvest days. But I have had autos that do preflower on day 14 and then are flowering within a week or two after that. Autos are a lot different then photos. You can trigger early flowering with autoflowers by putting them in a smaller pot and also starting flowering nutes as soon as you see pre flowers. If you want them to go longer then bigger pots and not feeding bloom nutes early is the way to go. Try using smaller pots. I don't think I've ever had an auto that would fill a ten gallon pot. I also agree that most autos grown outdoors (depending on where you live) don't yield as well as the indoor ones. If you do some digging you will find ones that do extremely well outdoors but they won't be the same as photos. The advantage I see from autos as that one you don't need to worry about light schedules or light leaks. Another advantage is those who don't have space for four foot monsters.