"Today capitalism has outlived its usefulness" discuss!

[ASCIIGHOST]

Why do you argue this constantly?

What religion, cult, or drug makes you think a world of people could coexist better without rules and boundaries?

If we were back in the 1700s and we're native Americans or early settlers, then yes, what you talk about would work.

Except they realized with out a middle man roads/railroads/highways would not be built.

Your world ideas will never happen.

 

[Flaming Pie]

No. It is very different.

Most individuals do not have the funds to build a road. If a private individual builds a road, there will be tolls.

Roads increase commerce and the communication of ideas. It is one of the most basic functions of government.

Try looking to countries without major road systems and see how they are doing.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Socialism does not account for testosterone and the males natural tendency to be greedy, selfish, and destructive anyway. Traditionally it was through war, and conquest. Ahhhh the spoils of war. These days men have wised up and realized being civil leads to far more pussy. As I have said before, the nordic model relys heavily on free markets, and all the community college drop outs who some how fell into Marxist ways need to recognize their Godlessness, and accept that human behavior will never be steered in the right direction by a set of morals set forth by the government.

Because the morals set forth by man have been oh so much better!

Morals are not derived from God or from man, but from reason and reason alone.

Those that condemn reason as immoral or "ungodly" can go fuck themselves

Socialism, specifically Democratic Socialism, relies on the rule of law of the common people. Almost utilitarian in its essence, except not, because sometimes, the benefit of the many doesn't actually benefit the most. To have a truly egalitarian society based on objective morals and reason requires one to abandon traditional moral reasoning and condemn those that would force it upon the rest of us. In short - fuck those people.


Modern democratic socialists are extremely educated, we've studied history and economics, we've studied every single social society since socialism was invented. We've studied capitalism, all of its triumphs and all of its failures and we're not afraid to criticize it or commemorate it. Many self-proclaimed "socialist societies" have failed in the name of authoritarianism (can you name a single one that has failed that wasn't authoritarian? I bet you can't. Why is that? Maybe because it's the authoritarian aspect that failed, not the socially democratic one..

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

No. It is very different.

Most individuals do not have the funds to build a road. If a private individual builds a road, there will be tolls.

Roads increase commerce and the communication of ideas. It is one of the most basic functions of government.

Try looking to countries without major road systems and see how they are doing.

corporations are people, and people are corporations. so yes, most individuals do have the funds to build roads. slavery is not an individual. its a pretty large group of people spanning generations. you're stupid, and im not. its that simple.

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

Because the morals set forth by man have been oh so much better!

Morals are not derived from God or from man, but from reason and reason alone.

Those that condemn reason as immoral or "ungodly" can go fuck themselves

Socialism, specifically Democratic Socialism, relies on the rule of law of the common people. Almost utilitarian in its essence, except not, because sometimes, the benefit of the many doesn't actually benefit the most. To have a truly egalitarian society based on objective morals and reason requires one to abandon traditional moral reasoning and condemn those that would force it upon the rest of us. In short - fuck those people.

Modern democratic socialists are extremely educated, we've studied history and economics, we've studied every single social society since socialism was invented. We've studied capitalism, all of its triumphs and all of its failures and we're not afraid to criticize it or commemorate it. Many self-proclaimed "socialist societies" have failed in the name of authoritarianism (can you name a single one that has failed that wasn't authoritarian? I bet you can't. Why is that? Maybe because it's the authoritarian aspect that failed, not the socially democratic one..

And where is reason derived from?

I'm not going to take the time to address anything else you've said because Ive destroyed you in thread after thread, and you dont respond, so why should I give you the courtesy of a response? If I did put the energy in to destroy you (again) I'm sure you'd just ignore facts, or twist in someway so you can continue thinking your way is right. I am always open minded enough to understand the opposition. In fact that open mindedness is how I became a reformed socialist from the shitty state of Wisconsin. You probably still live 30 miles from where you were born.

Ron Paul would beat Bernie Sanders in a fist fight, a battle of wits, in a debate, and his wife is hotter.

 

[potroastV2]

Many of us recognize your grandiose delusions as an indication of mental instability.

 

[heckler73]

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

Many of us recognize your grandiose delusions as an indication of mental instability.

