VTMi'kmaq
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Random misinformation like this is why folks get twisted.....not kool imho.
Honey vs Molasses
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Labs Dexter
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I'll be doing that next summer ad fun for me and my kids lmao thanks for that info you made my day.
At school we used to do it to pigeons loool watch em pop and bits flying from the explosion in their chest.
Tho I would not recommend anyone to harm birds or any animals
VTMi'kmaq
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This and from my uncles advice helped me choose it. He used it as a nute for his outdoor grow. I use it for added carbs and to relieve the stress caused by me...
Tho molasses is allot richer in things it's man made, but honey comes from flowers and digested by the wonderful bees and going back to the plants.
sorry it's too long.
Grow Some Sweet Cannabis Plants with Honey
2014-02-13 - From Kitchen Product To Natural Soil Supplement
Stressed plants can be treated or prevented by cultivating the micro-herd
Using Honey As a Carbohydrate in Cannabis Cultivation
Applied in both soil and soil-less gardens, honey can be used as a natural carbohydrate in organic gardening. This ancient simple sugar source easily breaks down into a usable form to feed and support the growth of micro-flora (beneficial bacteria, fungi, etc.) and helps them to flourish. This, in turn, increases the plant's vitality and vigor, as the micro-herd is essential in allowing the plant to uptake and process nutrients in usable forms. Stressed plants may be returned to a stronger, more stable state and those on the verge may be brought back, preventing heavy stress from occurring.
Quillaja saponaria or soap bark tree, extracts of which can be combined with honey to make natural supplements [Credit: Franz Xaver]
Rather than being used on its own, honey is typically combined with other natural substances to create a super fertilizer mix; many commercial companies do produce these mixes but home growers may create such recipes on their own. You can browse gardening books or experiment to create your own super mix. Alternate ingredients that act as organic carbon sources include, but are not limited to: amino acids, pure cane molasses, yucca extract, montmorillonite (a clay mineral composite containing around seventy trace elements), volcanic ash, soap bark extract (Quillaja saponaria) and extracts from certain sea plants.
Dosage varies, but carbohydrate mixes are typically applied at a rate of five to fifteen milliliters per gallon of water. Always read the label before applying, especially when using a new product in your garden.
One tablespoon of honey contains about sixty-four calories and about seventeen grams of carbohydrates, the majority of which are from sugars. A tiny bit of sucrose combines with a slightly larger volume of glucose; the bulk of the sugars in honey are fructose. Honey helps to raise the Brix levels in fruiting plants; this boost in plant sugar levels can increase fruiting and flowering. In addition, the flowers and fruits produced will be sweeter and their aroma and flavor will intensify and improve.
Cannabis cuttings can be rooted with honey in place of hormones
Honey Provides Natural Rooting Assistance
A perhaps lesser-known application of honey in gardening regards rooting cuttings or clones. Cannabis cuttings are usually dipped in rooting hormones before being placed into rockwool cubes, seedling plugs, etc., but those who wish to keep a low chemical content in their garden may want to consider trying honey instead of hormones. Clones are trimmed according to the normal method, scarred or sliced towards the cut end (if you so choose) and dipped between one and two centimeters into a fresh, clean cap-full or small cup of honey - a cold medicine measuring cup is often ideal for this purpose if you do not have a nutrient measure.
Place the cuttings into the rooting medium as you would if using hormones. The rooting time may be slightly longer than it is when using chemicals; however, some strains simply root faster than others and you may notice no difference at all.
While it may seem counterproductive to apply a straight sugar source to plants and soil, the honey acts as an anti-microbial and anti-fungicidal agent, protecting the cuttings against invading pathogens and increasing your chances of success. 'Damping off' is the easiest way to lose fragile clones, and honey's fantastic antiseptic properties decrease the opportunity for such nefarious opportunists to take hold. Be certain to use real, organic honey if possible and always keep gardening implements and areas clean.
Other Benefits of Having Honey in Your Home
Some gardeners prefer to implement multipurpose agents in their crops and honey offers many alternate uses in the home. While high quality, organic honey may be costly, bulk purchasing can save money in the end, and the honey may be applied to non-plant areas of your life as well. You can bathe with the amber liquid and use it as an anti-bacterial soap and moisturizer or treat acne and other skin issues, such as abrasions, skin rashes and burns. For the latter, apply a thin layer as you would a salve or ointment; sprinkle a fine layer of cornstarch over the affected area or apply a dressing or bandage.
Oral care applications include cleaning teeth, treatment of mouth sores, bleeding gums, etc. when using raw honey as a mouth wash. Treat your hair and scalp to an at-home spa day by applying raw honey a half hour before washing your hair. Some people use local honey to inoculate themselves against pollen in their immediate environment, lessening the effects of seasonal hay fever. Tests are even being conducted to prove the anti-tumor properties that honey possesses, as well as the ability to prevent certain diseases. Honey has a long shelf life, as it never spoils, thus it can also be used as a preservative.
A Word of Warning Before Embarking Upon Honey Application in Your Garden
These days, not all honey is true or clean. Sometimes beneficial pollen has been processed out and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) may have been added. Thoroughly inspect product labels and make sure to source an ethically-produced variety, as many honeybee populations are dwindling or threatened around the world. Naturally, you might shy away from using the most expensive honey available as a carbohydrate source or in rooting cuttings, but if you manage to purchase a decent variety or in bulk, honey serves multiple purposes, allowing you to get the most for your money.
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IMHO anything that increases brix levels is a fucken bonus1
hotrodharley
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The neat thing about the Borax is they carry it back to the old ant farm where they all eat it and croak.
Labs Dexter
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What's Brix lol sorry for me noobness
VTMi'kmaq
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Ive heard whispers from the elders about honey..........i believe its benefical, or it wouldnt be in my household......
