Controlling through-the-roof medical costs

ASCIIGHOST

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I remember reading about this in school. Both my books and history books everywhere (with the exception of Texas) CALLED a great many of these "jobs" SLAVERY.
The Federal Reserve collectively owns a % of Americas labor. They loan money, things are paid for, and all taxes go back to federal reserve back. Taxes don't pay for things directly, they bay back loans, plus interest. Its a simple skim off the top type scheme.

If taking 100% of what you produce is slavery, at what percent is it NOT slavery?
 

bearkat42

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The Federal Reserve collectively owns a % of Americas labor. They loan money, things are paid for, and all taxes go back to federal reserve back. Taxes don't pay for things directly, they bay back loans, plus interest. Its a simple skim off the top type scheme.

If taking 100% of what you produce is slavery, at what percent is it NOT slavery?
Definition Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold ,and are forced to work
 

Uncle Ben

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The Federal Reserve collectively owns a % of Americas labor. They loan money, things are paid for, and all taxes go back to federal reserve back. Taxes don't pay for things directly, they bay back loans, plus interest. Its a simple skim off the top type scheme.
You have other choices, derailing banks and the Federal Reserve for the financial services they offer doesn't cut it. Pay cash.....no worries. Your choice.

No one owns any one. That's ridiculous and sounds like nothing more than a cop-out.

This country was built on credit. I got where I am, in part, by borrowing and then quickly retiring all loans except for the house. Rest I had invested and was sitting on cash, stocks, etc.

Since I have such a low APR note on the house it would financially stupid to pay off that note plus lose my mortgage tax deduction.
 
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ASCIIGHOST

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Definition Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold ,and are forced to work
don't pay taxes and you will better see how you are treated as property. at gun point none the less. why are you for supporting the government that oppresses you? perhaps you are a "house fellow?"
 

ASCIIGHOST

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You have other choices, derailing banks and the Federal Reserve for the financial services they offer doesn't cut. Pay cash.....no worries. Your choice.

No one owns any one. That's ridiculous and sounds like nothing more than a cop-out.
Banks this big make you agree to their terms. Look at the recent bailouts. Thats all being paid for out of our collective taxes. They are promised collateral, and our collective labor is one from of collateral. Natural resources (federal parks) are the other. Using the only legal tender on which they have a monopoly, or "cash" as you so simply put it, doesnt operate outside of their ownership. Theft occurs by devaluing the cash you hold/use. Cash is a promissory note to federal reserve. It is debt based economy controlled by those who print the only legal tender you can be paid in universally by American business/employers.

You want to cop-op of understanding truth solely so you don't feel as a partial slave? Try to avoid feelings. Anger is caused by a lack of testosterone, not an excess of it.
 

UncleBuck

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The so called ACA...Affordable Care Act, is in the process of imploding.
It has not been able to contain health coverage costs, and it certainly failed to accomplish Obama's commitment to save every American family $2500 per year...
What a farce, fiasco, and joke...keep in mind that this misguided legislation garnered not one Republican vote...not even one...
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Why Obamacare Will Fail
Political discussion aside, The Affordable Care Act (ACA) will fail for business reasons. Whether the ultimate result is the law getting repealed or modified, change is necessary to have a viable and vibrant health insurance industry that drives cost reduction and improved customer service.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-karr/why-obamacare-will-fail_b_8586192.html?utm_hp_ref=obamacare

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Now, I think that it is not outside of the realm of possibility that the ACA was conceived as a diabolical Trojan Horse, the predictable failure of which would lead the US to a single payer plan by default.
nice copy and paste, that's about all you are good for.

oh, and also, failed predictions. every single one you have ever made, in fact, has failed.

so you have that going for you.
 

UncleBuck

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You assume all white people are racist slavers based entirely on the colour of their skin.

That fits the absolute definition of racist.
i haven't seen him do that.

i have seen you repeatedly call black people "spear chuckers" though, that is, when you are not too busy reducing me to the fact that i am jewish.

so you'cve got that racism and anti-semitism going for you, short stuff.

4'11''
 

Uncle Ben

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Banks this big make you agree to their terms.
So? If I don't like their terms, then they don't get my business. We all have, and make - choices. I'm not forced by a bank to pay them based on a law that promotes legalized thievery like the IRS.

Every one has "terms", that's life. Is that your wife calling? "IF YOU DON'T SHUT THAT CHILD UP YOU'RE BOTH GOING TO BED HUNGRY!"
 

Rob Roy

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That's exactly it!

He is not from this planet.

HIS planet uses Earth as a mental hospital.

:mrgreen:

Sort of.

Most "normal people" are not aware that what they do on a routine, regular and repetitive basis does not confer or deny moral qualities or even efficacy to any given actions. They think that things which are normal in the present are somehow correct actions until a few hundred years later when, upon reflection, it becomes "normal" to recognize just how stupid things were....

For instance the two guys watching the human sacrifice in the picture below could easily be saying, "it's not a perfect government, but its the best one we have" So, please, carry on with these "normal" conversations.

 

Rob Roy

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sorry for pointing out how the rest of the wealthy world does it so much better and for so much less with heavy government involvement.

meanwhile, you keep screaming about free market fairies with no supporting evidence whatsoever.

so maybe just shut up to avoid exposing your stupidity.
No, you're not sorry, you're wrong though.
 

UncleBuck

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No, you're not sorry, you're wrong though.
no, i am not wrong. and it is demonstrable. all you need to do is look at other nations, look at how much government involvement they have in health care, look at how much less they pay, and look at how much better their results are for all their citizens, regardless of income level.

meanwhile, you have zero evidence whatsoever that anything you are saying has any basis in truth whatsoever. not one iota.

hence your flaccid, weak, limp rebuttal.
 

ChesusRice

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no, i am not wrong. and it is demonstrable. all you need to do is look at other nations, look at how much government involvement they have in health care, look at how much less they pay, and look at how much better their results are for all their citizens, regardless of income level.

meanwhile, you have zero evidence whatsoever that anything you are saying has any basis in truth whatsoever. not one iota.

hence your flaccid, weak, limp rebuttal.
Rob Roy hates the government.
Since the goverment wont allow him to fuck children legally
 

Harrekin

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You have other choices, derailing banks and the Federal Reserve for the financial services they offer doesn't cut it. Pay cash.....no worries. Your choice.

No one owns any one. That's ridiculous and sounds like nothing more than a cop-out.

This country was built on credit. I got where I am, in part, by borrowing and then quickly retiring all loans except for the house. Rest I had invested and was sitting on cash, stocks, etc.

Since I have such a low APR note on the house it would financially stupid to pay off that note plus lose my mortgage tax deduction.
That was a pretty stupid move.

You're supposed to do an analysis because if you can use the capital to earn a higher percentage than the interest rate on the loans then paying back the loans early can be a larger potential net loss.

I thought right wingers were supposed to be able to "business"?

Also, keeping capital as cash?

Massive net loss.
 
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