The AG Can Reschedule Cannabis Without An Act Of Congress.

ChesusRice

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You keep spamming this google search. The problem is that there is still debate and picking a search result is basically confirmation bias. The thread starter on the other hand has the DOJ website with the actual CSA cited.

The president can reschedule whenever he wants to. He doesn't.
I put up the google search
you pick one
= no confirmation bias
can the president by himself legalize marijuana
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+the+president+by+himself+legalize+marijuana&ie=&oe=
 

abandonconflict

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Obama has been a staunch prohibitionist since he's been President.
No. He is not staunch. He has allowed progress to be made. He has refrained from using his appointed authority to enforce existing laws. You just sound like a teenage, cheetoh fingered, fedora wearing virgin who just finished reading The Virtue of Selfishness by Ayn Rand.
 

Glaucoma

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Good for you...
The point he is trying to make, which I also tried to make, is that f you are basing your determination on one paragraph of the CFR's, you are likely missing about 98% of the entire picture. They love using wording like "except as provided by".

I've worked within the CRF's and I can assure you that it's nothing but a clusterfuck of rabbit holes when it comes to seeing if you have the authority to carry out some action.
 

abandonconflict

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The point he is trying to make, which I also tried to make, is that f you are basing your determination on one paragraph of the CFR's, you are likely missing about 98% of the entire picture. They love using wording like "except as provided by".

I've worked within the CRF's and I can assure you that it's nothing but a clusterfuck of rabbit holes when it comes to seeing if you have the authority to carry out some action.
In post 18 I addressed the exceptions. You would know this if you had read the entire Act instead of pretending you did and assuming I didn't. The fact is, the president has full authority to reschedule, tomorrow if he wanted to.

He doesn't want to.
 

Glaucoma

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In post 18 I addressed the exceptions. You would know this if you had read the entire Act instead of pretending you did and assuming I didn't. The fact is, the president has full authority to reschedule, tomorrow if he wanted to.

He doesn't want to.
Where did I pretend to read all of anything? What I do know is that it's never as easy as you seem to think it is, especially with an issue this far reaching. Why are you getting all upiddy about this? "some counties haven't signed, or some have already broken something" is not a valid reason to just ignore federal codes. Give me a break, dude.

Are you telling me that you understand every CFR surrounding this issue? If everything has been 'proven' then where is the FDA recommendation for it?

Edit: typos
 

abandonconflict

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If everything has been 'proven' then where is the FDA reccomendation for it?
Most of your whiney rant is irrelevant and not worth responding to, so I am just going to trim it off and smack you down here. Subsection D of title 21 Part B of the CSA does not call for FDA approval or recommendation. In fact, the FDA is never even mentioned.
 
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Glaucoma

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You missed my point, obviously. If the medicinal value was proven, there'd be an FDA recommendation on it.

Also, what paragraph allows the exception because not everyone has signed a treaty/and or have broken some part of it you can just do what you want?

You are 0/2 here.
 

abandonconflict

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If the medicinal value was proven, there'd be an FDA recommendation on it.
Not necessarily. By this logic, everything FDA approved is proven to have medicinal uses and everything proven to have medicinal uses is FDA approved.

Don't get me started on peer reviewed scientific studies.

Furthermore, just because I didn't feel it was worth my time to retort to your irrelevant claim doesn't mean I can't, it means I think it is irrelevant, which it is. Even farther Furthermore, the FDA has approved Marinol, and is currently in human trials for a pediatric epilepsy drug made from CBD.
 

ttystikk

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Why would Mr Obama NOT want cannabis legalization to be his legacy? It's obviously the will of the People, most politicians would be champing at the bit to get in front of a movement that polls show over TWO THIRDS of all Americans support!
 

abandonconflict

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However, he has chosen not to reschedule. He never promised to reschedule, and he was not elected as a result of his liberal approach to cannabis. He has never been pro-legalization since he's been president. He has only expressed that he thinks the approach to prohibition was heavy handed and that it's just a bad habit but no worse than alcohol.
 

OddBall1st

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Obama is doing one of the few things he does in the best interest of the country,.. He is not interfering with the States laws so he can without Federal involvement gauge the results weather positive or negative.

It`s the smart play in this case.
 

abandonconflict

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It won't take that long to see that it hurts the cartel's money flow, which in turn reduces violence on both sides of the border. It generates tax dollars. It reduces use of other drugs, although it is not clear how this is correlated to cannabis liberalization, but it does appear to be. It is also very clearly the will of the people. It is reducing incarceration rates. It is opening the way for industrial hemp, which is a huge economic boon. Last but certainly not least, it is making it possible to study cannabis scientifically and medically. The yields of this research have enormous potential for economic as well as social benefits.
 
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