help: weird spots

cuckooforcannabis

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First of all a little about my setup: I've got eight plants total of unknown strain or gender, I saved the seeds over a long time finding them in some bags of dank, Stupidly forgetting what they were along the way. I've got them all under 600w mh about a foot and a half from the tops, with four 42w 5000k cfls supplementing. They're In 5gal buckets with holes drilled for drainage, in sunshine advance mix #4 with a little dolomite lime mixed in. They broke the surface of the soil 13 days ago.
This is my first indoor grow ever, and I need a little help Identifying a couple weird spots. There are three of these In total, all on different plants. They're pale green to yellow in color, about 1/4 the size of a pea, and dimpled if you're looking at the top Of the leaf, and pimple like on the bottom. I had tin foil on the walls of the closet, so I thought at first it was light burn, but one grew and another popped up since I took it down. ill try to upload a pic. Thanks for reading this long ass post
 

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stnr420

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First of all a little about my setup: I've got eight plants total of unknown strain or gender, I saved the seeds over a long time finding them in some bags of dank, Stupidly forgetting what they were along the way. I've got them all under 600w mh about a foot and a half from the tops, with four 42w 5000k cfls supplementing. They're In 5gal buckets with holes drilled for drainage, in sunshine advance mix #4 with a little dolomite lime mixed in. They broke the surface of the soil 13 days ago.
This is my first indoor grow ever, and I need a little help Identifying a couple weird spots. There are three of these In total, all on different plants. They're pale green to yellow in color, about 1/4 the size of a pea, and dimpled if you're looking at the top Of the leaf, and pimple like on the bottom. I had tin foil on the walls of the closet, so I thought at first it was light burn, but one grew and another popped up since I took it down. ill try to upload a pic. Thanks for reading this long ass post
don't add lime. To. Sunshine. Mix! I see a lot of people doing this and I don't know why. It already has the correct ratios and when u add more it throws off the soil ph.
 

cuckooforcannabis

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don't add lime. To. Sunshine. Mix! I see a lot of people doing this and I don't know why. It already has the correct ratios and when u add more it throws off the soil ph.
I heard a whole lot of people who use it talking about how the peat moss starts decaying about the third month and the soil becoming too acidic. And it's slow release. I only used two tablespoons per 5 Gal of Soil.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I heard a whole lot of people who use it talking about how the peat moss starts decaying about the third month and the soil becoming too acidic. And it's slow release. I only used two tablespoons per 5 Gal of Soil.
Love your username man.
And peat is already WELL decayed,, like thousands of yrs decayed/composted.
You are thinking of the tendency of it "going" acidic over time, which it's just reacting with all the nutrients and such.
I'd be hesitant to add d-lime to an already "limed" mix.
but that's just me.
 

HookahsGarden

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Looks like normal wear and tear. Maybe a water droplet burnt a hole. It happens.

As for adding some dolomite lime to your premixed soil... ..winning! That was a stellar move and will do nothing but help.
Best of luck.
Peace
 

cuckooforcannabis

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Love your username man.
And peat is already WELL decayed,, like thousands of yrs decayed/composted.
You are thinking of the tendency of it "going" acidic over time, which it's just reacting with all the nutrients and such.
I'd be hesitant to add d-lime to an already "limed" mix.
but that's just me.
Hmm I hadn't thought about that. Well I don yourt have A ph meter yet but when I get One I'll check it. When I clone these or I get some good seeds I won't lime that soil and then I'll check the diff throughout the grow
 
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greasemonkeymann

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Looks like normal wear and tear. Maybe a water droplet burnt a hole. It happens.

As for adding some dolomite lime to your premixed soil... ..winning! That was a stellar move and will do nothing but help.
Best of luck.
Peace
Um ok.
Adding dolomite lime to an already limed mix isn't "winning" in my opinion.
Do nothing but help?
First of all a little about my setup: I've got eight plants total of unknown strain or gender, I saved the seeds over a long time finding them in some bags of dank, Stupidly forgetting what they were along the way. I've got them all under 600w mh about a foot and a half from the tops, with four 42w 5000k cfls supplementing. They're In 5gal buckets with holes drilled for drainage, in sunshine advance mix #4 with a little dolomite lime mixed in. They broke the surface of the soil 13 days ago.
This is my first indoor grow ever, and I need a little help Identifying a couple weird spots. There are three of these In total, all on different plants. They're pale green to yellow in color, about 1/4 the size of a pea, and dimpled if you're looking at the top Of the leaf, and pimple like on the bottom. I had tin foil on the walls of the closet, so I thought at first it was light burn, but one grew and another popped up since I took it down. ill try to upload a pic. Thanks for reading this long ass post
Another thing to mention, you are using WAY too much light on these little guys, you don't need that much light on plants that have only been out of the ground for two weeks.
I mean you can, but you don't need all that yet.
 

HookahsGarden

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Um ok.
Adding dolomite lime to an already limed mix isn't "winning" in my opinion.
Do nothing but help?

Another thing to mention, you are using WAY too much light on these little guys, you don't need that much light on plants that have only been out of the ground for two weeks.
I mean you can, but you don't need all that yet.
You quoted my for post for what reason?
Maybe to argue about dolomite lime?

