Is Hillary a gun grabber?

Red1966

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Interesting, so I am a lefty who is against gun control and does not believe evidence yet supports that man is the cause of climate change? Seems legit.
Did I say you were a leftie? Why, no, I didn't. Did I say Salon is a purveyer of leftie propaganda? Why, yes, I did. My statement that labeling yourself as the "speaker of TRUTH" doesn't make it so still stands. Trying to put words in my mouth I never said demonstrates the "speaker of TRUTH" pretense is a lie.
 

god1

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... more guns = more gun violence ...

The problem with your theory is that if you take the human component out of the equation, the number of guns becomes irrelevant. The current problem is that broken people are falling through the cracks. The interesting aspect is that many of those arguing for stricter gun controls will argue for more rights for the people most apt to commit the atrocities.

Why is it so difficult to admit that humans are the problem and then move on for solutions from that position?

Just look at the statistics of the gun ownership in this country, 300 million in the hands of a third of the population. Did you know that there are about 250K legal full auto registrations? Those licences had to have been purchased prior to '86. Broken, fucked up people are the problem.

What irritates me personally is that the bar is always set to the lowest common denominator, which is determined by the ability of the least capable among us.
 

UncleBuck

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the feels crowd
still parroting kynes verbatim. so pathetic.

Mass shootings are done by the crazies, it's more of a mental health problem then a gun problem.
yet other countries also have crazy people, but no gun massacres.

you must be stupid or something.

this happens in cities run by libs more often than not
tucson is not a liberal city.

nor is aurora.

nor is fort hood.

nor is columbine.

nor is charleston.

you must just be stupid.[/QUOTE]
 

UncleBuck

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There are posters here, who wish death on other members, make fun of children burning, laugh about soldiers getting killed, shit on floors of public restaurants... you know, socially unacceptable behavior. Is it lock up worthy? I don't think so, are those the type of people most likely to snap? of course. Maybe once identified as a loon you have to attend outpatient meetings once a month so we can keep tabs on your craziness?
then we have white supremacists who call the FBI when other members join a poker forum.
 

UncleBuck

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The problem with your theory is that if you take the human component out of the equation, the number of guns becomes irrelevant.
hey look.

the guy who supports eugenics is now talking about "taking out the human component".

wow.

Why is it so difficult to admit that humans are the problem and then move on for solutions from that position?...What irritates me personally is that the bar is always set to the lowest common denominator, which is determined by the ability of the least capable among us.
:shock:

you have some hitler-esque positions now.
 

UncleBuck

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You illiterate clown, look up the word eugenics and then cite what I posted. Idiot.
"if you take the human component out of the equation..."

"the bar is always set to the lowest common denominator, which is determined by the ability of the least capable among us."
 

ginwilly

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Nice race card, what, are you trying to take a page from Uncle Buck now?

I think you're right though, when 9 innocent black people were murdered in a church in Charleston, the left didn't even really know about that.. I don't remember hearing anything on the news about it. That just happened and people were like "What? A shooting? .. well were they white? Because that's all I really care about.."


:dunce:
Yeah, the church shooting, glad you brought that up to continue the theme of racial justice crusaders....

What was the outrage? a friggen flag. The racist flag killed those people lol, too funny if it wasn't so sad. The reporter who went on a rampage? The poor mistreated misunderstood victim of racism I mean... did a flag do that one too? You guys are flakes when it comes to facing the issues head on so no way in hell do I trust your "common sense" for, well, anything really, but definitely not gun control.

Explain again how a pistol grip on my shotgun kills people and I'll listen to what you might have to say re: common sense.

So far you've tried to prove gun bans work in countries with increased guns, have said the cities with the strictest gun control laws are where the highest gun crimes are because you can go to places without those gun control laws and bring them back. This completely ignores the fact that crime in the cities where people are going to buy them is less than where they go back to. How's that for common sense?

Nope, I don't think we solve the gun issues in this country until liberals realize their policies do not work, have not worked, will not work and are in fact the biggest part of the problem. Here's a causation/correlation for you to try to dig out of. Why are the same cities that lead crime stats consistently the most liberal and most corrupt cities?

We don't have a gun problem, we have a racist liberal idiotic mindset problem. I bet I can show graphs and charts and blogs to prove it too.
 

god1

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"if you take the human component out of the equation..."

