Reveg is faster, then starting over from seed.. With pics

Darth Vapour

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wheres todays pics to prove your right lol i mean i have revegged a plant curious i mean i trimmed a plant to couple larf buds on her cut the stalk down from its 4 - 5 feet height and put it in clone veg room it took pretty long time thinking to get it back in veg and growing like a normal plant of course plant looked retarded for a while but eventually came around but i think seed would be faster from what i remember she was left in 24 hr lighting i think 8 - 8.5 weeks but this was harvested plant... then you have the salt build up in soils and boom nutes rather then VEG personally i think seeds would win
8 weeks to to get back on track n growing vs seed
 

ODanksta

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wheres todays pics to prove your right lol i mean i have revegged a plant curious i mean i trimmed a plant to couple larf buds on her cut the stalk down from its 4 - 5 feet height and put it in clone veg room it took pretty long time thinking to get it back in veg and growing like a normal plant of course plant looked retarded for a while but eventually came around but i think seed would be faster from what i remember she was left in 24 hr lighting i think 8 - 8.5 weeks but this was harvested plant... then you have the salt build up in soils and boom nutes rather then VEG personally i think seeds would win
8 weeks to to get back on track n growing vs seed
Naw it's definitely coming back faster then the seed, i'll be able take cuttings in about a week and a half. The seed won't even show sex by then. But depending on how long you flowered her out makes a differenceimage.jpg
 

Darth Vapour

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looks like not to many cuttings though lol surprised you never just cloned them few off the bottom and be done with it after trimming plant
I thought this thread was to let that plant grow and re flower it when she is big enough not take clones from it i mean
your stating that re vegging is faster then seed if that is the case you better leave plant alone and wait for it to be a bush again like this 8 week from seed under 36 watts of T5's
so from the time you placed the trimmed plant into a room and started re veg to making it a average plant that can go into flower will take over `10 + weeks i would think a seed plant i see no way it would be faster here is a plant from seed i could take 2000 clones off it lol she is a tree 11 feet tall 12 feet wide
so honestly Just my opinion you might be out to lunch on your hunch revegging will be quicker then seed how many weeks has she been going so far total ???? and she is still not 100 percent in veg yet still lots of deformed leaf growing is going to be going on also i see no new growth anywhere on the plant

PS do not take clones let it re veg till she is a plant ready to go into flower gallery_11738_4818_56188.jpgIMG2540.jpg
 

ODanksta

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looks like not to many cuttings though lol surprised you never just cloned them few off the bottom and be done with it after trimming plant
I thought this thread was to let that plant grow and re flower it when she is big enough not take clones from it i mean
your stating that re vegging is faster then seed if that is the case you better leave plant alone and wait for it to be a bush again like this 8 week from seed under 36 watts of T5's
so from the time you placed the trimmed plant into a room and started re veg to making it a average plant that can go into flower will take over `10 + weeks i would think a seed plant i see no way it would be faster here is a plant from seed i could take 2000 clones off it lol she is a tree 11 feet tall 12 feet wide
so honestly Just my opinion you might be out to lunch on your hunch revegging will be quicker then seed how many weeks has she been going so far total ???? and she is still not 100 percent in veg yet still lots of deformed leaf growing is going to be going on also i see no new growth anywhere on the plant

PS do not take clones let it re veg till she is a plant ready to go into flower View attachment 3501939View attachment 3501940
In the first post I stated, yes there are better ways to start a veg, there no Arguing that. But this was an incident that happened at my girls house, because she doesn't have a dedicated veg and flower room just a little ol closet.

Think of this technique is best for saving a Pheno if you didn't take cuttings from a particular plant.

