T5 Exclusive Grow / First Grow

[kindasobr]

try an ez cloner, and don't transplant until you have a good wad of roots, it's the easiest, and quickest way to clone.
Get one for like 50 bucks, it's the best thing for cloning

be extremely careful using molasses, I've found it can screw things up more than help.
In my opinion its best to only use it as a food stock for you compost teas, if you are looking to add potassium, i'd recommend a coco-water tea.
I reaaaaally urge you not to use molasses... you may be sorry..
it can lock out nutrients rather easily.
With the size of those plants, and the nutrients in the soil, AND using just a t5, you should be golden till the end, with no more food needed.
In my opinion.
And t5s are just fine, they just don't make the nugs dense. but the potency will be good.
Just not the weight.

Thanks for all the input!
I've been meaning to look into a cloner.. how long does it typically take before they're g2g? avg?

As far as molasses, I've honestly been rethinking it's use, since the dry fertilizer top dressing I use is supposed to be reapplied every 2 weeks, and that was on the 15th.. so I may just want to run straight pH'd water from here on out. Thoughts?

As far as potency vs weight goes..
Quality over quantity any day.

I'd rather perfect a small batch of bud then harvest a large crop of mediocrity
that way I know next time how to grow good bud, and can do it on a larger scale..

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Thanks for all the input!
I've been meaning to look into a cloner.. how long does it typically take before they're g2g? avg?

As far as molasses, I've honestly been rethinking it's use, since the dry fertilizer top dressing I use is supposed to be reapplied every 2 weeks, and that was on the 15th.. so I may just want to run straight pH'd water from here on out. Thoughts?

As far as potency vs weight goes..
Quality over quantity any day.

I'd rather perfect a small batch of bud then harvest a large crop of mediocrity
that way I know next time how to grow good bud, and can do it on a larger scale..

not a bad idea at all.
I learned on a orchard supply hardware 48w florescent shop light... back in 1989.
so it's all good man.
So the clones depend on the strain, but mostly there are ready to plant within ten days after cutting, I use nothing but distilled water.
Make sure you get an exacto knife to use
and make sure the ez cloner is cleaned each time too.
I also don't really like dry topdressings, as most of it isn't water soluble and kinda doesn't do much.
dry nutrients (meals) are great, but just not after the plant is already alive.
It's more for establishing a complete soil mix, for a water only recipe

 

[greasemonkeymann]

more importantly than the time is the success rate for the cloner, I get almost 100% success, and before it was closer to 60 or 75%

 

[kindasobr]

more importantly than the time is the success rate for the cloner, I get almost 100% success, and before it was closer to 60 or 75%

my success rate with my clones is 90+% if you can believe it.. just takes a while (14 days minimum) like you said, depending on the strain. Green Crack? roots in 10 days, but SAGE n Sour? 21 days+ (she's picky)

 

[greasemonkeymann]

my success rate with my clones is 90+% if you can believe it.. just takes a while (14 days minimum) like you said, depending on the strain. Green Crack? roots in 10 days, but SAGE n Sour? 21 days+ (she's picky)

if you are at 90%, that's damn good without a bubbler.
It may speed up the process a bit though.
And yea... on the slow clones...
I had a sugarpunch that took 20+ days, every damn time.
And even in the cloner I only had like 50% on that picky bitch

 

[eastcoastmo]

Great looking plants mate, they look to be ripening pretty well
I quite like using T5's, I also have 4 x 48w cfl's as side lighting and the density of the buds improved greatly. You look like you have plenty of room, would you consider a DIY cfl holder?

 

[kindasobr]

Great looking plants mate, they look to be ripening pretty well
I quite like using T5's, I also have 4 x 48w cfl's as side lighting and the density of the buds improved greatly. You look like you have plenty of room, would you consider a DIY cfl holder?

I had thought about adding some side lighting.. but was leaning toward another T5. Not for any reason other than it being nice and easy (and its what's familiar)

DIY cfl holder is a great suggestion though! I hadn't considered it, but it is valid.
I would have to do more research to work it all out before I burn the house down.. but I like any idea that improves my results while keeping electrical cost down.. hence my love of T5's.

 

[eastcoastmo]

Yeah sweet mate, glad to help with a suggestion, another t5 would help as well.
My setup is in a box so was easy to put in some wooden rails, then I just screwed the baton holder into some other blocks so they slide up and down as the plants grow. Kinda hard to explain so here's a pic. The cfls move up and down and the 4 bulb t5 is just out of the pic on top.

And here's some of the buds ive grown under the setup

 

[kindasobr]

I was reading up on some simple cfl fixture setups, since your suggestion prompted me to do so (thanks again, by the way) and that's a definite possibility for side lighting, rather than spending more money on T5s.. plus I have the opportunity to customize the fixture to my specific requirements.

Those buds you've got there are beautiful! great job!

 

[eastcoastmo]

Cheers mate, was extremly happy with how they came out!

