Bio Diesel F2's incoming

OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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ttystikk said:
Is 303 Seeds affiliated with Denver Relief? They're the ones who need, named and won the Colorado Cannabis Cup with Bio Diesel some seven years ago. I tried to get the strain from them then several times but they were tight fisting it.

I'd like to be a tester if it isn't too late.
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I'd love to have ya. Yes, same gear same guys AFAIK but I am no expert. I have the packs still I should probably toss a pic up of them. Just send me your email.
 
ActionHanks

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The guys at 303 are still putting out work in Colo yeah? I wish they'd startup a puppet company and move some of their lines out to the rest of the world. If youre still looking for folks to run the F2s OGEvil, im about to shoot you a PM.
Ive been out of the loop lately due to temps, but its finally starting to dip below 80 at night around my neck of the woods.
 
zimyh810

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I would love to test some of those fine specimens I have tons of room to really see what they can do
 
OGEvilgenius

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Some of the first seeds have been harvested - just gotta sort them out of the buds and dry them etc.

On another interesting note - I put my girls into my tent sometime near the end of Sept. First Sugar Punch girl has some amber trichs already. That's insane. Fastest plant I've ever seen - and it's frosty as hell. Oh, and unlike my other fast SP - it's got great structure and seems like it will yield pretty well. And it smells awesome.

I had the date in my head around the 28th - I admit to not writing it down. I'm thinking it was closer to the middle though as if it were the 28th that would make this plant 5 weeks old. I think it must have been around a week earlier. I'm gonna be running clones soon anyway and will take a closer look at the time.
 
OGEvilgenius

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Here's some pictures...

One of the Bio Diesel tops:




Sugar Punch top just cut - I'm gonna say it's closer to 42 days than 35. But not a lot.



Another different even frostier sugar punch - that smells fucking incredible like sweet grape candy awesomeness - top - not huge but frostttty:



And a bottom from the same plant:



Some GSC Chimera S1 porn while we're at it:





And a little leaf nugget on the best looking GSC specimen:



And finally a real nice and frosty looking Shackzilla - pic not the best doesn't exactly do it justice:

 
OGEvilgenius

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Btw yes I did see the mildew in the picture above... I have been treating it with UVC light quite successfully. I have to say though I'm quite tired of having a non sealed room. Makes things difficult. Going to be attempting to do something right in the next year or so to get complete environmental control going.
 
OGEvilgenius

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greenghost420 said:
i didnt even notice it. if your having mildew troubles, try bonide infuse, can be used until week 4 of flower . i havent had mildew since i first foliared back in like may.http://www.amazon.com/Bonide-148-Infuse-System-Fungicide/dp/B000BQ7T1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446616184&sr=8-1&keywords=bonide infuse
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Looks similar to Eagle 20. Not sure I'd trust it. A lot of times they say it's fine for edible crops but smoking is different. I actually don't think it's fine for edibles either personally as a lot of them are hormone mimics.

The UVC requires daily use but it is keeping it under control and it will kill any spots that break out.

I've been slacking on my silicone inputs a bit as well. And I also tend to put plants I run for the first time through a bit of hell to get a bead on how they will respond.

Ultimately I gotta get my environment on lock down though. The humidity here was insane for about a week, we had periods where it just dumping truck loads of rain and that's when it all came around. Was also cooler outside so you know it loves that.

I'm also running a bunch of organic nutrients and I don't imagine a systemic fungicide would be helpful in my root zone.

The PM is in the top left corner. Harder to notice it because it's actually dead (was killed by UVC). But obviously PM doesn't work exactly like that and so it's still there.


Easy to kill it on clones with this light. Very easy. Large plants it's more annoying as you gotta get in and under etc.
 
astronomikl

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very interesting this thread and the fact that you are preserving this line. I will be along for the ride and if you need any other testers I would love to help
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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OGEvilgenius said:
Looks similar to Eagle 20. Not sure I'd trust it. A lot of times they say it's fine for edible crops but smoking is different. I actually don't think it's fine for edibles either personally as a lot of them are hormone mimics.

The UVC requires daily use but it is keeping it under control and it will kill any spots that break out.

I've been slacking on my silicone inputs a bit as well. And I also tend to put plants I run for the first time through a bit of hell to get a bead on how they will respond.

Ultimately I gotta get my environment on lock down though. The humidity here was insane for about a week, we had periods where it just dumping truck loads of rain and that's when it all came around. Was also cooler outside so you know it loves that.

I'm also running a bunch of organic nutrients and I don't imagine a systemic fungicide would be helpful in my root zone.

