Organic vs. Synthetic Nutrients

[VTMi'kmaq]

How about using bottled organic fertilizers like pura vida, earth juice, general organics, iguana juice in say an active nft, drip, dwc or aero system? Yeah? No? Would it pass for you best taste, clean, not make u sick cannabis smokers???? If not then what is the "magic" that happens in an organic heavy compost based super soil that makes that smoke so superior? No one has been able to answer me that in 20 years.

NOOOOOOO, maybe this though............http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000IS780Y/ref=twister_B00DKY36K4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

What "magic"? it's botany and photosynthesis, there is no magic.
humus, fulvic and humic acids, CEC rate, all that is where the organic "magic" happens.
Nothing spectacular man.
who have you been asking for 20 yrs?
It's simple it's the way plants have been growing for millions of yrs.
I replicate mother nature as close as possible, I use a wormbin and compost pile for damn near most of my garbage, I have solar panels for my electricity, I don't use dehumidifiers, co2 enrichment, or anything like that.
The "carbon footprint" argument is humorous.
Much, much, MUCH bigger things that will fuck the world up, before us cannabis growers.
what I am saying is that if you are intelligent about it, the impact from an organic grow is less than a hydro grow.
I am not going to argue about this. Don't really see how it's arguable.

GREAT MINDS ECHO EACH OTHER LMAO!

 

[since1991]

Why is organically grown marijuana superior to marijuana grown with mineral fertilizers?

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Why is organically grown marijuana superior to marijuana grown with mineral fertilizers?

don't you get tired of arguing?
you are killing me man.. and I know you are a knowledagble grower.
But are you now gonna tell me I don't like thin, petite, feisty, dirty-blondes, with attitudes?
(yeah, talking about you Karli)
It's a PHILOSOPHY, and a preference.
Like telling a Christian that you are agnostic/atheist....
Try and convince a religious person of that.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Why is organically grown marijuana superior to marijuana grown with mineral fertilizers?

I still am VERY willing to do a blind taste test.
Any central CA chem growers wanna step up, and we'll do the pepsi challenge.

 

[hyroot]

Minerals are not organic and not inorganic . I guess you could say minerals are neutral so to speak.

Those bottles that say derived from minerals. That's just where they sourced the base before processing and adding chemicals and preservatives and what not

Natural mineral rock dusts are essential to organic growing. They improve density and flavor of fruits - increased brix levels. Also improves cec, fungal life, and most natural mineral rock dusts are soluble as well. Of course adds trace minerals / nutrients to the soil.

 

[since1991]

I did a blind test with 4 of my patients. Ahwile ago. Experienced smokers. My uncles were growers themselves. All organic. Mostly outdoor but some indoor. Mom, dad, and 2 uncles. A couple years ago. 5 different varieties ranging from very satty doms to indica doms. They were all over the map with what they thought was organic and not. Results were inconclusive. The only one grown in a Clackamas Coot variation super soil was the ghost train. Only mom was close. They all claimed most of the strains were organic. They were all grown in the same (except ghost train haze )room with Ionic grow and bloom nutrients in coir with ec maxing out at 1.5. No flush. Just tapered down to reuse the coir the last 5 days. I dry trimmed them and cured them for 6 weeks. To the best of my ability

 

[SPLFreak808]

I did a blind test with 4 of my patients. Ahwile ago. Experienced smokers. My uncles were growers themselves. All organic. Mostly outdoor but some indoor. Mom, dad, and 2 uncles. A couple years ago. 5 different varieties ranging from very satty doms to indica doms. They were all over the map with what they thought was organic and not. Results were inconclusive. The only one grown in a Clackamas Coot variation super soil was the ghost train. Only mom was close. They all claimed most of the strains were organic. They were all grown in the same (except ghost train haze )room with Ionic grow and bloom nutrients in coir with ec maxing out at 1.5. No flush. Just tapered down to reuse the coir the last 5 days. I dry trimmed them and cured them for 6 weeks. To the best of my ability

What strain did they think was synthetic? Oggt haze?

 

[since1991]

Yeah except for my mom. She got that one rite. But.all the others werent and their choices on what was and wasnt was all over the place. I trimmed dried and cured it to really high standards. But for the most part no one got it. Mom was the only one that called out the ghost train. Not a real test but it said something to me. I would like to try it again someday.

 

[SPLFreak808]

Yeah except for my mom. She got that one rite. But.all the others werent and their choices on what was and wasnt was all over the place. I trimmed dried and cured it to really high standards. But for the most part no one got it. Mom was the only one that called out the ghost train. Not a real test but it said something to me. I would like to try it again someday.

Just asking because thats known to be a harsh strain. Potent as fuck but harsh.

 

[Sunny Organics]

Well you have all convinced me. I will drag in my wheel barrel full of super soil compost and bust out my raised beds again. And go back to organic soil in under my gavitas, mitsu split and santefe dehuey. Oh and my 1200 ppm co2 injected sealed room. So i can help out the planet, smoke "cleaner" better tasting buds so i wont get "sick". Thats how you grow indoors huh? Fuk it, Iam going back to the ways i did it years ago to get the best possible. Lol. You guys were rite. Damn. I want steak not a hamburger.

Iv'e grown some crazy fire with bottled nutes. however, everyone has their own way to grow. im staying organic until i master that shit lol. stay lifted

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I did a blind test with 4 of my patients. Ahwile ago. Experienced smokers. My uncles were growers themselves. All organic. Mostly outdoor but some indoor. Mom, dad, and 2 uncles. A couple years ago. 5 different varieties ranging from very satty doms to indica doms. They were all over the map with what they thought was organic and not. Results were inconclusive. The only one grown in a Clackamas Coot variation super soil was the ghost train. Only mom was close. They all claimed most of the strains were organic. They were all grown in the same (except ghost train haze )room with Ionic grow and bloom nutrients in coir with ec maxing out at 1.5. No flush. Just tapered down to reuse the coir the last 5 days. I dry trimmed them and cured them for 6 weeks. To the best of my ability

i'd say your last sentence was probably why they couldn't tell, you obviously understand the importance of a good cure.
BUT, not sure what an coot variation of super soil is?
If it was layered at all...
I've smoked many well grown and well cured hydro herb...
Never said it couldn't be done.
One thing to mention, (and not to kickstart this thread/argument again)
is any scientific test done with 4 people, is vastly, vastly, inconclusive.
Albeit admirable that you took the effort though.
All my statements are based simply on my experience, and maybe it's due to the hydro folk in CA being a lil more greedy or something...