First time grower - i picked organic style

[greasemonkeymann]

Good luck to you too, sir! no Perlite you say? may i ask why, this is literately my first time growing, not just organically.
thanks for the support my man!

10% wood ash is way too much man, I speculate your ph is alkaline.
I also agree with the others, the container is too big, and it'll hold too much water for that plant to be happy

 

[yellowsunday]

10% wood ash is way too much man, I speculate your ph is alkaline.
I also agree with the others, the container is too big, and it'll hold too much water for that plant to be happy

i need to bloody get a soil ph test kit, cant afford it right now. i doubt it was 10% bro, to be honest it was probably much lower, i didnt measure anything, ive got some seeds that came up pretty quickly in the exact same soil mix, they seem to be loving it. cheers for the reply though man, how much are Ph testers where you are located, around my local area theyre $40 + might get one off the net?
i regret putting it in that pot, i was going to transfer it out again but didnt want to mess with it more than it already has been messed with in its life haha, the container is holding too much water though and its been raining the last few days, wheres the sun!? hope it doesnt get sick because of the excess moisture.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

i need to bloody get a soil ph test kit, cant afford it right now. i doubt it was 10% bro, to be honest it was probably much lower, i didnt measure anything, ive got some seeds that came up pretty quickly in the exact same soil mix, they seem to be loving it. cheers for the reply though man, how much are Ph testers where you are located, around my local area theyre $40 + might get one off the net?
i regret putting it in that pot, i was going to transfer it out again but didnt want to mess with it more than it already has been messed with in its life haha, the container is holding too much water though and its been raining the last few days, wheres the sun!? hope it doesnt get sick because of the excess moisture.

couldn't tell ya man, I haven't ph'ed a damn thing in decades.
I do know that wood ashes are a great thing to add to an organic soil, but can lead to problems in a soil that isn't more acidic in nature (peat based, for example)
as shitty as it sounds, if it were me, i'd transplant that lil gal immediately, but be careful, unless you are really good, you're going to damage those roots, as they aren't developed and likely not healthy either.

 

[yellowsunday]

couldn't tell ya man, I haven't ph'ed a damn thing in decades.
I do know that wood ashes are a great thing to add to an organic soil, but can lead to problems in a soil that isn't more acidic in nature (peat based, for example)
as shitty as it sounds, if it were me, i'd transplant that lil gal immediately, but be careful, unless you are really good, you're going to damage those roots, as they aren't developed and likely not healthy either.

haha all good mate!
i am using a generic organic potting mix which from what ive read are normally more acidic, they seem to be loving it so far - the lil ones that is.
i think i might, i saved her from the ground and i know how delicate they can be, i will be careful.
ill post a photo later on today

 

[yellowsunday]

couldn't tell ya man, I haven't ph'ed a damn thing in decades.
I do know that wood ashes are a great thing to add to an organic soil, but can lead to problems in a soil that isn't more acidic in nature (peat based, for example)
as shitty as it sounds, if it were me, i'd transplant that lil gal immediately, but be careful, unless you are really good, you're going to damage those roots, as they aren't developed and likely not healthy either.

fingers crossed she survives, i think the soil(sandy) i originally planted her in gets way too hot, i couldn't remove it all but i tried to remove some, hopefully this pot helps. cheers for the advice

 

[SupraSPL]

And i personally dont use smart pots or grow bags. Never had the results i wanted with them. I think it is how much moisture sas being leeched from my soil from all sides. Idk. Done side by sides and hard pots with well draining bottums work best for me.

Ya I did some side by side fabric pots vs buckets and saw no improvement by using fabric.

The "three little birds" organic soil tutorial from way back said they were able to use no drain with their recycled soil. So I have been using no-drain with ROLS and it does work. My ladies tend to need all the fertility they can get because I run into early fade quite a bit. BUT do you think no drain is really ideal for ROLS or could there be a big benefit with a slight runoff? (I always hoist the bucket to determine when each is thristy to avoid swamping them)

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Ya I did some side by side fabric pots vs buckets and saw no improvement by using fabric.

The "three little birds" organic soil tutorial from way back said they were able to use no drain with their recycled soil. So I have been using no-drain with ROLS and it does work. My ladies tend to need all the fertility they can get because I run into early fade quite a bit. BUT do you think no drain is really ideal for ROLS or could there be a big benefit with a slight runoff? (I always hoist the bucket to determine when each is thristy to avoid swamping them)

my watering practices are a bit sloppu atm. Getting hard to get everwhere i need to. Ill have a snall anount of runoff in smaller pots. Never see any in larger notills though. I can get away with 1 galon of water a week for 5 gallon pots. Split up inton2 or 3 waterings

 

[greasemonkeymann]

my watering practices are a bit sloppu atm. Getting hard to get everwhere i need to. Ill have a snall anount of runoff in smaller pots. Never see any in larger notills though. I can get away with 1 galon of water a week for 5 gallon pots. Split up inton2 or 3 waterings

i firmly believe the plants should get a thorough watering at least every 15 to 20 days, till runoff.
pretend it's raining for the plant, I like to mist them at that time as well.
Obviously not during flowering, but that should go without saying..

 

[whitebb2727]

I quit using perlite. I use sand now. 1/3 sand, loam, and clay. No clay though.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

I quit using perlite. I use sand now. 1/3 sand, loam, and clay. No clay though.

sand is some good shit to use, I used it for years when I lived on top of a mountain that had windy ass winds...
I found the tall sativas I was liking at the time to act like a friggin kite..
so some sand in the mix was heavy enough to make the difference, also it seems to really help with soil tension, and hygrophobic soil tendencies when they dry

 

[whitebb2727]

sand is some good shit to use, I used it for years when I lived on top of a mountain that had windy ass winds...
I found the tall sativas I was liking at the time to act like a friggin kite..
so some sand in the mix was heavy enough to make the difference, also it seems to really help with soil tension, and hygrophobic soil tendencies when they dry

It is abundant here in the mountains. I like good river sand.

 

[ShLUbY]

It is abundant here in the mountains. I like good river sand.

i live by lake huron, i've thought about gettin some beach sand for my mixes as well. we have such a diverse geology here because of the glaciers here in MI too. but there is a lot of silica in our sand, and that's how i thought it'd help my soil the most. i know it doesn't dissolve a lot, but a little at a time is what we like anyway

 

[whitebb2727]

i live by lake huron, i've thought about gettin some beach sand for my mixes as well. we have such a diverse geology here because of the glaciers here in MI too. but there is a lot of silica in our sand, and that's how i thought it'd help my soil the most. i know it doesn't dissolve a lot, but a little at a time is what we like anyway

I like sand because its good for drainage and it doesn't compact. It is good to add to heavy clay soils. My veggie garden is in ground that is heavy in clay. We brought several tons of it in to cut it. We also tilled in 4-5 truck loads of composted manure. After that we went no till.