What Exxon Has Long Known

abandonconflict

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Great article from The New Yorker by Bill McKibben.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-exxon-knew-about-climate-change

By 1977, an Exxon senior scientist named James Black was, according to his own notes, able to tell the company’s management committee that there was “general scientific agreement” that what was then called the greenhouse effect was most likely caused by man-made CO2; a year later, speaking to an even wider audience inside the company, he said that research indicated that if we doubled the amount of carbon dioxide in the planet’s atmosphere, we would increase temperatures two to three degrees Celsius. That’s just about where the scientific consensus lies to this day. “Present thinking,” Black wrote in summary, “holds that man has a time window of five to ten years before the need for hard decisions regarding changes in energy strategies might become critical.”

Those numbers were about right, too. It was precisely ten years later—after a decade in which Exxon scientists continued to do systematic climate research that showed, as one internal report put it, that stopping “global warming would require major reductions in fossil fuel combustion”—that NASA scientist James Hansen took climate change to the broader public, telling a congressional hearing, in June of 1988, that the planet was already warming. And how did Exxon respond? By saying that its own independent research supported Hansen’s findings? By changing the company’s focus to renewable technology?

That didn’t happen. Exxon responded, instead, by helping to set up or fund extreme climate-denial campaigns.
 
great job eco-warrior. Maybe you can offset climate change by building a peeponics system on your mother's porch.
 
Did you know that greenhouse gasses are essential to life on earth? Have you ever grown weed before?
Do you know what a greenhouse is?
Did you know that there are tens of thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies and the vast majority of the world's climate experts saying that the world is getting warmer because we have raised the PPM of CO2 almost to 400?

You can't even cite one peer reviewed study contradicting that.
 
Did you know that there are tens of thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies and the vast majority of the world's climate experts saying that the world is getting warmer because we have raised the PPM of CO2 almost to 400?

You can't even cite one peer reviewed study contradicting that.

When you say we... Who do you mean? Because from everything I understand, our cars, homes and businesses continue to get cleaner.

Do you mean the developing world? Are we responsible for them like we are still responsible for slavery? You know, something totally out of our control?
 
Did you know that there are tens of thousands of peer reviewed scientific studies and the vast majority of the world's climate experts saying that the world is getting warmer because we have raised the PPM of CO2 almost to 400?

You can't even cite one peer reviewed study contradicting that.
If you type "peer review" one more time I'm going to barf
Do you realize that lowering the ppm back down to 350 is peanuts?
Why are you trying to starve our trees? They need to breathe.
I respect nature, and appreciate plant life. That is why I think we should keep our earth green.
Do you agree?
 
If you type "peer review" one more time I'm going to barf
Do you realize that lowering the ppm back down to 350 is peanuts?
Why are you trying to starve our trees? They need to breathe.
I respect nature, and appreciate plant life. That is why I think we should keep our earth green.
Do you agree?
Shut the fuck up Beenthere. I'm still waiting for someone to post a peer reviewed study contradicting AGW.

Nobody gives a fuck about your dumb ass opinion.
 
If you want to be an
Shut the fuck up Beenthere. I'm still waiting for someone to post a peer reviewed study contradicting AGW.

Nobody gives a fuck about your dumb ass opinion.
If you want a war on greenhouse gases, then why don't you be an asshole; and take out the whole damn atmosphere while you're at it? Then we can be like Mars. Dirt, rocks, and no oxygen.
Liberals are the most destructive people on the planet.
You want citations? Be careful what you ask for...
 
If you want to be an

If you want a war on greenhouse gases, then why don't you be an asshole; and take out the whole damn atmosphere while you're at it? Then we can be like Mars. Dirt, rocks, and no oxygen.
Liberals are the most destructive people on the planet.
You want citations? Be careful what you ask for...




How bout a carbon tax?
 
I hate pollution. Let's go after people who pollute our planet.
Attacking co2 is not going to help shit. the more trees we have, the more oxygen we have.
I love to breathe fresh air. It feels good
You're about as smart as a box of hair. You have literally dismissed scientific facts out of hand and gone on and on about CO2 emissions being good because you like fresh air.

Shut the fuck up Beenthere.
 
You're about as smart as a box of hair. You have literally dismissed scientific facts out of hand and gone on and on about CO2 emissions being good because you like fresh air.


First of all, the temperature records are rigged. The vast majority of measuring stations have been erected and placed in operation since the 1980’s, purposely located in warm artificially warm locations (near airport runways, in the center of downtowns, etc.). This thermometer network is made up of a patchwork of non-research quality instruments that were never made to monitor long-term temperature changes to tenths or hundredths of a degree. Additionally hundreds of temperature monitors in colder climates such as Siberia, Canada, the Alps and the Andes have been withdrawn from dataset. These huge voids are either ignored or in-filled with fictitious data. Thus the temperature of the earth’s atmosphere is purposefully reading warm.
 
Oh look another sock puppet. You sure you want to go there? It is the same everytime, I hand you your ass and remind everyone that you're a rat who had the biggest meltdown in RIU history and you run whinging to the mods about me.
 
This is yet another egregious example of why corporations need to be shown the door out of political affairs, once and for all, on pain of serious prison time for anyone caught breaking the law.
That is what Castro said, right before he took over Cuba
 
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