Hawaii Growers

[Frosteze]

Noooooo!

I am dealing with these:



Cheers,
Mo

This is my first attempt at growing outdoors. Knew it was going to be a hassle due to the pests I deal with on my other crops. I'm hoping the results pay off. Just gotta stay on top of things I guess.

You've got a hungry little critter there. What's your game plan and how far along are your crops?

 

[808newb]

Noooooo!

I am dealing with these:



Cheers,
Mo

Ya that looks like that could do some damage!

These little f--kers are less that 1 mm wide...I have found they are small enough to make it thru the screen I have for ventilation in the greenhouse. I never see them until the damage is already done when they reemerge from those bore holes.

 

[Mohican]

I sprayed BT and they all fell off dead the next day. A couple of the colas have nothing but leaf skeletons left on them!



Cheers,
Mo

 

[rikdabrick]

Heat hoses f--kers got my kali too, but what I salvaged off her is killer smoke.
3rd week of flower for my pure haze and come out this morning and main stalk dead overnite from these mutherfucks!View attachment 3511355

Yup, that's the same damage I get. Unfortunately they're probably go to kill that plant off branch by branch; that's what they do to mine when they find one they like. I used to grow Bay 11 from Ken Estes and it was top quality, but the borers found it during my last two rounds and would just decimate it. I quit growing that strain because of them. On the upside, my last round they were killing off 3 Kali Mists plants and this round I have one Kali Mist flowering right now and it's looking great and the borers aren't messing with it, hopefully it stays that way.

 

[rikdabrick]

Ya that looks like that could do some damage!

These little f--kers are less that 1 mm wide...I have found they are small enough to make it thru the screen I have for ventilation in the greenhouse. I never see them until the damage is already done when they reemerge from those bore holes.
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I didn't realize they were that small, dang. I found a big larvae burrowing through my stem one time too. It caused the same damage, but it was big. I haven't found one of the borers yet, but I doubt I was looking hard enough to find something that small.

 

[rikdabrick]

I sprayed BT and they all fell off dead the next day. A couple of the colas have nothing but leaf skeletons left on them!



Cheers,
Mo

Yeah brah, when the cats start coming out to play you gotta keep up on the spraying. Someone told me to spray 10 days before a full moon because they apparently hatch and mature right around that time more than most and I've been doing it for about the last 5 months and I haven't had any cat problems since and I used to get budworms every round. I still spray BT, neem and dish soap once a week though, I just make sure I spray 10 days before the full moon for one of the weeks.

 

[rikdabrick]

This is my first attempt at growing outdoors. Knew it was going to be a hassle due to the pests I deal with on my other crops. I'm hoping the results pay off. Just gotta stay on top of things I guess.

You've got a hungry little critter there. What's your game plan and how far along are your crops?

Yup, just stay on top of it. You can follow my advise in the previous post. You could hit your plants up with Spinosad 2-3 times throughout they're life up until bud start setting, that should help quite a bit too.

 

[808newb]

Yup, that's the same damage I get. Unfortunately they're probably go to kill that plant off branch by branch; that's what they do to mine when they find one they like. I used to grow Bay 11 from Ken Estes and it was top quality, but the borers found it during my last two rounds and would just decimate it. I quit growing that strain because of them. On the upside, my last round they were killing off 3 Kali Mists plants and this round I have one Kali Mist flowering right now and it's looking great and the borers aren't messing with it, hopefully it stays that way.

Yea I have noticed they like sativa plants more. When I was growing indica dom plants I remember posting on the frostiest buds thread saying they were so sticky they acted like flypaper cause I would find these small flys and these little black beetles(I could only tell what they looked like because of a big magnifying glass I would use to pick them all off with tweezers), and didn't have a clue as to the damage they can cause because my plants were so healthy with big buds. They were so frosty it looked as if they were frozen in time the way they landed on the bud and just died standing up normal..I would go to shoo them off and they wouldn't move. So hindsight I have had them the whole time, they have only affected me now since I've been growing strictly sativas or sat dom plants. Weird. Oh yea and I went out and found another branch shriveled up this morning...the only branch I left on the main stalk right below where I just cut the last one.