You're what? 60? In California, and so far removed from the counter culture. All you do to feel like you're a part of it, even hosting this forum. When you compare the growing info here, to other international forums there is no comparison. This is just a platform to stroke your over inflated ego, and polarize yourself further from the true counter culture that is struggling to survive. @rollitup I'm sure its not so much your lack of intellect as much as it is your lack of testosterone. Chalk it up to getting old, and let the counter culture run its own ship, time to relieve yourself as captain.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I'm not going to take the time to address anything else you've said

You assume I care

Paul couldn't reason his way out of a wet paper bag in regards to economics

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

You assume I care

Paul couldn't reason his way out of a wet paper bag in regards to economics

I had to stop it when Krugman laughed off the monopoly on currency claiming people can barter. Yeah...because I want to get paid in chicken eggs by my employer.

Your brain is ruled by estrogen, and not testosterone. Seek medical attention.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I had to stop it when Krugman laughed off the monopoly on currency claiming people can barter. Yeah...because I want to get paid in chicken eggs by my employer.

Your brain is ruled by estrogen, and not testosterone. Seek medical attention.

Do you even understand what implications a libertarian economic policy would have for American citizens?

Have you ever, even once, taken an economics course?

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

Do you even understand what implications a libertarian economic policy would have for American citizens?

Have you ever, even once, taken an economics course?

Do you understand you can have a structured bankruptcy. Sure it will be hard for a few years, but the years after won't. I get that you don't care about the next generation, because you cannot commit to selfless service.

Do you consider an economics class valid if a liberal teacher did not receive monetary compensation within their publicly subsidized school? If so, then yes. If not, then yes.

Have you read any black economists work, or are you to racist?
http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Common-Sense-Economy/dp/0465002609

 

[Padawanbater2]

Do you understand you can have a structured bankruptcy. Sure it will be hard for a few years, but the years after won't.

Our economy is undergoing what's called structural stagnation - meaning the monetary policy we're using isn't working. Contractionary monetary policy only works when there is sufficient demand. THAT is the problem. Do you see people lining up outside businesses to purchase goods/services? Or do you see people saving their money, not spending it and circulating it throughout the economy?

Expansionary monetary policy is the only way to kick-start demand, exactly how it did following the great depression

 

[ASCIIGHOST]

Our economy is undergoing what's called structural stagnation - meaning the monetary policy we're using isn't working. Contractionary monetary policy only works when there is sufficient demand. THAT is the problem. Do you see people lining up outside businesses to purchase goods/services? Or do you see people saving their money, not spending it and circulating it throughout the economy?

Expansionary monetary policy is the only way to kick-start demand, exactly how it did following the great depression

How would I see if people are lining up for goods? Facebook shows when retards line up for iPhones, thats my only source. Even harder, how would I see if people are saving their money? I would need to be able to look into their bank accounts, which before Obamacare was illegal.

Quantitative easing is fancy DC talk for printing more money, but I worked for a lobbyist so what would I know about ripping people off without their knowledge/understanding.

 

[Not GOP]

get ready for QE4

 

[Padawanbater2]

How would I see if people are lining up for goods? Facebook shows when retards line up for iPhones, thats my only source. Even harder, how would I see if people are saving their money? I would need to be able to look into their bank accounts, which before Obamacare was illegal.

Quantitative easing is fancy DC talk for printing more money, but I worked for a lobbyist so what would I know about ripping people off without their knowledge/understanding.

You haven't disputed anything I said in that post

 

[ZaraBeth420]

The full quote from MLK:

"I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic. And yet I am not so opposed to capitalism that I have failed to see its relative merits. It started out with a noble and high motive, to block the trade monopolies of nobles, but like most human systems it falls victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has outlived its usefulness. It has brought about a system that takes necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes."

I would, and think most rational people would agree with his statement. I know I do. Why are we trying to act like we need to reinvent socialism, when its really capitalism that needs an overhaul. Socialism does not account for testosterone and the males natural tendency to be greedy, selfish, and destructive anyway. Traditionally it was through war, and conquest. Ahhhh the spoils of war. These days men have wised up and realized being civil leads to far more pussy. As I have said before, the nordic model relys heavily on free markets, and all the community college drop outs who some how fell into Marxist ways need to recognize their Godlessness, and accept that human behavior will never be steered in the right direction by a set of morals set forth by the government.