I went with the added cfls for the same reason, very easy to tailor to your needs and you can keep them a few inches away from the buds for good coverage.

Best of luck with it mate and feel free to hit me up if I can help further

 

[mauricem00]

found this on e-bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Induction-Grow-Light-AND-Ballast-250-Watt/301806247838?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=34576&meid=14c6fbd0969a4678be49cb8381cb7a35&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=10&sd=301801082595 the seller runs the largest indoor farm in las vegas and has many of these in stock.seems like in inexpensive way to try induction lights.not associated with the seller in any way but ordered one to test in my small grow room. asked the seller for an SPD on this bulb and received a chart that looks very similar to full spectrum MH bulbs. been growing with 2G11 CFLs for a few years now and really like florescent grow lights

 

[kindasobr]

The best part of Hump Day! Weekly pictures, post and comparison ! Hooray I'm a nerd!

Pics below are Day 49 of Flower for Green Crack

they're really ripening up.. the house smells amazing! I'm guessing I've got at least another two waterings before they're done.. (10 - 14 days)

I'm trying to avoid the all to common mistake of a too early harvest.. no sense waiting all this time to shortchange any yield... speaking of, I'm hoping for (and predicting! there is a difference) at least 2 oz. which would be enough to hold me over until the next harvest is ready.. I go through about a gram a day max w/ all my vapes By the looks of things, the trim should be enough for at least 8 oz of coconut oil. That'll be good for 1 morning dose for 60 days (lasts 5 hours)

As always, thoughts and suggestions are always welcome!
(except for trolls,.. you're like Mondays. Just go home, no one likes you.. )

 

[kindasobr]

Best trichome pics I could pull together.. 12 MP camera through a 30x and 60x mag loupe. Not the best, but it was my best under the circumstance.

The more wide scope is the 30x
The more narrow scope is the 60x

 

[eastcoastmo]

Looking real good mate, not far off being done at all

 

[kindasobr]

Looking real good mate, not far off being done at all

I'm at that critical point in my first grow where I've become wary of the "2 Week Harvest" period. Cloudy trichomes? Amber? These terms are fairly subjective and heavily dependent on strain and experience, though there are plenty of examples on RIU and Google-able elsewhere. I guess I'm just worried about an "Early Harvest" and trying not to muck all this effort up thus far. Ideas?

 

[eastcoastmo]

I'm not seeing too many ambers in there yet, there is a few but not many. There looks to be a lot of cloudy though, which is good. It's all subjective really, depends what kind of stone you want. More amber means more of a couchlock, stoney hit whereas more cloudy means a clearer stone. I personally start flushing when I see about 10% amber, by the end, I end up with about 20% amber and 70-80% cloudy which gives me a nice even body and heady stone. Looking at your trichs, I'd be starting to flush very soon if that's what you are going to do. Otherwise, I'd be looking at maybe 8-10 days before chop, but that's purely my personal opinion

 

[kindasobr]

I'm not seeing too many ambers in there yet, there is a few but not many. There looks to be a lot of cloudy though, which is good. It's all subjective really, depends what kind of stone you want. More amber means more of a couchlock, stoney hit whereas more cloudy means a clearer stone. I personally start flushing when I see about 10% amber, by the end, I end up with about 20% amber and 70-80% cloudy which gives me a nice even body and heady stone. Looking at your trichs, I'd be starting to flush very soon if that's what you are going to do. Otherwise, I'd be looking at maybe 8-10 days before chop, but that's purely my personal opinion

I want her to do what she's going to do, I guess... that being said, I'm not looking for much of a couch lock, hence the singular indica 2 weeks behind my 6 Green Crack.. I'm going to give them another day or two, look the bud over thoroughly and call it from there..

As always eastcoastmo, thanks for the helpful advise!

 

[eastcoastmo]

Sounds like a great way to go mate
And no worries at all, more than happy to help! Good luck mate and keep us posted on the smoke

 

[MistrBurrberry]

As always, thoughts and suggestions are always welcome!

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Those are looking very nice. I'm growing under T8s myself. Can I ask why you chose not to do low stress training?

 

[kindasobr]

Those are looking very nice. I'm growing under T8s myself. Can I ask why you chose not to do low stress training?

I used LST to spread out one of the plants pictured in this thread; first thumbnail in post #32. That girl was the original cutting I received and used LST to spread her out and take more cuttings from the resulting new branches. It's those clones that you see here now nearly ready for harvest. Due to my state's MMJ laws, I was concerned about my harvest exceeding my "smokeable" marijuana limit, and not knowing how much to expect from harvest in my first grow I decided to just let them do their thing for now. Learn what I can, and plan for the next crop rotation.

I've already used LST to spread and bush out the plants in veg that I plan to run next. Do you continue to strap and tie down your girls into flowering, or do you leave what ties you have at 12/12 flip and add no more?