Labs Dexter
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You legend send me some lol
Labs Dexter
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Oohh so explains the stress reduction from my doing to mj.
Since I been using honey three grows ago I realised that I don't seem to get em stressed as easily, and was only hit with pk from under feeding...
Now I'm in tune with my nutes this and the last grow the plants were praying nearly every single day before or after a good watering with run off.
I think more studies should be done. But I for one love honey and so do my plants and the best thing I use it until the day I chop and does not affect the smoke if anything they are ( sweeter and potent.)
I put that like that because it's what I think from my grows so I'm a 1% out off how ever meny that thinks that.
Labs Dexter
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I'm just off to get some more honey lol the kids finished that last jar, gotta share for my porridge and kids porridge and the wife's craving and my lady's on the side (plants) lmao hard life
Brb and I'll post the one I get
Brb and I'll post the one I get
Labs Dexter
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Nowt wrong with that mate I'm 27 and still having it for breakfast not the yogurt tho lol, but porridge is what made me and still makes me strong plus the honey I go ADHD lol.
Once I recon you are used to that type of breakfast, the rest don't really fill you up or you don't feel full.
And I think the honey makes my plant pray like it's Sunday every day.
Labs Dexter
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this is my prize advanced nutes for £3 Made by the bees and came from flowers and goes back into my flowers lool.
kingzt
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I get raw honey, know several bee keeper. I have more I know what to do with it, since a little goes a long way haha.
Morbid Angel
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Well when I looked into this a few years ago, it was not recommended by some more experienced people than myself and it was stated that it would kill beneficial microbes. I tried using it before i looked into it and I didnt notice anything beneficial.
So I simply re instated my personal findings and what I had been told as well. I said I didnt recommend it, not 'dont do it man' So fuck what ever. Lots of shit out there is vouched for that is not good, and some that isnt and is. I aint fucking Weed Jesus.
Fuck CFL and LED where not recommended at a point either and some would claim that horrible "misinformation" now days.
... not cool... pff.
*It hasnt done anything for me thats not way more out done by other things. I still dont believe there is a benefit and I still dont recommend it. But its not my grow. Maybe others like Labs find it useful, maybe there are strains that work better with it. Its an opinion. This is a forum where opinions and experiences are shared and debated. All I have seen so far in this thread are opinions, like yours. /edit
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testiclees
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thats like saying turkey tails make your butt grow bigger.
if adding a form of sugar to your cannabis nutrition was all it took to grow high brix produce there would be high brix stuff everywhere. But there isnt.
Attaining high brix values in your flowers is about minerals, foliars, biology etc
420 has a lot of brix info and good threads on ic too.
Labs Dexter
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I mix a table spoon in 14 ltr to start off then gradually 5 ml per 3 ltrs.
It's worked on herbies afghan, deep cheese by dinafem, the church by GHS, Painkiller by underground, I had some random bag seeds aswel that it worked on I have cloned 2 times not using honey to clone lol. Clonex
Molasses is the same as honey but it didn't do nothing for me it drooped my plants for a full weekso I scrapped it, might just be the English black strap no good lol.
So my uncle has grown mj out doors all his life and his nutrients for his outdoor garden was honey from the hive mixed in water then poured to his plants and crushed eggshells lol, I called him after not successful grows hit by pk every time lol, and he told me to do what I'm doing now just add nutes because indoor they need more food.
So I did allot of research and found that page that I posted and used honey since. But raw honey.
I bet you didn't know crushed eggshells is good source of calcium for mj plant.
People will not mention these things for simple fact is others will shoot ya for saying honey, they all want you to go to shop and spend money. That's my honest opinion. I did mention that honey suitable for my grow style and the strains I have grown so far. We all have our little old wife's tricks I'm just glad I found one that suited me and my plants. Hope you find your solution mate.
Labs Dexter
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If anything molasses has better sugar, P and K and allot more but it's man made and heated the goodness out. Imo
But I think honey is better for my plants because the nectar naturally come from flowers and has better anti bacterial properties and sugars that gets in (my plants quick).
That's just from my researched, what I think and found out by trying.
Not pushing no one to use it but I would recommend.
If you buy cheep honey or honey that's been messed about with to get rid of pollen then you will see bad effects.
But get good shit you see good things, mine is full of the pollen still and only been heated to 42 degrees.
If you have a hive it's better but all the gmo and what not it's better to double check because they could cause problems..
some honey have carry bad things in it just read the jar before you go for it.
If molasses works for your growing style and works for your plants I would recommend that instead of raw honey.
But if that doesn't work then honey is you options or you could buy your nutes as you please.
But I think honey is better for my plants because the nectar naturally come from flowers and has better anti bacterial properties and sugars that gets in (my plants quick).
That's just from my researched, what I think and found out by trying.
Not pushing no one to use it but I would recommend.
If you buy cheep honey or honey that's been messed about with to get rid of pollen then you will see bad effects.
But get good shit you see good things, mine is full of the pollen still and only been heated to 42 degrees.
If you have a hive it's better but all the gmo and what not it's better to double check because they could cause problems..
some honey have carry bad things in it just read the jar before you go for it.
If molasses works for your growing style and works for your plants I would recommend that instead of raw honey.
But if that doesn't work then honey is you options or you could buy your nutes as you please.
VTMi'kmaq
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See i don't have to navigate cannbis site to understand brix levels testicles, i ask folks at http://www.uvm.edu/~hortfarm/, I don't listen to most of these, so-called "growers" i'd rahter base my info off folks that have in interest in plants BEYOND cannabis! As for your analogy of turkey tails, that's an opinion, and one that i don't give any energy too, cause it's plain wrong!