Save it. He already added it.
Let him be the judge from here.


Dolomite lime added 2TBS per gallon to "just about" any store bought soil mix is a good idea. This is going to help buffer the meduims pH better than it would without it.
End of story.

Peace
 

greasemonkeymann

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You quoted my for post for what reason?
Maybe to argue about dolomite lime?

Save it. He already added it.
Let him be the judge from here.


Dolomite lime added 2TBS per gallon to "just about" any store bought soil mix is a good idea. This is going to help buffer the meduims pH better than it would without it.
End of story.

Peace
ok end of story.
you are 100% right.
Add d-lime to everything.
 

greasemonkeymann

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You quoted my for post for what reason?
Maybe to argue about dolomite lime?

Save it. He already added it.
Let him be the judge from here.


Dolomite lime added 2TBS per gallon to "just about" any store bought soil mix is a good idea. This is going to help buffer the meduims pH better than it would without it.
End of story.

Peace
actually fuck that, my pacifist side is gonna be quiet for now.
Tired of people spreading misinformation.
Go do a LIL research on nutrient antagonism, just to start.
http://organic-fertilizer-tips.blogspot.com/2011/05/dolomite-lime-why-using-lime-is.html
Here go read this too.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-much-dolomite-lime.829363/
End of story?
arrogant...
Wouldn't publicly call you out if you would have been respectful.
more?
http://gardenrant.com/?guest_post=please-stop-liming-your-soil-based-on-the-ph
 

HookahsGarden

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actually fuck that, my pacifist side is gonna be quiet for now.
Tired of people spreading misinformation.
Go do a LIL research on nutrient antagonism, just to start.
http://organic-fertilizer-tips.blogspot.com/2011/05/dolomite-lime-why-using-lime-is.html
Here go read this too.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-much-dolomite-lime.829363/
End of story?
arrogant...
Wouldn't publicly call you out if you would have been respectful.
more?
http://gardenrant.com/?guest_post=please-stop-liming-your-soil-based-on-the-ph
I can copy and paste a bunch of opposition articles and threads but I'm kinda busy in the garden today.
Your pacifist side is smarter, imo.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to be so helpful.
 

HookahsGarden

Well-Known Member
actually fuck that, my pacifist side is gonna be quiet for now.
Tired of people spreading misinformation.
Go do a LIL research on nutrient antagonism, just to start.
http://organic-fertilizer-tips.blogspot.com/2011/05/dolomite-lime-why-using-lime-is.html
Here go read this too.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-much-dolomite-lime.829363/
End of story?
arrogant...
Wouldn't publicly call you out if you would have been respectful.
more?
http://gardenrant.com/?guest_post=please-stop-liming-your-soil-based-on-the-ph
I'm tired of people telling people stupid shit too.
Look what lime does to my garden.20150717_161701.jpg
 
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greasemonkeymann

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I can copy and paste a bunch of opposition articles and threads but I'm kinda busy in the garden today.
Your pacifist side is smarter, imo.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to be so helpful.
have a nice day man.
just a noobtard with 20+ yrs of exp, and a very extensive knowledge in botany and organics.
Ignore those links.
You have beautiful plants my brother.
Contrary to the d-lime statement.
 

HookahsGarden

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have a nice day man.
just a noobtard with 20+ yrs of exp, and a very extensive knowledge in botany and organics.
Ignore those links.
You have beautiful plants my brother.
Contrary to the d-lime statement.
You have a great day as well.
Sorry I was dick. Your not a noobtard, that was rude.

I really like helping new guys get past beginner issues. I do respect your knowledge.

Crappy bag soils are very inconsistent and it really helps a new grower to use a little DL to get past pH issues, imo. That guarantee that your soil has some buffering capabilities goes a long way , especially with bottles of nutrients.
It's not a cure all or a deal breaker, but for some new growers it's a game changer.
 

greasemonkeymann

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You have a great day as well.
Sorry I was dick. Your not a noobtard, that was rude.

I really like helping new guys get past beginner issues. I do respect your knowledge.

Crappy bag soils are very inconsistent and it really helps a new grower to use a little DL to get past pH issues, imo. That guarantee that your soil has some buffering capabilities goes a long way , especially with bottles of nutrients.
It's not a cure all or a deal breaker, but for some new growers it's a game changer.
I appreciate that man, i apologize for coming off a lil more aggressive than usual.
I think what you are saying is actually accurate, in your case, reason i say that as i saw more pictures of your setup, and therefore can see that we grow totally different. Not that either way is right or wrong, it's be like me explaining to you why i like my women the way i do..
I am water only, with an amended leaf-mold compost as my base, i don't use any liming agents, i use oyster flour, oyster shells, biochar, crab and shrimp meal to keep the ph in check. No-till for three runs and remix in my compost.
Again i apologize, as if you are indeed using more bottled nutrients, than absolutely your soil may run more acidic over time, as I've always said that liquid nutrients almost always will steer a soil mix acidic.
Glad we could stomp that.
I am indeed a pacifist, wouldn't believe that if you saw me, but i digress.
take care man
 
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