Lets make some Femanized auto seeds.

tazz&indy

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I agree that some of the conventional methods that let the pollen fall out on its own, don't work as well with reversed females, as they do with regular males.

The good news, is that you really don't need a lot, so what you can do, is wait until the flowers are open and falling off when you shake the branch. That ensures they are mature. Shake the branch around over a plate, and then hand pick some stamens out while throwing away the remaining parts of the pollen sacs (they contain moisture). Let them sit out for a day or so to dry out, and then tap them with a credit card edge, or something thin, but not so sharp that it cuts them. They should shoot out little puffs of pollen. It's tedious, but honestly, using tweezers and both hands, to do this to each individual stamen, is more effective than trying to smash them all up, because if there is any moisture, it will cause your pollen to clump and be ruined. If you do this over glass, you can use a razor to push all the pollen into a small pile. Even a very little bit will get you hundreds of seeds.
How long and how, have you ever been able to store some pollen?
 

EverythingsHazy

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Thanks for sharing that information with me, well appreciated
No problem, man. Glad to help out wherever I can.

How long and how, have you ever been able to store some pollen?
Personally, I haven't tried storing pollen, but if you dry it thoroughly, and put a couple of grains of rice into the container, and store that in the freezer, it should be able to last for at least a few months from what I've read. Not sure what's the max tho. Just make sure it doesn't get wet, or it'll be ruined. This includes taking the container in and out of the freezer, or leaving the freezer door open for a long time, which can both cause condensation to form.
 

tazz&indy

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No problem, man. Glad to help out wherever I can.


Personally, I haven't tried storing pollen, but if you dry it thoroughly, and put a couple of grains of rice into the container, and store that in the freezer, it should be able to last for at least a few months from what I've read. Not sure what's the max tho. Just make sure it doesn't get wet, or it'll be ruined. This includes taking the container in and out of the freezer, or leaving the freezer door open for a long time, which can both cause condensation to form.
I will look into it, turns out I have more pollen than anticipated and nothing to put it on at the moment. I will start a few choice plants and hope that the pollen last until the plants are ready for pollination .
 

EverythingsHazy

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I will look into it, turns out I have more pollen than anticipated and nothing to put it on at the moment. I will start a few choice plants and hope that the pollen last until the plants are ready for pollination .
If you have excess pollen, you might want to try different storage methods. Put little bits in each container, and see which stays viable the longest. You can try silica gel packets, dry rice grains, and flour. Some people actually mix in flower with their pollen, to "dilute/cut" it, since you will likely be wasting thousands of grains of pollen each time you pollinate a plant (most grains don't find their own pistil. If you use flour, you can get more "mileage" out of the same amount of pollen.

I'd think you could probably get good results with flour AND one of the other two options.
 

tazz&indy

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If you have excess pollen, you might want to try different storage methods. Put little bits in each container, and see which stays viable the longest. You can try silica gel packets, dry rice grains, and flour. Some people actually mix in flower with their pollen, to "dilute/cut" it, since you will likely be wasting thousands of grains of pollen each time you pollinate a plant (most grains don't find their own pistil. If you use flour, you can get more "mileage" out of the same amount of pollen.

I'd think you could probably get good results with flour AND one of the other two options.
That's a good idea, it will also narrow down which method to use next time. I am curious about the flower mix, never heard of it. Thank again
 

Iamlegend2121

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I agree that some of the conventional methods that let the pollen fall out on its own, don't work as well with reversed females, as they do with regular males.

The good news, is that you really don't need a lot, so what you can do, is wait until the flowers are open and falling off when you shake the branch. That ensures they are mature. Shake the branch around over a plate, and then hand pick some stamens out while throwing away the remaining parts of the pollen sacs (they contain moisture). Let them sit out for a day or so to dry out, and then tap them with a credit card edge, or something thin, but not so sharp that it cuts them. They should shoot out little puffs of pollen. It's tedious, but honestly, using tweezers and both hands, to do this to each individual stamen, is more effective than trying to smash them all up, because if there is any moisture, it will cause your pollen to clump and be ruined. If you do this over glass, you can use a razor to push all the pollen into a small pile. Even a very little bit will get you hundreds of seeds.
Hey EverythingsHazy, I was just poking around at one of my reversed females and a pollen sac opened. I ended up taking it off with tweezers and it looked like an empty sac. Do you usually see the pollen when they open or do you have to wait until the stamen dries out? I might just have a male that is not viable. I hope that's not the case. That would be a waste of a month and a half keeping him alive and spraying lol
 

EverythingsHazy

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Hey EverythingsHazy, I was just poking around at one of my reversed females and a pollen sac opened. I ended up taking it off with tweezers and it looked like an empty sac. Do you usually see the pollen when they open or do you have to wait until the stamen dries out? I might just have a male that is not viable. I hope that's not the case. That would be a waste of a month and a half keeping him alive and spraying lol
I usually wait a day before poking around at the stamens, because I don't want to get any of the residual moisture on the pollen, which will destroy it. It also causes it to clump, and makes it harder to collect.
That said, if the plant is already covered in pollen sacs, and some are maturing already, you don't have to keep spraying it. In fact, I would recommend you stop, so you don't get any of the spray into the opening pollen sacs. That will ruin the pollen as well.
 

Iamlegend2121

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I usually wait a day before poking around at the stamens, because I don't want to get any of the residual moisture on the pollen, which will destroy it. It also causes it to clump, and makes it harder to collect.
That said, if the plant is already covered in pollen sacs, and some are maturing already, you don't have to keep spraying it. In fact, I would recommend you stop, so you don't get any of the spray into the opening pollen sacs. That will ruin the pollen as well.
Thanks I just took some off again and went back within an hour and their was pollen on the paper. When I started tapping more fell out. I collected a little clump but somewhere along the line of tapping and scraping it all disappears lol idk if it just blew away or if it got stuck to the razor blade. Next time I'll let them dry out a little longer before trying to scrape it up
 

Iamlegend2121

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I'm trying to scrape it then put it in a tube. Every time I get a nice little pile when I try to push it to the tube it slowly disappears. It's all getting stuck to the razor blade.
 

Seedlin

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I agree that some of the conventional methods that let the pollen fall out on its own, don't work as well with reversed females, as they do with regular males.

The good news, is that you really don't need a lot, so what you can do, is wait until the flowers are open and falling off when you shake the branch. That ensures they are mature. Shake the branch around over a plate, and then hand pick some stamens out while throwing away the remaining parts of the pollen sacs (they contain moisture). Let them sit out for a day or so to dry out, and then tap them with a credit card edge, or something thin, but not so sharp that it cuts them. They should shoot out little puffs of pollen. It's tedious, but honestly, using tweezers and both hands, to do this to each individual stamen, is more effective than trying to smash them all up, because if there is any moisture, it will cause your pollen to clump and be ruined. If you do this over glass, you can use a razor to push all the pollen into a small pile. Even a very little bit will get you hundreds of seeds.
 
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