 

[Joedank]

Heat hoses f--kers got my kali too, but what I salvaged off her is killer smoke.
3rd week of flower for my pure haze and come out this morning and main stalk dead overnite from these mutherfucks!View attachment 3511355

yo Bra you gotta get serious on those borers or you could end up having to buy canna...lol.

not kidding now ... look into spinosad for them ... thats hella small for so much damage...

 

[rikdabrick]

@808newb Bummahz on the plant. I figured they wouldn't leave it alone once they found it. I'd take Joedank 's advise and get some Spinosad. It's supposed to be effective against borers.

@Joedank have you ever sprayed Spinosad later in flower? How fast do you think it wears off? I spray my plants with neem, BT and dish soap almost all the way to the end and it all wears off pretty quick between the sun and the rain I get. I was told not to spray it once buds start setting, but I was just wondering if Spinosad would wear off similarly to the neem/BT spray.

 

[Frosteze]

@808newb Bummahz on the plant. I figured they wouldn't leave it alone once they found it. I'd take Joedank 's advise and get some Spinosad. It's supposed to be effective against borers.

@Joedank have you ever sprayed Spinosad later in flower? How fast do you think it wears off? I spray my plants with neem, BT and dish soap almost all the way to the end and it all wears off pretty quick between the sun and the rain I get. I was told not to spray it once buds start setting, but I was just wondering if Spinosad would wear off similarly to the neem/BT spray.

No funkies from neem and soap late in flower? Good to know.

 

[Joedank]

@808newb Bummahz on the plant. I figured they wouldn't leave it alone once they found it. I'd take Joedank 's advise and get some Spinosad. It's supposed to be effective against borers.

@Joedank have you ever sprayed Spinosad later in flower? How fast do you think it wears off? I spray my plants with neem, BT and dish soap almost all the way to the end and it all wears off pretty quick between the sun and the rain I get. I was told not to spray it once buds start setting, but I was just wondering if Spinosad would wear off similarly to the neem/BT spray.

i have gone pretty late as the reasearch info says it decomposes in the UV light ....but only to kill borers or pillers or truebugs. as a last resort you can use double strength and even kill mites ...

 

[HiloReign]

Personally I'd stay away from spraying neem more than 3 or 4 weeks into flower. I have no evidence or claims to back that up, it's just the opinion of someone whom I regard very highly (and myself).

Anyone rocking ACE or Cannabiogen gear recently? (Yes Mohican, I've seen your Malawi LOL)

 

[rikdabrick]

No funkies from neem and soap late in flower? Good to know.

I don't get anything from it. I also just kind of just do a thorough misting, instead of a drenching, when the buds fill out. And I stop about 2 weeks before the plant is done. Like Joedank pointed out with Spinosad, neem and dish soap also degrade quickly under UV light and I get plenty of rain too to wash it off. I know they both wear off pretty quickly because bugs will be on my plants like white on rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm if I don't keep up on the spraying at the very least one a week.

Personally I'd stay away from spraying neem more than 3 or 4 weeks into flower. I have no evidence or claims to back that up, it's just the opinion of someone whom I regard very highly (and myself).

Anyone rocking ACE or Cannabiogen gear recently? (Yes Mohican, I've seen your Malawi LOL)

Here's a read for you HiloReign from the EPA and there's plenty of other sources that you can look up that say the same stuff. The bottom of page 12 shows the half life of neem on a leaf surface under UV light is 2.47 days and 3-6 day in a forest environment in terrestrial matrices, whatever they mean by that, so no worries I guess even within 6 days of harvest at most.