Every major relgion is against the boasting of your good deeds, prayers for others, or charity for needy. That is the entire liberal agenda however, boasting of the "good" they do, and the good others do not. It is despicable to all humanity around the globe, our shadowleftist government.

I was thinking I'd start my very first thread on RIU regarding the Ohio legalization failure in relation to capitalism. And I still may. But I decided to respond to your thread first.

Regarding the Ohio legalization failure, 10 rich investment teams were behind this whole process, from the very beginning. They selfishly set things up so they would each have exclusive rights to a commercial grow site. And those 10 total commercial grow sites were the only ones to be allowed in all of Ohio.

It’s capitalist cronyism at its finest. Their hope was that the average marijuana enthusiast would blindly vote to make the investment teams rich, in exchange for the right to smoke a joint legally. It’s just another example of the rich trying to corral people, dangling a carrot in their faces hoping they would take the bait and transfer more riches to the already rich investment teams.

Capitalism has failed our country. I’m not saying there’s a great alternative, but something else has got to be better than what we have. No person deserves a beachfront house and private jet before everyone has a safe place to live and enough food to eat. About the only people who have the gall to argue differently are rich people, and the politicians who do their bidding like good little sheep.

Capitalism has failed our country’s poor and middle class. And now it’s helped stop the advance of marijuana legalization.

It's time to try a different economic model than traditional capitalism.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I was thinking I'd start my very first thread on RIU regarding the Ohio legalization failure in relation to capitalism. And I still may. But I decided to respond to your thread first.

Regarding the Ohio legalization failure, 10 rich investment teams were behind this whole process, from the very beginning. They selfishly set things up so they would each have exclusive rights to a commercial grow site. And those 10 total commercial grow sites were the only ones to be allowed in all of Ohio.

It’s capitalist cronyism at its finest. Their hope was that the average marijuana enthusiast would blindly vote to make the investment teams rich, in exchange for the right to smoke a joint legally. It’s just another example of the rich trying to corral people, dangling a carrot in their faces hoping they would take the bait and transfer more riches to the already rich investment teams.

Capitalism has failed our country. I’m not saying there’s a great alternative, but something else has got to be better than what we have. No person deserves a beachfront house and private jet before everyone has a safe place to live and enough food to eat. About the only people who have the gall to argue differently are rich people, and the politicians who do their bidding like good little sheep.

Capitalism has failed our country’s poor and middle class. And now it’s helped stop the advance of marijuana legalization.

It's time to try a different economic model than traditional capitalism.

How do you feel about democratic socialism?

 

[ZaraBeth420]

How do you feel about democratic socialism?

I don't know. I'm not a political expert. I majored in Exercise Science.

But I know what we have is called capitalism. And that it hasn't worked.

Care to explain a bit about Democratic Socialism? I'd be interested.

 

[The_Herban_Legend]

I was thinking I'd start my very first thread on RIU regarding the Ohio legalization failure in relation to capitalism. And I still may. But I decided to respond to your thread first.

Regarding the Ohio legalization failure, 10 rich investment teams were behind this whole process, from the very beginning. They selfishly set things up so they would each have exclusive rights to a commercial grow site. And those 10 total commercial grow sites were the only ones to be allowed in all of Ohio.

It’s capitalist cronyism at its finest. Their hope was that the average marijuana enthusiast would blindly vote to make the investment teams rich, in exchange for the right to smoke a joint legally. It’s just another example of the rich trying to corral people, dangling a carrot in their faces hoping they would take the bait and transfer more riches to the already rich investment teams.

Capitalism has failed our country. I’m not saying there’s a great alternative, but something else has got to be better than what we have. No person deserves a beachfront house and private jet before everyone has a safe place to live and enough food to eat. About the only people who have the gall to argue differently are rich people, and the politicians who do their bidding like good little sheep.

Capitalism has failed our country’s poor a

If it had passed, would it have legalized medicinal or recreational grows?