how the fuck?! what size pots were these and what did you yield?
How long does your super soil last?
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how the fuck?! what size pots were these and what did you yield?
green_machine_two9er
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none of those are done yet but i have been doing 3 gallon pots. quick veg. 2-3 weeks. and will get 1.5-2.5 off each 3 g. i can fit 12 under 1000 watt hood, so works for me. i have done 7-10 gallon pots with a longer veg and can typically yield 4 oz each. but only can fit 4 or so under each lamp.
norcal mmj
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Realy you don't know what top dressing is ? It's extra soil or amendments put on top of your soil for a extra boost. If you guys want to smoke green leaf plants go ahead but I like flushed/dead plants with no extra food in them when I harvest. I just recycle my soil after I'm done by adding more amendments and letting it compost before use.
green_machine_two9er
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no i completly understand topdressing. but never used amended soil to do it. what is underneith your top dress of super soil? thats where im confused i guess. and its not "extra food" if that were the case one would have to not only reamemnd soil but build from scrach as all the food is gone. whats left is just a soiless medium than. but thats not the case and probable never will be witht he majority of nutrients. Nitrogen is the only which may run low during the end. but its very mobile and can be used up during a grow cycle with small pots. to each their own. but my opinion a bit of color change is one thing. genetics could play a huge role in that too. but leaf necrosis and crumling crispy leaves is the plants saying HEY, Somethings not right here human please help
norcal mmj
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Well if you top dress with your amended composted soil all the water soluble food will feed your plant a little extra. Other than that to each there own. I'm a weednerd and grow like subcool except I compost and reuse my soil. In my pots half super soil half roots organic.
norcal mmj
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Text is a bad way to express complex thoughts, just saying.
Pattahabi
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green_machine_two9er
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why not all super soil and top dress with ewc and those water soluable nutrients?
norcal mmj
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Because I like the fade, I want to see my soil run out of food and feed 1 or 2 times at the end.
norcal mmj
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Right 1.5 grams a watt is so bad. Forget his personality and seed company and look at the grows only. I'm just into growing a good gram to watt ratio and having good Clean pot. Dollars in dollars out.
Really if you use his shit as a starting point it's great. It gets you into composting and dry amendments. It's all about feeding you soil and not your plants. He started my path down true organics is that do bad ?
norcal mmj
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My new thing I'm working on learning is fermented plant food with kelp and alfalfa. It's simple and fun.
Machiavelli_719
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He's got good strains a pretty good soil
Exactly everyone hates on him but he does have some awesome grows under his belt. And he also started me on true living organics. Never tried tga seeds is there anything iffy about them?
fermented? sounds interesting.. where can I find that?
ewc and some good mulch is all I top dressed with this grow and it did give them a nice kick! and I have all super soil in my 7g.
norcal mmj
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Look up plant fermentation, I'm making my own liquid kelp and alfalfa food. In a tea with a bubbler you want aerobic bacteria and in fermenting you want anaerobic bacteria.
I took my water that has been sitting out for a few days and rehydrated the plant material I'm working with, then blend it to break it up into smaller pieces. After that I add a teaspoon of molasses for food and let it sit for a month, shaking it every week or so. The idea is to use a container that lets c02 out but doesn't let 02 back in. I use a milk gallon with a loose lid, to let the pressure out. The idea is the break the plant matter down so it's more bio-available all at one time.
It's my new thing only done it 2 times but I'm learning. I alway try to learn a new method or idea with ever grow.
ever done a kelp top dressing?
I've read something a few weeks back on bas about letting kelp rehydrate and then it becomes a big clump of solidified kelp and he purees it and strains it and dissolves like 2 tsp to a gallon for a foliar and 1 tbs to a gallon for direct soil applications. somewhat the same concept?
I'm gonna look up what you said later though for sure.
Pattahabi
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That is subjective. I've grown out Chernobyl and Agent Organge, neither of which would see my flower room again. Such good soil he throws it out everytime...
I don't give a rat's ass about 1.5g per watt. If you are going for numbers go talk shop with the hydro guys. Dollars in (his pocket) Dollars out (your pocket). This baffon has been greasing the editors at high times for decades now. The only thing he knows is how to talk out his arse. I heard him say once how much plants hate neem... would you like to see my plants after I spray them with neem? I suppose the praying towards the lights means they hated it.
Bone meal, blood meal, etc... I think he's getting an endorsement for the slaughterhouse byproduct producers association.Subtool's stupid soil is a reckless and pathetic attempt at applying an npk/hydrostore mentality to organic soil growing. He does not stress the importance of the humic portion of the soil, but advocates a truckload of different ingredients. He openly states he uses avid on his plants, and I'm sure the non-organic doesn't stop there (rooting hormones, etc).
It ain't rocket science,
P-
norcal mmj
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Thanks for being nice and stating a fact with out attacking me. Most people are so negative when they make a point.That is subjective. I've grown out Chernobyl and Agent Organge, neither of which would see my flower room again. Such good soil he throws it out everytime...
I don't give a rat's ass about 1.5g per watt. If you are going for numbers go talk shop with the hydro guys. Dollars in (his pocket) Dollars out (your pocket). This baffon has been greasing the editors at high times for decades now. The only thing he knows is how to talk out his arse. I heard him say once how much plants hate neem... would you like to see my plants after I spray them with neem? I suppose the praying towards the lights means they hated it.
Subtool's stupid soil is a reckless and pathetic attempt at applying an npk/hydrostore mentality to organic soil growing. He does not stress the importance of the humic portion of the soil, but advocates a truckload of different ingredients. He openly states he uses avid on his plants, and I'm sure the non-organic doesn't stop there (rooting hormones, etc).
It ain't rocket science,
P-
What's avid, I've only been watching his show for 2 year and im thinking when he moved to Cali he might have gone more organic. He's a spionsad fan I thought. I've only been growing for 3 years and making my own soil for about a year and a half.
norcal mmj
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Next spring I'm starting a worm bin.
norcal mmj
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Yes same idea but then you let bacteria breakdown the plant matter by letting is sit for a month or so. Ive topped dressed my outdoor with lots of stuff but not my indoor so much. I bought 25lb bags of amendments this year that's why I've been playing with plant fermentation.