Honey vs Molasses

kingzt

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Does anybody prefer honey over molasses when feeding your plants. I know molasses is used as a carb to feed the microbes and I am sure that is exactly what honey does also. Is there any added benefit when using honey? I use a lot of high brix molasses but have access to a lot of raw honey as well and I'm just curious to what the good folks of rollitup have to say about it, thanks
 

Morbid Angel

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No honey. It will kill benifitial microbes. Might as well water with peroxide with the intent of oxygenating your roots... Which is also not recommended (by me)
 

kingzt

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How does honey kill microbes? I thought it was microbe food?
That's what I thought also. It's just a different carb for the microbes. I know that honey can be used to fight bacteria infections when your sick but I don't think it kills beneficial bacteria in your soil. But it's good to know if that really true.
 

caveman117

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ive never used honey as a replacement for molasses but I have used it to replace cloning powder.

litterally use it just like a powder/gel. works pretty well. got 11/12 rooted with it and the one that died was totally my fault.

I cant say I know the science behind it (which I'm surprised I havemt researched), but I overheard some people talking about it for rose cuttings so I gave it a shot.
 

kingzt

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ive never used honey as a replacement for molasses but I have used it to replace cloning powder.

litterally use it just like a powder/gel. works pretty well. got 11/12 rooted with it and the one that died was totally my fault.

I cant say I know the science behind it (which I'm surprised I havemt researched), but I overheard some people talking about it for rose cuttings so I gave it a shot.
Nice I'll have to give that a try. Aloe also is another option for a cloning and cheaper too. Rip off a leaf and stick a cutting in it, making sure it gets all that goo on it.
 

testiclees

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honey does have bacteriostatic properties but those would be quickly inactivated by organic material.

honey works fine to supply energy for biota but it is not as complete as molasses.
 

Labs Dexter

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I use raw honey or as close to it as possible in all my grows at flowering stage I prefer it over molasses
This is just imo
Honey is from flowers and digest by bees. I find it helps crystal production and I use it all the way untill I chop it sweetens buds too.
I have molasses used it once and plant's don't like it and I don't like the smell or looks of it lol tho it has allot more pk than honey, but the way I see it honey is made more natural and digest well for use. That's my opinion and my technique and it works for me and my style of grow.
 

Labs Dexter

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That's awesome Dexter thanks for the input. Im going to give it a try just simultaneously, I'll still use molasses for teas and what not. I just seen a hive for bees that is made with artificial combs and the honey just drips from the box to an appropriate container. Most hives the combs are destroyed to retrieve the honey if I'm not mistaking.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-26/cedar-anderson-the-man-who-revolutionised-the-beehive/6880314
I think so I get mine from Holland and Barretts it's a zamibian forest honey,
And the other way is my mum goes to Europe allot so I asked her to get me some.
With artificial hive I boil some water
Put the jar on honey in hot water till it's runny enuff siv.
Make sure it organic and not the cheap stuff.
And start with small amounts to start off with. Hope it helps
and your welcome iv been searching for you all my life lol, I have a landrace afghani and it's packing crystals. I think it because of honey, but sweet taste is definitely.
 
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hyroot

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Molasses has nutes, sugars / carbs, food stock for microbes

It's a chelating agent and neutralizes chlorine in tap water.

Coconut water or seed sprout enzyme tea's are a much better option if you are not brewing up a compost tea

Honey attracts ants like crazy to your plants or clones don't use it.
 

Labs Dexter

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Hey I forgot to add if you like to stress your plants with what ever training, couple of watering with honey water should recover her quick. That's from my experience and that's only 5 on 6th grow. So take it easy lol
I think not scientific proof but raw honey aids with the recover making it period shorter and does wonders on crystal production side. These is what noticed it reduces stress making plats pray all the time before and after watering. Hope it works out..... or have you tried it yet?
 

Labs Dexter

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This and from my uncles advice helped me choose it. He used it as a nute for his outdoor grow. I use it for added carbs and to relieve the stress caused by me...
Tho molasses is allot richer in things it's man made, but honey comes from flowers and digested by the wonderful bees and going back to the plants.
sorry it's too long.

Grow Some Sweet Cannabis Plants with Honey
2014-02-13 - From Kitchen Product To Natural Soil Supplement

Stressed plants can be treated or prevented by cultivating the micro-herd

Using Honey As a Carbohydrate in Cannabis Cultivation
Applied in both soil and soil-less gardens, honey can be used as a natural carbohydrate in organic gardening. This ancient simple sugar source easily breaks down into a usable form to feed and support the growth of micro-flora (beneficial bacteria, fungi, etc.) and helps them to flourish. This, in turn, increases the plant's vitality and vigor, as the micro-herd is essential in allowing the plant to uptake and process nutrients in usable forms. Stressed plants may be returned to a stronger, more stable state and those on the verge may be brought back, preventing heavy stress from occurring.