Do you understand what I talking about?
 

borbor

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nice man, subscribing,
don't mean to thread jack you, but am currently experiencing the power of revegging on a plant from my first grow.
here it is in a 15 gallon pot yesterday, about two weeks into 12/12.
I chopped on may 29th and put into 12/12 again on september 2nd, but from the looks of this plant it's worth it
 

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ODanksta

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So I already have branches every coming out, I could already take clones but they would be small, and just a few. The seed just shot the third set of leaves. I am going to give it about a week maybe a little longer.. I need about 30 cuttings for a little sea of green grow. I am not getting any weird leaf formations out of the reveg. Actually they went from 1 leaf straight to 5 leaves. I will update with pics in a couple of hours..

But needless to say, I will be able to cuttings and have them rooted before the seed even shows it's sex under 24 hours of lighting..
 

ODanksta

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Alright this thread was started on Monday now it's Saturday so this is how fast it's revegging

Mondayimage.jpegimage.jpeg


Now Saturday image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg




Now it's Obvious the reveg is further along, but that is because the seed is building its roots, once the roots get established the seed plant will explode. However I will already have rooted clones by then
 

MonkeyGrinder

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Reveg is pretty awesome. I found a damn good keeper and tossed her under a light with her sisters. The #1 keeper actually revegged and was putting on growth faster than the other 2 favorites. She was pushing off normal leaf growth and chugging along normally a full 10 days sooner. Kept those as well though. Tossed them all into outdoor hidden scrogs. They've just put on their first big initial swell (my 1st time scrogging too)
I took 8 cuttings of the keeper. Only 1 rooted via bubble cloner. There's 4 cuttings left that STILL won't root. The cutting that did is good size and all. They all were/are. None of that take a tiny cutting from the top. We're talking 4 -7 inches and several nodes on the stem area. It's just hanging out and being kinda idle now. Much slower growth than from seeding and reveg. I think she just doesn't like to clone period?
I want to mother her out when she kicks back in (if she does) for 2016.
The cuttings from the other 2 rooted all fine and dandy.
So winter's experiment will be attempting various methods of cloning on my wannabe keeper to find something that works more consistently. From humidity dome to air layering. UB made a tutorial on it a while back.
The reveg time was good though. I went all out on these. The backstory of the plants is that they were mainlined for 8 tops. Clipped the tops down to the very bottom budsites (so 8 branches with 16 buds each) Then then under a 2x2 8bulb T5 rig. I was only running 4 bulbs at first. Had them on 18/6 light. Then threw them under a 600w MH under gaslighting hours when they were alive and kicking it again. The 1st one took right under 3 weeks. I figured the gaslighting hours would throw them back into flower but nope. Didn't happen.
They went strait beast mode and turned into monster bushes though. The keeper filled the screen up in like 2 weeks. There were several branches shooting up out of each budsite. I'd love to see a plant from seed do that.

I just read through several threads on here about how to actually get the job done when it comes to reveg. Like using proper and more powerful lighting than the kid that gives it a whirl by tossing a plant in his closet with his stepdad's old 23w Metallica lamp. Then complains that revegging sucks and doesn't work.
I didn't trim roots or any of that mess. I didn't flush anything. I just kicked in the veg nutes when the plant started lightening up a bit.
 

ricky1lung

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A reveg should be faster because it already has a developed root system.
I have a couple nl's reveging right now because I didn't take any cuts.

I've done it before with a hard to clone strain, was able to take enough cuts to perfect the cloning of that particular plant.
 

BobCajun

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If you just left bottom parts of all the buds when you harvested you should have virtually a full plant already grown. You would only have to wait for all those bud scaps to reveg for a couple weeks and you could flower them again. Not much point in cutting off all the big stems that are already there. How much yield could you miss out on by leaving just the bottom budlets of all the buds? You'd be taking probably 90-95% of the buds. You would want to do some root trimming to avoid too much roots I guess, especialy if they were in soil. Maybe the budlets of the upper buds would be too far gone to regen, I don't know. Never actually tried this yet.
 

