250 watt keep it simple ghetto grow - leftover seeds. COBs.

grapefruitmarmalade

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horribleherk said:
Nice thread you have here I'm a big fan of these kind of grows I down sized to a 250-400w. Switchable ballast & haven't looked back I'm getting ready to fire up a new room using this set up I've got my highest bud -per-$$ spent with this set up
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Thanks a lot man. I also like to specialize in smaller grows and get that best efficiency, or gpw or whatever. I know it's not ideal but it measures up to my expectations so far. Nice veggies you got there!
 
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First ever accurate PH-reading. I'm hoping it'll be smooth sailing from here on end. Also I turned the ona gel loose to tune down the dank
Not sure if it's visible but the Blue Kush has some violet tinting on the edge of her leaves.Not sure if nute/ph problem or just genetics. Also she's the one with the heaviest smell problems. Cheers!
 

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mattyblade1

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Looking good Grape. Might want to go up to 6.0 or so. That is my PH meter exactly. Is that reading after all nutes etc have been added?
 
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mattyblade1 said:
Looking good Grape. Might want to go up to 6.0 or so. That is my PH meter exactly. Is that reading after all nutes etc have been added?
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Yes. So in the end PH meter is HM Digital PH-80. The water I start with is 74 ppm and 7.05 PH and it goes down to 6.1 after adding nutes. I put it down to ph 5.5 because I reckon it'll buffer out with the already upped PH in the rez. Besides this ph 5.5 is what most hydro growers use in flower anyways so it should be alright. I'm gonna water again in a couple of days with ph 5.5 and test out the run off. Cheers matty!
 
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I use a t-5 to veg & then a 250w. Blue enhanced hps starting the day of the flip I had an old 400w. Bulb I had laying around from my very first grow light I bought from htg supply I'm sure someone will argue the point about the blue spectrum but the bulb I finished with has a red tint to it I've used hortilux,sylvania ,sun supply& probably a few others in the mix the only advantage I see in the hortilux might be the lifespan there are so many hydro shops nearby bulbs are cheap & plentiful for hps led lighting however is still expensive & im interested but have no knowledge or experience with them since my last grow I've sold my home & bought another one putting together another room & it's not coming together near as fast as I want probably gonna set up a temporary grow area for now as its been awhile since I've generated any stash or had much to contribute around here but look for me to start a thread soon with a diy e&f coco/smart pot set up what you said about marketing hogwash in the beginning of this thread might have some truth to it I usually feed at about 5.6 in my res. Which is on a timer in about 3 days ph creeps upward when it reaches about 6.2 I top off my res& lower the ph. Again I use lemon juice to lower my ph. Here in cen- cal lemon juice is cheap,natural& plentiful
 
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grapefruitmarmalade

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horribleherk said:
I use a t-5 to veg & then a 250w. Blue enhanced hps starting the day of the flip I had an old 400w. Bulb I had laying around from my very first grow light I bought from htg supply I'm sure someone will argue the point about the blue spectrum but the bulb I finished with has a red tint to it I've used hortilux,sylvania ,sun supply& probably a few others in the mix the only advantage I see in the hortilux might be the lifespan there are so many hydro shops nearby bulbs are cheap & plentiful for hps led lighting however is still expensive & im interested but have no knowledge or experience with them since my last grow I've sold my home & bought another one putting together another room & it's not coming together near as fast as I want probably gonna set up a temporary grow area for now as its been awhile since I've generated any stash or had much to contribute around here but look for me to start a thread soon with a diy e&f coco/smart pot set up what you said about marketing hogwash in the beginning of this thread might have some truth to it I usually feed at about 5.6 in my res. Which is on a timer in about 3 days ph creeps upward when it reaches about 6.2 I top off my res& lower the ph. Again I use lemon juice to lower my ph. Here in cen- cal lemon juice is cheap,natural& plentiful
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I find your lack of punctuation disturbing
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nah, just kidding mate. I'm pretty sure the red tint of the HPS indicates it's a little too past it's mid life. TBH I have noticed that the "green" or "agro" or "agrolux" bulb is a tiny bit whiter than the older, cheaper HPS bulb I ran (on the same brand of magnetic ballast)... so I'm pretty sure they fettled with the chemistry of the arc tube. It's worth checking out the Philips CDO-TT; in 70W, 100W, 150W and 250W. They make them in 830 and 828 colours meaning 80 CRI and CCT 3000K/2800K which is what dudes in the LED growing section of the forum deem the "sweet spot". They say it's gonna run with any old magnetic ballast (retrofit) but I think it's safe to stick to the Philips BSN ballast and striker and capacitor. The higher price of them is the reason why I didn't go for that lighting source... also the time it had to take to ship (I once waited a month and a half for some LEDs before I decided call it quits and never order anything that's out stock). Maybe next time :D
If not see the Philips CDM lamps... those are 90 CRI and A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.

