Harrekin
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Why doesn't Jesus just come magic up some more?
Down to half the fish
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OddBall1st
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No matter how hard I try,...I just can`t look up to you.
Being irresponsible and making a baby while knowing your neighbors assistance to raise it will be required says that they dont care about themselves, their offspring or their neighbors. Lets just fuck and see what happens, but I doubt the thought process even gets that far.
Teach them scrabble or something, and get their pants back on. Otherwise, its just another "bill in the mail" for the rest of us.
Harrekin
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If he's benevolent, omnipotent and omnipresent...why the fuck not throw us a few fish?
He did it once, we've loads of water here...maybe he could rock out the aul Jesus Juice trick?
abandonconflict
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Deciphering...
"I don't have any fucking clue how wrong Malthus was because I don't even know who he was, but I still have an opinion on the subject."
OddBall1st
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I think he has a plan to replace fishes with lucky Charms,...you know, magically delicious and all .........You wanted magic,....so......
OddBall1st
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Any thread with ...Half in it, we find you....
OddBall1st
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No matter how you try, I`ll be civil with you from then on,........site respect, Harrekin is off limits.....
Harrekin
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ttystikk
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Nice overview of Malthus. My only point of disagreement lies in what happens as animals vs humans return to subsistence levels. I think history shows very clearly that humans don't manage it well at all. We do the Easter Island thing, no one left alive but cryptic monuments... for later generations of Taliban to destroy as religious idols.
oldtimer54
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If we don't learn from our history we're doomed to repeat it .
I think Lance Armstrong said that !
I think Lance Armstrong said that !
heckler73
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I suppose one thing this treatment of Malthus leaves out is the power aspect. However, I equally surmise that was what Hobbes' Leviathan was for; to offer rationale for government.
ttystikk
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Aha! The very source of the Hobbesian choice!
I don't share his disdain for the ability of the populace to govern themselves equitably, without the need for a 'leviathan'.
heckler73
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Actually...he is not the source of Hobson's choice. The two are confused regularly, though. It certainly doesn't help they both had the same first name
Nevertheless, based on what you've seen over the past decade, would you not have some reservations regarding the people's abilities to govern themselves?
ttystikk
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Quite the opposite; we've seen a consistent narrowing of access to power over the course of the twentieth century, with serious consequences to all. I think giving the power to the people would improve things, not make them worse.Actually...he is not the source of Hobson's choice. The two are confused regularly, though. It certainly doesn't help they both had the same first name
Nevertheless, based on what you've seen over the past decade, would you not have some reservations regarding the people's abilities to govern themselves?
heckler73
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What does that entail, though? What does it mean to "give power" in this context?
ttystikk
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Heh heh, smart people are the ones who ask the really good questions!
We actually have a relatively straightforward path in this country; we already have a representative democracy, so we can simply use it to enact laws that existed before the current era of corporate rapaciousness. Simple, NOT easy!
heckler73
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That still leaves Leviathan in place, only less autocratic.
It's not so simple to completely do away with. Even in a technocratic utopia, there would still be some apparatus of governance, albeit mundane.