"the bar is always set to the lowest common denominator, which is determined by the ability of the least capable among us."
One of your buddies, if not you erased this:

Haha --- I don't know what to say, I really can't help your stupid. Maybe a reading comprehension class will help, on second thought, in your case maybe not too much.
 

UncleBuck

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I don't think we solve the gun issues in this country until liberals realize their policies do not work, have not worked, will not work and are in fact the biggest part of the problem.
no one wants the opinion of a white supremacist on these matters.

Why are the same cities that lead crime stats consistently the most liberal and most corrupt cities?
top states for gun violence are...

1. alaska
2. louisiana
3. mississippi
4. alabama
5. arkansas
6. montana
7. wyoming
8. oklahoma
9. new mexico
10. tennessee
11. south carolina
12. missouri
13. west virginia
14. arizona
15. idaho

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/6/

wooops, the white supremacist fails again.





We don't have a gun problem, we have a racist liberal idiotic mindset problem. I bet I can show graphs and charts and blogs to prove it too.
you can't even stand behind your own neck down evolution theory, dumbass.

give up.
 

Padawanbater2

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"High-Capacity Magazines

High-capacity magazines — or assault weapons likely equipped with them — were used in at least 15 of the incidents (11%). These incidents resulted in an average of 13.3 total people shot — 155% more people shot than in other incidents (5.2) — and 7.5 deaths — 47% more deaths than in other incidents (5.1)."

"Mental Health

Of 133 examined incidents, in only one was there evidence the shooter was prohibited by federal law from possessing guns due to severe mental illness. In 15 other incidents (11 percent), there was there was evidence that concerns about the mental health of the shooter had been brought to the attention of a medical practitioner, school official, or legal authority prior to the shooting."

"Role of Prohibited Possessors

Certain categories of people, including felons, certain domestic abusers, and severely mentally ill people are prohibited by federal law from possessing guns. There was sufficient evidence to judge whether the shooter was a prohibited gun possessor in 116 of the 133 incidents (87%). Of those 116 incidents, 44 (38%) involved a prohibited possessor, and 73 (62%) did not."

"Workplace and School Shootings

Five of the 133 shootings (4%) occurred at the shooter’s current or former workplace. Five of the 133 shooting incidents (4%) took place in schools, including primary, secondary, and college campuses."

"“Gun-free” Zones

Ninety-one of the 133 incidents (68%) took place wholly in private residences. Of the 37 incidents in public spaces, at least 21 took place wholly or in part where concealed guns could be lawfully carried. All told, no more than 17 of the shootings (13%) took place entirely in public spaces that were so-called “gun-free zones.”"

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/mass-shootings-analysis/
 

TubePot

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I think there's some law against it.... I can legally own a firearm in Illinois but when I've tried to buy out of state they always pull out a book and tell me no
There is but folks have been doing this for ages. (Straw Purchases) Like you, I can't buy a "handgun" in any other state but the one I live in, long arms are another story.
 

woody333333

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There is but folks have been doing this for ages. (Straw Purchases) Like you, I can't buy a "handgun" in any other state but the one I live in, long arms are another story.
Have to be pretty damn dumb to buy guns legally and sell em to criminals... Maybe a crazy nra guy

I know if they ever come for mine I'm gonna give em every one they know about... When they leave I'm gonna dig the rest up
 

god1

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I think there's some law against it.... I can legally own a firearm in Illinois but when I've tried to buy out of state they always pull out a book and tell me no

Actually federal law allows for out of state purchase of hand guns, albeit the transfer is via a FFL in your home state.
 

woody333333

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Actually federal law allows for out of state purchase of hand guns, albeit the transfer is via a FFL in your home state.
Ya.... So there's gonna be a background check and waiting period at the gun shop... I'm assuming an additional fee

Can't just drive to Indiana buy a truck load and drop em off on the west side
 

god1

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Ya.... So there's gonna be a background check and waiting period at the gun shop... I'm assuming an additional fee

Can't just drive to Indiana buy a truck load and drop em off on the west side

Yeah if you're legal concealed you can pick it up in store at time of purchase, same with a FFL. Multiple CCW's are convenient if you travel much out of state. If you have multi state residence that works as well. Not sure what you do if you want to buy truck loads off the books.
 
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