Quillaja saponaria or soap bark tree, extracts of which can be combined with honey to make natural supplements [Credit: Franz Xaver]

Rather than being used on its own, honey is typically combined with other natural substances to create a super fertilizer mix; many commercial companies do produce these mixes but home growers may create such recipes on their own. You can browse gardening books or experiment to create your own super mix. Alternate ingredients that act as organic carbon sources include, but are not limited to: amino acids, pure cane molasses, yucca extract, montmorillonite (a clay mineral composite containing around seventy trace elements), volcanic ash, soap bark extract (Quillaja saponaria) and extracts from certain sea plants.

Dosage varies, but carbohydrate mixes are typically applied at a rate of five to fifteen milliliters per gallon of water. Always read the label before applying, especially when using a new product in your garden.

One tablespoon of honey contains about sixty-four calories and about seventeen grams of carbohydrates, the majority of which are from sugars. A tiny bit of sucrose combines with a slightly larger volume of glucose; the bulk of the sugars in honey are fructose. Honey helps to raise the Brix levels in fruiting plants; this boost in plant sugar levels can increase fruiting and flowering. In addition, the flowers and fruits produced will be sweeter and their aroma and flavor will intensify and improve.




Cannabis cuttings can be rooted with honey in place of hormones

Honey Provides Natural Rooting Assistance
A perhaps lesser-known application of honey in gardening regards rooting cuttings or clones. Cannabis cuttings are usually dipped in rooting hormones before being placed into rockwool cubes, seedling plugs, etc., but those who wish to keep a low chemical content in their garden may want to consider trying honey instead of hormones. Clones are trimmed according to the normal method, scarred or sliced towards the cut end (if you so choose) and dipped between one and two centimeters into a fresh, clean cap-full or small cup of honey - a cold medicine measuring cup is often ideal for this purpose if you do not have a nutrient measure.

Place the cuttings into the rooting medium as you would if using hormones. The rooting time may be slightly longer than it is when using chemicals; however, some strains simply root faster than others and you may notice no difference at all.

While it may seem counterproductive to apply a straight sugar source to plants and soil, the honey acts as an anti-microbial and anti-fungicidal agent, protecting the cuttings against invading pathogens and increasing your chances of success. 'Damping off' is the easiest way to lose fragile clones, and honey's fantastic antiseptic properties decrease the opportunity for such nefarious opportunists to take hold. Be certain to use real, organic honey if possible and always keep gardening implements and areas clean.

Other Benefits of Having Honey in Your Home
Some gardeners prefer to implement multipurpose agents in their crops and honey offers many alternate uses in the home. While high quality, organic honey may be costly, bulk purchasing can save money in the end, and the honey may be applied to non-plant areas of your life as well. You can bathe with the amber liquid and use it as an anti-bacterial soap and moisturizer or treat acne and other skin issues, such as abrasions, skin rashes and burns. For the latter, apply a thin layer as you would a salve or ointment; sprinkle a fine layer of cornstarch over the affected area or apply a dressing or bandage.

Oral care applications include cleaning teeth, treatment of mouth sores, bleeding gums, etc. when using raw honey as a mouth wash. Treat your hair and scalp to an at-home spa day by applying raw honey a half hour before washing your hair. Some people use local honey to inoculate themselves against pollen in their immediate environment, lessening the effects of seasonal hay fever. Tests are even being conducted to prove the anti-tumor properties that honey possesses, as well as the ability to prevent certain diseases. Honey has a long shelf life, as it never spoils, thus it can also be used as a preservative.

A Word of Warning Before Embarking Upon Honey Application in Your Garden
These days, not all honey is true or clean. Sometimes beneficial pollen has been processed out and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) may have been added. Thoroughly inspect product labels and make sure to source an ethically-produced variety, as many honeybee populations are dwindling or threatened around the world. Naturally, you might shy away from using the most expensive honey available as a carbohydrate source or in rooting cuttings, but if you manage to purchase a decent variety or in bulk, honey serves multiple purposes, allowing you to get the most for your money.

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anzohaze

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Hey I forgot to add if you like to stress your plants with what ever training, couple of watering with honey water should recover her quick. That's from my experience and that's only 5 on 6th grow. So take it easy lol
I think not scientific proof but raw honey aids with the recover making it period shorter and does wonders on crystal production side. These is what noticed it reduces stress making plats pray all the time before and after watering. Hope it works out..... or have you tried it yet?
I use honey to put on a broken branch or stem to help seal up the wound and then use whatever I have o put back together
 

Labs Dexter

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Molasses has nutes, sugars / carbs, food stock for microbes

It's a chelating agent and neutralizes chlorine in tap water.

Coconut water or seed sprout enzyme tea's are a much better option if you are not brewing up a compost tea

Honey attracts ants like crazy to your plants or clones don't use it.
Put some cinnamon powder around you plants to stop that mate it works a treat for my dog and ants on my outdoors vegetables.
 

kingzt

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Hey thanks for all the useful info!! I love honey, I use in smoothies, tea, cooking etc. Figured why not try and benefit to the plants as well. I just gave some to some veg plants that I had before reading what you wrote. They were a little stressed after transplanting so I hoping the honey eases their way back to full health.
 

Labs Dexter

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For me I defoiliate and at the moment temps are going up and down I am pulling outside air.. With honey in my routine it hasn't bothered this grow lol either they are hardy or its the honey lmao. One spoon for me one for them
 
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