EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

[schuylaar]

For all you Bernie supporters, assuming he is elected, would you please post how you personally expect your lives to change and exactly how long relative to his swearing in date that time will be? Please be specific as you can.

100 days. He already has a plan..is that specific enough?

 

[Harrekin]

100 days. He already has a plan..is that specific enough?

Have you got it somewhere I can go read it?

In bulletpoints would be great, you can't just claim he has some "divine plan" that only the worthy shall know.

Ron Paul had a plan for his first hundred days too.

Wait and see he said, we have the support he said...

 

[schuylaar]

Have you got it somewhere I can go read it?

In bulletpoints would be great, you can't just claim he has some "divine plan" that only the worthy shall know.

Ron Paul had a plan for his first hundred days too.

Wait and see he said, we have the support he said...

I can..still waiting on your citation from last points made before we move on..care to post?

BTW how was your Thanksgiving?

 

[Grandpapy]

I think we the American people need someone like Bernie Sanders to wean us off of our feeling of exceptionalism and superiorority and become a regular country that gets along with other countries and not forceing our crap on everyone and picking their leaders

I'd be happy with a Congress that supports Americans as much as they do China/Big Oil &1%.

 

[Harrekin]

I can..still waiting on your citation from last points made before we move on..care to post?

BTW how was your Thanksgiving?

Can you quote what it is you seek? It's obviously buried under all the other shite but I'd be glad to provide whatever citations you desire if I offered them.

 

[ttystikk]

I'd be happy with a Congress that supports Americans as much as they do China/Big Oil &1%.

You know, you can actually be a part of a movement to make that happen. Just throw your support behind any legislation limiting campaign funding. ALL OF IT.

 

[schuylaar]

Can you quote what it is you seek? It's obviously buried under all the other shite but I'd be glad to provide whatever citations you desire if I offered them.

You're trying to say Ron Paul had support of people. While I contend it is not the support of 'we the people' which is more extensively funded.

There' a difference..so my friend, please post a Paul..any Paul..at same time and point in their bid for presidency..and let's compare.

 

[Harrekin]

You're trying to say Ron Paul had support of people. While I contend it is not the support of 'we the people' which is more extensively funded.

There' a difference..so my friend, please post a Paul..any Paul..at same time and point in their bid for presidency..and let's compare.

Do you not remember the whole "unassigned delegates method" ?

He had the support, he had the people.

Hillary 55...Bernie 30.

Realclear poll average.

Feel the burn.

 

[UncleBuck]

So, you're a fan of the flat tax. The only "proportionate" plan out there. I pay 12%, he pays 12%, you pay...well, at least the rest of us pay 12%.

I didn't know you were capable of that level of common sense. No offense, but you are a liberal, after all.

that's regressive, not proportionate. are you this stupid?

i don't know why i even keep asking that.

 

[ttystikk]

that's regressive, not proportionate. are you this stupid?

i don't know why i even keep asking that.

No tax on the first $24k, then PROGRESSIVE taxation from there.

Cap the tax deductions for homes to 25% above median sale prices. This way we aren't subsidizing mansions instead of families.

Cap other benefits as well. If the individual is making five times the national average wage, then how many deductions do they need?!

Never again should we tolerate lower capital gains taxes than those on wages; this is perhaps the most pernicious of the techniques used by the ultra wealthy to enslave the populace, while getting off easy in terms of paying for their fair share of the common welfare.

 

[Harrekin]

No tax on the first $24k, then PROGRESSIVE taxation from there.

Cap the tax deductions for homes to 25% above median sale prices. This way we aren't subsidizing mansions instead of families.

Cap other benefits as well. If the individual is making five times the national average wage, then how many deductions do they need?!

Never again should we tolerate lower capital gains taxes than those on wages; this is perhaps the most pernicious of the techniques used by the ultra wealthy to enslave the populace, while getting off easy in terms of paying for their fair share of the common welfare.

Americans should drink more, yous cry alot and it helps.

 

[UncleBuck]

He had the support, he had the people.

nope. he polled at about 3% in states that mattered like florida.

revise history some more, midget.

 

[ttystikk]

Americans should drink more, yous cry alot and it helps.

Are you rich? I mean really, really multimillionaire rich? Cuz if not, you're at best just a boot licking apologist for aristocracy... and a hypocrite.

 

[Grandpapy]

Americans should drink more, yous cry alot and it helps.

If Budweiser was intrenched in Congress as much as Exxon.....

 

[ttystikk]

If Budweiser was intrenched in Congress as much as Exxon.....

You mean ImBev, of Belgium? They sure don't seem to have any trouble hauling tons of alcohol to sell anywhere they like, do they?

 

[schuylaar]

Do you not remember the whole "unassigned delegates method" ?

He had the support, he had the people.

Hillary 55...Bernie 30.

Realclear poll average.

Feel the burn.

Saying something long and loud enough just does not make it true..

But it co-uld..

The only ones you've convinced, are yourselves.

 

[m4s73r]

Not to get all caught up in the drama, but I support Bernie.
I have donated money to his campaign.
I like what he is saying.
I dont trust Clinton or the republicans.
Sadly none of this matters. The money and media controls who's running for president.

 

[bearkat42]

Not to get all caught up in the drama, but I support Bernie.
I have donated money to his campaign.
I like what he is saying.
I dont trust Clinton or the republicans.
Sadly none of this matters. The money and media controls who's running for president.

I'm one sentence, you say that you've donated to Bernie's campaign. In the next sentence, you appear to be saying that you already know the outcome. You really must like giving money away.

 

[m4s73r]

Ironic isnt it. But i have to support what i believe in. Even if Bernie isnt elected his message is. And THAT is whats the most important. Support what i want others to believe in. I cant just say I want change then do nothing. I hope that Bernie becomes president and will do what i can to move that forward. But I am also a realist. I know how the political process works. It always goes toward the money.
Its not a waste if we win. But its also not a waste if his idea move forward. Even if its with out him.

 

[Harrekin]

Ironic isnt it. But i have to support what i believe in. Even if Bernie isnt elected his message is. And THAT is whats the most important. Support what i want others to believe in. I cant just say I want change then do nothing. I hope that Bernie becomes president and will do what i can to move that forward. But I am also a realist. I know how the political process works. It always goes toward the money.
Its not a waste if we win. But its also not a waste if his idea move forward. Even if its with out him.

Bernies message is convoluted and unlikely to ever become reality.If he'd just been straight and said he'd:

• strengthen welfare
• repeal the ACA and nationalise hospitals
• nationalise higher education

and impliment a progressive but not punitive tax he might be taken seriously by the people who are on the fence.

Simply shouting you want the US to be like East Germany isn't going to get you very far except with the brain dead wannabe lefties.