Gold rust spread on leavs!!

Bubblegum31

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Here is my lady she looks sad!!DSC_0162.JPG

I have never grow any thing in my whole life before, but am sure that there is something wrong with her :(!!
 

R1b3n4

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Here is my lady she looks sad!!View attachment 3543416

I have never grow any thing in my whole life before, but am sure that there is something wrong with her :(!!
Funny how its on both spots where the wires touch the plant or run close to it etc, maybe something to do with that? off-gassing from the sheathing maybe or even just water running down the wires n dropping onto the leaves?
 

Bubblegum31

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Funny how its on both spots where the wires touch the plant or run close to it etc,

I put those leaves my self avove the wires so it dont shade them



maybe something to do with that? off-gassing from the sheathing maybe
What this mean bro, simple.english plzzz.:D!!



This as well, soory :(

or even just water running down the wires n dropping onto the leaves?

How this could be bad
 

Bubblegum31

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They are just sensors

One is root it thermostat pluged to 70 watt heater and honeywell personal.heater 150\250w

I believe they do me fine!

And the other two one is for the thermo hybro thermostat and the othwr dor the sms hybrid fan controller
 

R1b3n4

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The White outer sheath on that wiring is made of PVC...

PVC: The Poison Plastic

EVER wondered why your new car; plastic shower cap, curtain or tote bag; or your baby’s new toy has an offensive smell for days, even months? There’s more to that “new” smell than you think. That whiff of bad air you get is from PVC (polyvinyl chloride) — one of the most hazardous consumer products ever created on earth — which is present in these and many other consumer products we use daily.

PVC products stink because they contain volatile organic compounds (VOCs). These are poisonous carbon-containing chemicals that are volatile enough to evaporate at room temperature. This process, called outgassing, is also a problem with building products such as plywood, particleboard, carpet and pads, paints, stains and glues.

Outgassing odours are most noticeable when products are new, but diminish over time until they finally disappear. A shower curtain can outgas for a month or longer, for example, depending on conditions. High temperature and humidity will speed up the release of VOCs.

VOCs can be toxic. Most commonly they irritate eyes, noses and throats, causing coughing, headaches, dizziness and nausea. The symptoms go away when outgassing ceases.

But the danger doesn’t stop there. Did you know: From the time it is manufactured right up to its disposal, PVC keeps on releasing dangerous chemicals that can cause cancer, making it the worst plastic for our health and the environment.
 

Bubblegum31

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  • Here is my setup.

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This one is 29c but bcz nothing is above it its just here to make sure of humidity under tha cab..

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Humidifier on the lift adjusted to 60% cool air
And personal heater on the right
 

Bubblegum31

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Those are under 400w pbilips MH \ sunmaster hobby dimmable ballast I can have there 250w MH on the first level of fan ( I cant notice it even works) ..

However on the 400 its ((Hoooot))

The Humidifier cool it alittle and the fan between 2\3
Sms fan controller is 5 steps

2 iss very okay to sleep and you baerllllyyyyyy notice it. On 3 you.notice it

4 and 5 I dont want that
 

Bubblegum31

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How shoukd I het an accurate reading then!??

Every one of those thermo is giving a different reading??!

I dont know even which one to trust am just picking the one in the middle

:)!!!

Just like boxing, hit the one in the middle lool :D
 

Bubblegum31

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Oh I just wanna add that like that I think I can have it very close to the plants without burning them!!!

Even me I wouldnt recognize heat stress symptoms any way :)

. I HAVE TRIED THE HAND TEST thing any way but am so newbie,.. What a shame :s

Worse thing is to have no body really you know that can guide in reall life :(!!
 

Bubblegum31

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How shoukd I het an accurate reading then!??

Every one of those thermo is giving a different reading??!

I dont know even which one to trust am just picking the one in the middle

:)!!!

Just like boxing, hit the one in the middle lool :D
I THINK I SWEAR loooool

Well,, help plz.. Dont know what am doin :D
 

Alienwidow

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The White outer sheath on that wiring is made of PVC...