ODanksta

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If you just left bottom parts of all the buds when you harvested you should have virtually a full plant already grown. You would only have to wait for all those bud scaps to reveg for a couple weeks and you could flower them again. Not much point in cutting off all the big stems that are already there. How much yield could you miss out on by leaving just the bottom budlets of all the buds? You'd be taking probably 90-95% of the buds. You would want to do some root trimming to avoid too much roots I guess, especialy if they were in soil. Maybe the budlets of the upper buds would be too far gone to regen, I don't know. Never actually tried this yet.
I understand completely, but this is for my girl who is limited to only a small 2x5 closet. She will be using 2-150hps's and 2-68 cfl's.. I am doing a sog for her and need to cover as much of the area as possible to maximize her area. 30 clones with a one week veg should work pretty well.
 

SPLFreak808

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Wow man, it takes me 2-3 weeks just to get my re-vegges to stop deformed growth. I do cut 60-70% of the root ball and take only 2/3rd of the bud using organic soil, so that probably has something to do with it especially since my fans are usually not green at the end. And i have just started revegging this year, kinda new at it. Any tips will be appreciated especially since my seeds always beat my re-vegges.
 

ODanksta

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Wow man, it takes me 2-3 weeks just to get my re-vegges to stop deformed growth. I do cut 60-70% of the root ball and take only 2/3rd of the bud using organic soil, so that probably has something to do with it especially since my fans are usually not green at the end. And i have just started revegging this year, kinda new at it. Any tips will be appreciated especially since my seeds always beat my re-vegges.
Well this plant should have flowered for two more weeks. But since we were so eager to the next garden started, I chopped early because this plant had very nice sog traits and wanted to save it. But generally if you let it go real far into flower, you'll have a harder time revegging. I didn't do anything special but flip the hours back to 24 on and give it some veg nutes. just trim off the dead shit and give her some light ;)
 

ODanksta

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And to the two posters above me, I think root trimming would send the plant into shock. If I had no other option, I would transplant into a larger pot if possible.

But don't quote me on this, I just grow good pot but by no means a plant expert..
 

SPLFreak808

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And to the two posters above me, I think root trimming would send the plant into shock. If I had no other option, I would transplant into a larger pot if possible.

But don't quote me on this, I just grow good pot but by no means a plant expert..
Ok i see, i did let that indica flower all the way. Not only did i cut 60/70% of the root mass in my 15g pot,i also transplanted back down into a 7 gallon organic N heavy soil. possibly causing more stress,followed by a calcium def. What was incredibly odd, was that all buds didnt reveg at the same time, it was a couple cola's per week it took me real long. Next time ill flower in a small pot, and try without stressing her too much.
 

BobCajun

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I understand completely, but this is for my girl who is limited to only a small 2x5 closet. She will be using 2-150hps's and 2-68 cfl's.. I am doing a sog for her and need to cover as much of the area as possible to maximize her area. 30 clones with a one week veg should work pretty well.
Yeah but don't you run full house grows or did you get out of that?
 

BobCajun

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And to the two posters above me, I think root trimming would send the plant into shock. If I had no other option, I would transplant into a larger pot if possible.

But don't quote me on this, I just grow good pot but by no means a plant expert..
I had a big clone mother in a small pot of perlite and every few months growth would get sluggish from rootbind so I would take a long knife and stab into the perlite about halfway between the stem and the pot rim all around the stem. Within a couple weeks it would be vigorous again. Did that every few months and kept it growing in the same little 8" pot for years. I would get 36 cuttings off it every two weeks, big cuttings, the whole branch tips about 6-8" long. Root trimming is very beneficial. You do it after a bunch of trimming or clone taking though, so the reduced roots have less leaf to supply.
 

BobCajun

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Taking a break, looking for a new house..
I see. Quite a bit of work when you get into high volume huh? Cleaning buds alone is a lot of tedious work. Guess it beats digging ditches though or any job really, since it's always demeaning being told what to do and bosses almost always take advantage of their positions of authority. That's what I found good about being a producer when I was doing it, that I was at the top of the pyramid.
 
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