I just stopped running Ace's Malawi after 1.5 years. It has a good effect and is really potent that gets kind of overboard after a 6 month cure. I liked it, but it wasn't a big hit with everyone. It's somewhat airy (not that that should matter, but it does with some people...... silly people). It was frosty, but didn't look that great and it smelled like parsley, celery and good dirt which I liked, but nobody was raving about it or anything. I would like to run all of Ace's and Cannabiogen's stuff though someday.

Are you running either of their strains? What do you have going besides that?

 

[rikdabrick]

i have gone pretty late as the reasearch info says it decomposes in the UV light ....but only to kill borers or pillers or truebugs. as a last resort you can use double strength and even kill mites ...

Thanks for the info. That'll come in handy.

 

[Vnsmkr]

I don't get anything from it. I also just kind of just do a thorough misting, instead of a drenching, when the buds fill out. And I stop about 2 weeks before the plant is done. Like Joedank pointed out with Spinosad, neem and dish soap also degrade quickly under UV light and I get plenty of rain too to wash it off. I know they both wear off pretty quickly because bugs will be on my plants like white on rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm if I don't keep up on the spraying at the very least one a week.



Here's a read for you HiloReign from the EPA and there's plenty of other sources that you can look up that say the same stuff. The bottom of page 12 shows the half life of neem on a leaf surface under UV light is 2.47 days and 3-6 day in a forest environment in terrestrial matrices, whatever they mean by that, so no worries I guess even within 6 days of harvest at most.

I just stopped running Ace's Malawi after 1.5 years. It has a good effect and is really potent that gets kind of overboard after a 6 month cure. I liked it, but it wasn't a big hit with everyone. It's somewhat airy (not that that should matter, but it does with some people...... silly people). It was frosty, but didn't look that great and it smelled like parsley, celery and good dirt which I liked, but nobody was raving about it or anything. I would like to run all of Ace's and Cannabiogen's stuff though someday.

Are you running either of their strains? What do you have going besides that?

I liked your silly people comment so true. Let me tell you..with long flowering sativas which are landrace (at least frkm my experience, which means shit) SE Asian Sativas anyway that have grown have same smells you speak BUT they sometimes hammer, and I like that

 

[Vnsmkr]

Smells dont always mean all

 

[rikdabrick]

So I guess somebody else should throw up some pics too, ha ha.

Here's some Skywalker OG x Pipeline. Really good stuff

This was a Harlequin BX I harvested fairly recently. Really good medicine for my back and hip pain. I've been able to work all day without limping around since I started smoking this regularly.

It's pretty frosty. I probably had another 3 weeks to go after this picture.

This was some Jamaican x Goji OG. Really good stuff too

Some Mango from Blimburn Seeds. It really does smell like mangoes when growing. The smell turns kind of floral after it's done drying. It's good, I like it, but will probably get replaced in the next couple runs or less..... maybe, it handles the rain and humidity good and it's indica dominate which I don't have much of.

I'm pretty sure this was a Mango nug or maybe Jamaican Goji

Some happy ladies vegging. The one in the back left is around 3.5' to 4' tall. She's going to kill it this round I think.

Garden protector

I guess he liked me

 

[rikdabrick]

I liked your silly people comment so true. Let me tell you..with long flowering sativas which are landrace (at least frkm my experience, which means shit) SE Asian Sativas anyway that have grown have same smells you speak BUT they sometimes hammer, and I like that

I believe it about the SE Asian strains. My buddy smoked some Thai in Thailand along the Mekong River and he said him and his buddy were trippin' to the point they intitially thought it was laced, but realized it was just really trippy weed. I've read about some trippy strains from around there. I've got some Mekong Haze seeds from Cambodia; I'll try to pop a few for next summer.

Anyway, I had a couple heavy smokers say that Ace's Malawi was like smoking weed again for the first time. One of my buddies said he hadn't had a head rush like it since he was 13.

 

[rikdabrick]

Some Kali Mist. The pic doesn't do this one justice.

And just for fun, some random pics.

The last batch of QWISO I made.


A praying Jackson. I think he was praying I wasn't going to eat him.

A cool flower I found


And ya gotta end the day with a pretty decent sunset.