REALSTYLES 6th DIY CXA 3590 5000k DB bin

Megalomando

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Realstyles, I came on this thread and had to read the whole thing. Very nice work and it looks very effective. I have a couple questions for now & probably will have more later, it's been a long day & I'm dogged.

Where did you order your 10" x 24" heat sink from?

First time I've seen COB in a video, it looks like the light leaves as a LASER would, with beams going straight down. Wouldn't it be better to refract the light to be more equally spread?

I'm just looking at something like your lights for personal use; small scale, not wanting to make one set for veg and another for grow because of cost. Would it be useful to use different spectral range COBs for a single panel?

All I've used is HPS with Eye Hortilux throughout the grow, never used a blue for veg, Red for bloom What's your thoughts on using different cobs on one panel and if that sounds good, other than the CXB3590, which ones do your suggest for an 8 COB panel?

Thanks & again, nice job!
 

littlejacob

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Realstyles, I came on this thread and had to read the whole thing. Very nice work and it looks very effective. I have a couple questions for now & probably will have more later, it's been a long day & I'm dogged.

Where did you order your 10" x 24" heat sink from?

First time I've seen COB in a video, it looks like the light leaves as a LASER would, with beams going straight down. Wouldn't it be better to refract the light to be more equally spread?

I'm just looking at something like your lights for personal use; small scale, not wanting to make one set for veg and another for grow because of cost. Would it be useful to use different spectral range COBs for a single panel?

All I've used is HPS with Eye Hortilux throughout the grow, never used a blue for veg, Red for bloom What's your thoughts on using different cobs on one panel and if that sounds good, other than the CXB3590, which ones do your suggest for an 8 COB panel?

Thanks & again, nice job!
Bonjour
For the hs it depend if you are in US or EU...heatsinkusa or TME
If money is a concern...try Vero 29! Or cxa 3070!
You can vegg and bloom under almost all temperature...but 3500ºk is the most used!
But we need to know the size of your growbox...to tell you the minimum power you need (I do light a 3.5x3.5 with 200w atm to test but next grow will be with 400w...!)
Have a great day ★
 

littlejacob

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And one of the best advantage with cob is that you can spread the light very well...so put all the cob on the same hs seems strange to me...imo they should be 1foot from each other cause they easily light a square foot (more 1.5sq/ft @1400mA in fact) unless you drive them very low!
People should try individual pannel to know what one cob is capable of...
Have a great day ★
 

Megalomando

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Hello Littlejacob, I'm in the states so will be buying the heatsink from here. I'm deciding between making one long panel with 8 or 10 COB or making two panels with 4 or 5 COBs on them. About the only extra expense of making two instead of one is the extra fan and apparatus. the advantage of two is I can always arrange the two to be end to end or side by side. My grow area will be 4x4 feet initially, probably larger somewhat later on.

I don't want the minimal light required to be effective, I'd prefer to have much more than needed for that, not only to maximize my yield but looking to the possibility of future expansion. I remember past HPS grows when I first used one 400W Hortilux and then went to two and then finally three, all serving the same grow box and the difference was impressive. So I do want more light than is necessary.

Looking at the comments and literature it looks like the CXB3590 is the most efficient COB to go with. Electricity where I live is expensive and I want to keep the carbon footprint small as possible, given I want the max intensity that's reasonable to achieve. The Vero 29 and CXA3070 look to be excellent but since I want to do my best at this time, again the CXB3590 seems right for now. Who knows, maybe next week something even better will come out. No sense in waiting to see though, you can wait forever by doing that. ;)

I was surprised to see the videos showing how the light is coming from the COB, it was much like a laser diode or Star trek transporter beam ;) with obvious tunnels of light coming down from each COB. While the part of the plant directly underneath, getting the max light would be most happy, I wonder if it would be better to diffuse the light somewhat so all parts of the plant get a very high output.

The 3500K being most used is interesting, from what I've read, it's around 2700K for optimal flower and 6500K for veg. I'm wondering if it would be better to alternate between 3000K and 6500K Cree on the panel?

I have no idea what is "best", I'm just learning about LED and trying to make wise decisions and make my own panels. I almost bought some LED panels that sounded and looked ideal to me but learned here why they would have been a poor choice and why using the COB are a better option. So much to learn, so much reading of conflicting opinions...
 

littlejacob

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Bonjour
Those dogs are awesome!!!!
There's an US show here on TV about pit and prisoners! It is amazing to see how the dogs look happy and what the prisoners can teach the dogs in fews days!
Anyway they (I just saw one but I guess!) look happy and healthy!
If I get another animal one day...it is going to be one who live longer than me...I don't want to be sad anymore!
Have a great day ★
 

Megalomando

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Hi Realstyles, Thanks. I wanted to thank you for the offer to help but I don't see a like button in the posts.

I've been looking at options and wondering if 5 of the CXB3590 72V @ 3500K, driven by one HLG-185H-C700A would be an efficient use of the COBs I think this would work out to 36V with 5 COBs. Or would I be better with 4 COBs and one driver? Looking for the best combo of power, efficiency and longevity. - If a 5th COB would be overkill and a waste of money, I wouldn't want to do that.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/HLG-185H-C700A/?qs=%2bmCJZPMmHFNeS6l9UeqTUQ==


Any thoughts on this?

Thanks
 

REALSTYLES

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Hi Realstyles, Thanks. I wanted to thank you for the offer to help but I don't see a like button in the posts.

I've been looking at options and wondering if 5 of the CXB3590 72V @ 3500K, driven by one HLG-185H-C700A would be an efficient use of the COBs I think this would work out to 36V with 5 COBs. Or would I be better with 4 COBs and one driver? Looking for the best combo of power, efficiency and longevity. - If a 5th COB would be overkill and a waste of money, I wouldn't want to do that.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/HLG-185H-C700A/?qs=%2bmCJZPMmHFNeS6l9UeqTUQ==


Any thoughts on this?

Thanks
I use 72v 4 on 1 HLG-185H-C700A and I dim them when it's hot
 

JayY2015

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Hey do you guys know if a cxb 3590 and holder with optic lens will fit on the 3.5 inch wide heat sink ?
 

littlejacob

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Bonjour
I guess it make difference if you have as much cob as REALSTYLE have...
I will aim for some reflector when I am going to have 16 cxb in my 4x4!
You loose spread...but the light go a bit deeper and is more intense!
Have a great day ★
 

JayY2015

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Will the 4.850" ($.98 ft)heat sink on heatsink usa work or do I need the 4.900"($1.75 ) Isee there are differences in the fin length
 
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