The PM is in the top left corner. Harder to notice it because it's actually dead (was killed by UVC). But obviously PM doesn't work exactly like that and so it's still there.


Easy to kill it on clones with this light. Very easy. Large plants it's more annoying as you gotta get in and under etc.
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What kind of UVC light source are you using? This makes me wonder how pm can live outside in sunlight?
 
OGEvilgenius

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ttystikk said:
What kind of UVC light source are you using? This makes me wonder how pm can live outside in sunlight?
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There isn't much UVC put out by the sun (actually there's shit loads but our atmosphere protects us from it). There's actually basically nothing in some regions, more in some regions (some regions don't have major problems with PM mind you as well).

I bought a clean light. It's a higher intensity source than the sun is though in most areas.

Anyway in my experience PM is much less a problem outdoors and never a problem during the summer months when light intensity is high. Just my experience mind you.

Using this light is quite time consuming though so it's not going to be the best solution for all situations. The best solution is a perfect environment with perfect plant health but like I said I'm dealing with the outside weather because I don't have a sealed room and extract air outside. And of course perfect plant health. But first run of all of these hard to get it all correct especially with all the different phenotypes.
 
ttystikk

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OGEvilgenius said:
There isn't much UVC put out by the sun (actually there's shit loads but our atmosphere protects us from it). There's actually basically nothing in some regions, more in some regions (some regions don't have major problems with PM mind you as well).

I bought a clean light. It's a higher intensity source than the sun is though in most areas.

Anyway in my experience PM is much less a problem outdoors and never a problem during the summer months when light intensity is high. Just my experience mind you.

Using this light is quite time consuming though so it's not going to be the best solution for all situations. The best solution is a perfect environment with perfect plant health but like I said I'm dealing with the outside weather because I don't have a sealed room and extract air outside. And of course perfect plant health. But first run of all of these hard to get it all correct especially with all the different phenotypes.
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Clean light? I haven't heard of it. Brand? Link so I can bone up on it?

Powdery mildew, along with spidermites, are the two biggest pests in Colorado. You can go outside and look at your lawn to see why; the dandelions are covered in spidermites and the bindweed is covered in PM! This in high summer with plenty of sunlight, low humidity. Rain actually knocks the PM down.
 
OGEvilgenius

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ttystikk said:
Clean light? I haven't heard of it. Brand? Link so I can bone up on it?

Powdery mildew, along with spidermites, are the two biggest pests in Colorado. You can go outside and look at your lawn to see why; the dandelions are covered in spidermites and the bindweed is covered in PM! This in high summer with plenty of sunlight, low humidity. Rain actually knocks the PM down.
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Clean Light is the brand. Rain knocks the spores and canidia off but the PM remains. Some things are pretty susceptible to it as well. And Colorado isn't south enough to get much UVC light anyway. The northern Hemisphere has low UV light intensity in general. The further north you go the lower it tends to get. It varies of course a bit, but the general rule is there.

There are a lot of variables outside to take into account on top of plant variables. Some varieties are a lot more susceptible. The spores are not killed by this light. Which is why you have to keep it up. Only the canidia are killed by the light. They also make a room cleaner that will kill the spores based on the same tech, but it's higher intensity I think and may not be any different than other UVC room air purifiers you can buy.

The light is overpriced (well, I guess not... they got me heheh) but I didn't want to build one myself.

@ttystikk

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I should also add there are a bunch of different varieties of PM depending on region. Some varieties thrive in high heat and low humidity. The kind common in BC does not.
 
ttystikk

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OGEvilgenius said:
Clean Light is the brand. Rain knocks the spores and canidia off but the PM remains. Some things are pretty susceptible to it as well. And Colorado isn't south enough to get much UVC light anyway. The northern Hemisphere has low UV light intensity in general. The further north you go the lower it tends to get. It varies of course a bit, but the general rule is there.

There are a lot of variables outside to take into account on top of plant variables. Some varieties are a lot more susceptible. The spores are not killed by this light. Which is why you have to keep it up. Only the canidia are killed by the light. They also make a room cleaner that will kill the spores based on the same tech, but it's higher intensity I think and may not be any different than other UVC room air purifiers you can buy.

The light is overpriced (well, I guess not... they got me heheh) but I didn't want to build one myself.

I should also add there are a bunch of different varieties of PM depending on region. Some varieties thrive in high heat and low humidity. The kind common in BC does not.
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Colorado may be north, but it's also high altitude and dry so UV definitely gets through. You know that UV scale on the weather channel, how it goes from one to ten? We often score FOURTEEN, LOL
 
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