So what do we do now with the "refugees"?

Not GOP

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pnwmystery said:
We should have, now it's a little late when their homes, infrastructure, and businesses have been destroyed. Unfortunately it's countries like Russia and China which make it impossible to do so in the UN because they consistently veto measures to intervene in domestic uprisings because of their own history.
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420 Islamic terrorists now in Germany. I TOLD you so. Germany will get hit. You need to understand that they can not all be vetted.

https://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/420-potentially-dangerous-islamists-live-germany-180611252.html

 
The_Herban_Legend

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Hookabelly said:
so much for tolerance
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Obviously that is poor humor but sometimes you have to exaggerate a little to make a point. I do not want to kill religious people. I want to abolish religion from our youth and politics. If churches would contribute to the community via taxes that would be nice too but not a deal breaker.
 
pnwmystery

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Not GOP said:
420 Islamic terrorists now in Germany. I TOLD you so. Germany will get hit. You need to understand that they can not all be vetted.

https://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/420-potentially-dangerous-islamists-live-germany-180611252.html

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Your reading comprehension is pretty low because nowhere in that article does it mention that they're refugees. On the contrary, it mentions that they were already in Germany for a while.

Moreover I'm not as stupid as you'd like to think. What I'm saying is that it's pretty poor/callous reasoning to deny every refugee because a handful could potentially be terrorists. More so here in the United States where since the 1980s we've brought in over 3million refugees, and where we also were able to stop two potential terrorists for planting IEDs in Iraq in the early 2000s when they tried to enter in 2008.
 
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Not GOP

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pnwmystery said:
Your reading comprehension is pretty low because nowhere in that article does it mention that they're refugees. On the contrary, it mentions that they were already in Germany for a while.
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The Paris attack was executed by 8 jihadists. They killed 129 people.

Migrant boat crisis: Human smugglers 'throwing pregnant women and children overboard

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migrant-boat-crisis-human-smugglers-throwing-pregnant-women-and-children-overboard-to-drown-to-force-10290183.html
 
pnwmystery

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Not GOP said:
The Paris attack was executed by 8 jihadists. They killed 129 people.

Migrant boat crisis: Human smugglers 'throwing pregnant women and children overboard

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migrant-boat-crisis-human-smugglers-throwing-pregnant-women-and-children-overboard-to-drown-to-force-10290183.html
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7/8 of the attackers were Belgian/French nationals, one of them was a fake Syrian immigrant.

Yes, this is a reason why we should be helping the refugees rather than closing borders and forcing refugees to use human traffickers. This is a huge 'duh' to anyone familiar with these types of issues, which it's becoming very apparent that you you are not so familiar with (just saying).
 
Not GOP

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pnwmystery said:
7/8 of the attackers were Belgian/French nationals, one of them was a fake Syrian immigrant.

Yes, this is a reason why we should be helping the refugees rather than closing borders and forcing refugees to use human traffickers. This is a huge 'duh' to anyone familiar with these types of issues, which it's becoming very apparent that you you are not so familiar with (just saying).
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Lord bless your bleeding heart, and may it not be the death of you
 
pnwmystery

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Not GOP said:
Lord bless your bleeding heart, and may it not be the death of you
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There's nothing "bleeding heart liberal" about it. 7/8 of the attackers were Belgian/French nationals, it's simply a fact. If you want to believe they were all refugees that snuck in through Greece (the one who did sneak in through Greece was not even a Syrian refugee but posed as one) then I just feel very, very, very sorry for you.

On the other point, if we help them in the Middle East, and then help them in transit to Europe, they won't have to use human traffickers and then you wouldn't see things like children/women being thrown overboard because they can't pay extortion prices. I've studied human trafficking, human rights, refugee crises, international conflicts, and other things that relate to this issue for the past decade thank you very much. What are you credentials on this? Fox News?

Edited to add: Also, I'm choosing not to be afraid of Daesh, which is exactly what they want. You can either cower and give them legitimacy or show them that they're wrong and I'd much prefer to do the latter than succumb to terrorism.
 
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OddBall1st

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pnwmystery said:
Not necessarily, some are just fleeing a very brutal civil war. The Syrian government is using barrel bombs and tanks, Russia is using unguided munitions, the rebels are using home made weapons, etc. etc., the country is in ruins.



This is Aleppo, Syria


This is Kobani, Syria after Kurdish forces pushed out Daesh.


Or a street in Syria...



Some of these areas will be taken by rebels, then retaken by government forces, then be taken by Daesh, then be retaken by rebels, only to be retaken by government forces, to be pushed out by rebels.
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Why would anyone want to take those places anymore ?

The next Army should be bright yellow and leave nothing but flat and level ground. Completely flat down, everything buried.

There wont be anywhere to hide anymore and people wont fight there, I promise.
 
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