PVC: The Poison Plastic

EVER wondered why your new car; plastic shower cap, curtain or tote bag; or your baby’s new toy has an offensive smell for days, even months? There’s more to that “new” smell than you think. That whiff of bad air you get is from PVC (polyvinyl chloride) — one of the most hazardous consumer products ever created on earth — which is present in these and many other consumer products we use daily.

PVC products stink because they contain volatile organic compounds (VOCs). These are poisonous carbon-containing chemicals that are volatile enough to evaporate at room temperature. This process, called outgassing, is also a problem with building products such as plywood, particleboard, carpet and pads, paints, stains and glues.

Outgassing odours are most noticeable when products are new, but diminish over time until they finally disappear. A shower curtain can outgas for a month or longer, for example, depending on conditions. High temperature and humidity will speed up the release of VOCs.

VOCs can be toxic. Most commonly they irritate eyes, noses and throats, causing coughing, headaches, dizziness and nausea. The symptoms go away when outgassing ceases.

But the danger doesn’t stop there. Did you know: From the time it is manufactured right up to its disposal, PVC keeps on releasing dangerous chemicals that can cause cancer, making it the worst plastic for our health and the environment.
Ok so tobacco mosaic virus and now hes killing himself with toxic pvc? Your a menace, get outta here, we all hate you. ;)
 

Alienwidow

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Funny how its on both spots where the wires touch the plant or run close to it etc, maybe something to do with that? off-gassing from the sheathing maybe or even just water running down the wires n dropping onto the leaves?
Wow, more sound advice here lmao :lol: the wires are making the plant droopy and pale green. So dumb.
 

SnaFuu

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Wow, more sound advice here lmao :lol: the wires are making the plant droopy and pale green. So dumb.
lol I see this kind of thing everywhere.

Instead of figuring out the problem and fixing it, so many blame it on voodoo and either start over or give up.

Or worse come here to "teach"!!

(I'll bet 90% of hydro problems are Rez temp related and 90% of soil problems are from not having enough runoff when watering)

Anyways..........
 

Alienwidow

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Panic attack!! :))
Relax man. Itll be fine. Riu is here for ya. Ok first off it looks like you have a lot of water vapor coming from the humidifier. Is it like that all the time? Some guys will pit the humidifier on a timer and run it like 15 minutes an hour. If your not doing that already ya might want to. Just to keep the chance of powdery mildew down. Cause it looks like theres a hellova lot of vapor hitting those plants.
Second the temps are a little too high so id say raise that light up six inches, maybe 8 and see if temps drop.
The short bushy one looks like you could up the food to her also cause its kinda pale. And in a perfect world id be inclined to do some vertical growing in that cab with two 4hundreds in cool tubes in the middle. Now that would seriously pound some plants out.
 

Alienwidow

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lol I see this kind of thing everywhere.

Instead of figuring out the problem and fixing it, so many blame it on voodoo and either start over or give up.

Or worse come here to "teach"!!

(I'll bet 90% of hydro problems are Rez temp related and 90% of soil problems are from not having enough runoff when watering)

Anyways..........
Omg i know what your saying! Sooo frustrating. And this stupid tobacco mosaic virus thing is getting old already wtff?
 

Morbid Angel

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Honestly, I know you have many other people diagnosing your problem but.... to me it looks like ph fluctuations and over watering.

Keep in mind that leaf is not going to turn green and new again. As long as the rest of the leaves that grow dont keep having the same problem then you have probably cured it. Check your run off PH. Triple check your watering PH.

Throw in some cal mag and a pinch of epsom salts like AW said^^. Add a tiny bit of bio degradable soap in with your waterings this will help with drainage and bugs dont like it. Just because your using coco does not mean that your drainage is good. I use almost 50% perlite in with my coco to help with drainage. I am ALSO thinking that you may have suffocated your roots a bit from too much watering without a chance to oxygenate. Plus what ever maggot or worm you saw may be causing problems @ the root level. Root problems can make for some strange looking leaves that are hard to diagnose. Living critters love wet soil/coco so again...

- Too much water, waterings too close together
- PH fluctuation for that discolouring, I know you think the ph was good, but I think you may have made an error
- root problems (critters and too much water).
- use some perlite next time also
- let your coco dry out a bit, not 100%, but lighten it up before you water
 
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