Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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I apply SST until 2 weeks left on any strain. I usually see that strains finish faster and after every application they smell much stronger. I use the recommended 1 oz or 2 tbsp per gallon. They say the minimum should be 1 tbsp per gallon.
hyroot
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I only get fox tailing with strains that are supposed to fox tail. Sst never has caused that for me. I apply sst up til 2nd or 3rd to last watering and like 4ft said it makes the plants / buds far more pungent and brings out a more pungent flavor too. Minerals and sugars - brix levels go up
AllDayToker
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Hey can someone help me out with a couple questions?
I recently got a 30 gallon tote. I plan on using it to keep good soil in. I want to be able to always have some good soil ready to go.
It will be filled with recycled soil, as well as leaves/stems. And I plan on watering it regularly with compost/worm casting teas.
My first question is should I drill drain holes in the bottom for excess water, or possibly just one large drain spout?
Also, I obviously have to control moisture and keep it moist so the soil stays alive, but not too moist where it starts to go bad. Should I do some kind of venting on the lid, or will the lid being loose on top be enough?
And if there is anything else you would suggestion adding to the soil, or any other ideas, please let me know!
Thanks!
ADT
I recently got a 30 gallon tote. I plan on using it to keep good soil in. I want to be able to always have some good soil ready to go.
It will be filled with recycled soil, as well as leaves/stems. And I plan on watering it regularly with compost/worm casting teas.
My first question is should I drill drain holes in the bottom for excess water, or possibly just one large drain spout?
Also, I obviously have to control moisture and keep it moist so the soil stays alive, but not too moist where it starts to go bad. Should I do some kind of venting on the lid, or will the lid being loose on top be enough?
And if there is anything else you would suggestion adding to the soil, or any other ideas, please let me know!
Thanks!
ADT
hyroot
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You could drain the soil if you don't plan on turning it. I don't. I regularly turn my soil mixes. Which are mostly the same thing. Recycled soil , leaves, oats. Been broke as shit lately (bills) so haven't been able to buy worm castings and don't have any to harvest yet. So been making leaf mold in the same manner.
Yeah keep a lid on it. It helps trap and redistribute moisture in the soil. It's good turn the soil every few days. At least once a week.
Yeah keep a lid on it. It helps trap and redistribute moisture in the soil. It's good turn the soil every few days. At least once a week.
AllDayToker
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Well I don't have a problem turning it. I just figured a full 30g tote would be pretty heavy to lift up and down off a shelf. The shelf is only a foot or so off the ground so not a huge lift.
So if I don't need drainage what about moisture control? Should I drill holes in the lid or will just laying the lid on the top but not snapping it shut be sufficient enough?
Anything else you would suggest adding that might aid in the soil besides basic compost/worm casting/microbe adding teas?
littlejacob
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Bonjour
I am interested too...
If I made hole in my soil box isn't it a problem since a lots of undesirable insects could go in!??
I bought a 280L (70gl) garden box to "cook" my soil and in winter it's easy to keep it wet (moistured!?)
So is it ok if I don't make hole?!
Have a great day ★
I am interested too...
If I made hole in my soil box isn't it a problem since a lots of undesirable insects could go in!??
I bought a 280L (70gl) garden box to "cook" my soil and in winter it's easy to keep it wet (moistured!?)
So is it ok if I don't make hole?!
Have a great day ★
AllDayToker
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I think I might plan on making a slightly slanted bottom and sealing it up and have it so any moisture will run off into a bottom tray to a spout.
Kind of like how my worm factory works. I mean it won't hurt and any run off I can give to the plants since I will only be feeding compost teas.
The way the spout will work is just a switch that opens and closes it like the worm factory, so no bugs.
Kind of like how my worm factory works. I mean it won't hurt and any run off I can give to the plants since I will only be feeding compost teas.
The way the spout will work is just a switch that opens and closes it like the worm factory, so no bugs.
Do you use regular rolled oats? I'm looking for magnesium sources. Thanks
hyroot
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Yeah. I get the organic oats in the barrels at sprouts market. They are around a $1 a pound.
Ironically I'm right next to a horse neighborhood and there are no close feed stores nearby.
Oats are a full spectrum of trace minerals and nutes. But Oyster shell flour is great for mag too.
What a great price
littlejacob
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Bonjour
I went in the woods seek for mushrooms (orange and brown on the top...chanterelle in french...delicious! ) and I saw a lot of "worm shit"!
Is it good to collect and add to the soil...there's a lot of it on the floor!?
Have a nice day!
I went in the woods seek for mushrooms (orange and brown on the top...chanterelle in french...delicious! ) and I saw a lot of "worm shit"!
Is it good to collect and add to the soil...there's a lot of it on the floor!?
Have a nice day!
AllDayToker
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I would like to think all of that top soil in the woods is full of microbes and life. But I guess it somewhat depends on the trees, don't want something acidic like pine needles from ever greens.
ShLUbY
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ok 80lbs of worm power castings, insect frass, agsil,
i love chanterelles! our season here is july-august! i pick them around oak trees. what kind of trees do you find them by in france?
littlejacob
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Bonjour
Same trees...sometimes it hide under the green think who grow under oak(moss?)...but there's pines too...so I can take some worm shit under oak and maybe some moss (tree moss!)??
CU
Same trees...sometimes it hide under the green think who grow under oak(moss?)...but there's pines too...so I can take some worm shit under oak and maybe some moss (tree moss!)??
CU
ShLUbY
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i was wondering if moss would actually make a good living mulch.... it doesnt have roots, and doesn't require much of anything at all... good for moisture retention!
yeah i was thinking about doing the same as you, jacob, and getting some soil from the most mature forest i could find for a good fungal soil. this would be similar to like "ancient forest" product IMO, but with living fungi in it most likely. I would also get some soil from a good clean field with grasses, as the grasses prefer a bacterial soil. I may do this in my next mix. or in a small experimental batch most likely.
AllDayToker
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Well I think my plan now is just to say screw it haha.
Going to just throw in all of my recycled soil, leaves and cut up stalks from previous harvests then just water the hell out of it with compost/casting teas to get a nice and large microbe colony.
No drainage, no ventilation. Just going to keep an eye on it make sure it doesn't go bad or something.
Going to just throw in all of my recycled soil, leaves and cut up stalks from previous harvests then just water the hell out of it with compost/casting teas to get a nice and large microbe colony.
No drainage, no ventilation. Just going to keep an eye on it make sure it doesn't go bad or something.
ShLUbY
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anyone using cottonseed meal out there? isn't that stuff kinda.... contaminated? from what i remember cotton was a crop that lots of pesticides were used in the fields. Now they are growing rice in some of the old cotton fields, and having arsenic problems with the rice..... just curious. I guess, to a degree, nowadays just about everything is contaminated.
Yeah I wouldn't use the cottonseed meal. I was at a nursery that recommended me otherwise too. They only had one bag and it was apparently included free in the shipment. He was not planning on using it and we knew either other so he was nice enough to not let me buy it lol.