Firearms and MI MMJ

Rrog

Rrog

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Now that the Fed can't pursue patients following state MJ laws, I wonder how this affects firearms?

We still can't get permits because they still ask about "drugs?"
 
Motorbuds

Motorbuds

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I don't recall it saying anything about drugs. I specifically looked extra hard but I believe that is not on the application anymore, if it ever was.
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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I was told that if your carrying your legal pistol along with medical mj, its considered "gangster activity".... from the horses..I mean pigs mouth. so mine stays at home. what a waste of my cpl.
 
kountdown

kountdown

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The feds application for firearms contains this question:

e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

If a marijuana user were to answer truthfully to this question they would be prohibited under law from receiving a firearm.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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Rrog said:
"Unlawful user" isn't relevant since it's legal in the state if MI the Feds aren't chasing legal state stuff

So I would not feel I'm lying
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Correct , it will only be a matter of time before this gets challenged. I got my CPL and my MJ card and have since renewed both, no problems. The case I posted should be the beginning of the end for the FED on these issue's. It'll just be a matter of someone challenging them and winning in a federal court!
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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It's "unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" and who knows how any given lawyer at any given time will parse those words to prove their point. For example MJ is a Schedule I Controlled Substance because it is "in fact" addictive as well as dangerous and without medical use. Where the criminal prohibition games of drugs and guns meet is a place no one wants to be and that goes for patients of pill pushers as well ...
 
Rrog

Rrog

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That's the acid test, though I've heard from brothers that have both MMJ and CPL and have been stopped with gun and MJ and no probs.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I'm thinking this still is going to boil down to the demeanor of the cop and prosecutor.

And cops like the permitting process for CPL so it shows responsibility. Maybe
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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Rrog said:
I'm thinking this still is going to boil down to the demeanor of the cop and prosecutor.

And cops like the permitting process for CPL so it shows responsibility. Maybe
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The legal term for demeanor/prejudice is "discretion" ;)
 
Rrog

Rrog

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You get to carry a blunt knife. Under 3". Basically it's one half of the little plastic scissors you were told not to run with in the first grade
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I think there was a specific case where a hatchet was deemed ok. Pretty sure

Otherwise it's a club with a weight = a bludgeon which is a no-no

Hunting knives are ok unless used for deadly force, which of course is what the fuck self defense is so you're still screwed. At their discretion
 
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