EDIT: let me rectify... there's cheaper 150 watt Philips CDM-T lamps on 942 and 830 colours and they run off digital ballast only. They are G12 sockets and they run in Universal position. The ballasts are the expensive parts though... but I KNOW I read somewhere they make a square wave current and that makes it better somehow... anyway if someone could fathom a reflector/vertical setup with those and put a little more money into the ballasts the light spectrum would just wreck it. ok I gotta edit again cause I found these: http://dexingyuan.gmc.globalmarket.com/products/details/e40-to-g12-adapter-1452585.html
now you'd need one of those large adjust-a-wings with double sockets... yet more money lol
 
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TheStickMan said:
Been reading up on the Brainstorm, sounds great. It was sayin how it has all the qualities of the haze, like the smell and taste but the short flower time of the Northern Lights.
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My thoughts exactly. I'd like to get some Haze aroma-therapy going on. And maybe even have myself some smoke. One of these seeds is going in medium this weekend and will be veg'ed along with the other babies and flowered under LEDs. And this is probably my last crop until I move home lol
 
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I put 2 elemental true og & 3 th- seeds mk ultra-X-bubble gum in to germinate last night & started a journal today I'll start unpacking my grow stuff I've used the Phillips bulb in 1000w. But don't remember which one I had it was still new when I got the brain storm to replace it with the "enhanced" hortilux super hps which showed me no better performance than the Phillips I have a friend that flowers with the red enhanced bulbs & swears by them I know the day is gonna come when I go led but meanwhile I have much to learn about lighting I've seen a couple of area51 grows that were quite nice
 
TheStickMan

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grapefruitmarmalade said:
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to get some Haze aroma-therapy going on. And maybe even have myself some smoke. One of these seeds is going in medium this weekend and will be veg'ed along with the other babies and flowered under LEDs. And this is probably my last crop until I move home lol
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Sounds good mate, would like to do a haze myself at some point. What medium are you using? 100% perlite? Where is home mate, still in Spain?
 
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horribleherk said:
I put 2 elemental true og & 3 th- seeds mk ultra-X-bubble gum in to germinate last night & started a journal today I'll start unpacking my grow stuff I've used the Phillips bulb in 1000w. But don't remember which one I had it was still new when I got the brain storm to replace it with the "enhanced" hortilux super hps which showed me no better performance than the Phillips I have a friend that flowers with the red enhanced bulbs & swears by them I know the day is gonna come when I go led but meanwhile I have much to learn about lighting I've seen a couple of area51 grows that were quite nice
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Area 51 LEDs are legit. But you can't match the DIY fixtures if you ask me. There's just so much control on everything and you learn so much and the price... well... the price is just a million times better.
Are you also running Brainstorm? I'd like to see that. post a link to your journal pls
TheStickMan said:
Sounds good mate, would like to do a haze myself at some point. What medium are you using? 100% perlite? Where is home mate, still in Spain?
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I'm applying for university in the UK, Also yes... rockwool cubes and 100% perlite. Never steers me wrong
 
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