Organic... Flush needed?

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GrowNube

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so I know there are two clear schools of thought here... But for those who do believe a flush is necessary... Is it for organic growing? Have used Earth Juice line and have not gone over the top with it... I know flushing gets the "chemical taste" out, but with organics, are there technically chemicals to remove? Thanks all... First time grower so be easy on me..
 

209 Cali closet grower

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No. Don't flush.

If u do flush. Your taking food a way from your plants. The last week's in soil.

I stop feeding the last week my self. But do not pour gallons of water on a plants to " flush" the nutes out.
 

chuck estevez

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so I know there are two clear schools of thought here... But for those who do believe a flush is necessary... Is it for organic growing? Have used Earth Juice line and have not gone over the top with it... I know flushing gets the "chemical taste" out, but with organics, are there technically chemicals to remove? Thanks all... First time grower so be easy on me..
everything in this post is just wrong. First, there is not 2 CLEAR schools, there is reality, and there is marijuana forum bs. second, if you truly have an organic soil, it would be impossible to "flush" anything from the soil. Running mass amounts of water will mess up a good soil before helping it. third, there is no "chemical taste' cause from nutrients not being "flushed" out at the end. Proper growing, drying and curing techniques are the answer to bad taste.
 

GrowNube

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I also think you don't need flushing. How old your plant?
In week 9-10 of flower and they are supposed to harvest from 10-12, still a lot of white hairs and very few have darkened, so thinking I'll let this girl go a bit longer...

Thanks for your thoughts!
 

GrowNube

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everything in this post is just wrong. First, there is not 2 CLEAR schools, there is reality, and there is marijuana forum bs. second, if you truly have an organic soil, it would be impossible to "flush" anything from the soil. Running mass amounts of water will mess up a good soil before helping it. third, there is no "chemical taste' cause from nutrients not being "flushed" out at the end. Proper growing, drying and curing techniques are the answer to bad taste.
Thanks Chuck... Again, newbie to this all, but just meant two views being to flush or not to flush... I have been spoiling them through whole process so just looking for insight on how to finish strong... As I am using organics (soil, worm castings, earth juice fertilizers) sounds like flushing would deliver few, if any, benefits... 10-4. Thanks man!
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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Thanks Chuck... Again, newbie to this all, but just meant two views being to flush or not to flush... I have been spoiling them through whole process so just looking for insight on how to finish strong... As I am using organics (soil, worm castings, earth juice fertilizers) sounds like flushing would deliver few, if any, benefits... 10-4. Thanks man!
Anyway if it is a truly organic grow there's supposed to be NO chemicals in the soil everything is supposed to be natural, been that said NO NEED TO FLUSH AT ALL.
 

vostok

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Be careful here tho Grownube says hes in 'correct' organic soils etc

many concoctions sold by grow shops are in fact shit chemicals with marketing

labels claiming to be 'organic'

see it as ....anything in a bottle needs a 'preservative' ain't Organic

my 2c
 

GrowNube

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Be careful here tho Grownube says hes in 'correct' organic soils etc

many concoctions sold by grow shops are in fact shit chemicals with marketing

labels claiming to be 'organic'

see it as ....anything in a bottle needs a 'preservative' ain't Organic

my 2c
Soil is Black Gold Organic, Fox Farms Happy Frog, Fox Farms Ocean Forest, Roots Organics mixed with perlite and worm castings and all of fertilizers are from Earth Juice which are OMRI compliant..
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
everything in this post is just wrong. First, there is not 2 CLEAR schools, there is reality, and there is marijuana forum bs. second, if you truly have an organic soil, it would be impossible to "flush" anything from the soil. Running mass amounts of water will mess up a good soil before helping it. third, there is no "chemical taste' cause from nutrients not being "flushed" out at the end. Proper growing, drying and curing techniques are the answer to bad taste.
I warms my heart to see that at least some people have understood the points I've been making for years.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Anyway if it is a truly organic grow there's supposed to be NO chemicals in the soil everything is supposed to be natural, been that said NO NEED TO FLUSH AT ALL.
Wether you grow organic or not you are still using chemicals.
Nitrogen for example is a chemical element (means the substance has just one type of atoms), and there are many "chemicals" in weed in general, regardless of how you grow.

The difference between organic and synthetic is simply naturally occuring vs man-made.

I'm not saying anything about flushing, I think people know my stance.
I'm just pointing out there are many naturally occuring chemicals and chemical compounds present in any grow.
 

hyroot

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Omri is b.s. windex could be omri for the right money. Pure spray green was omri before being banned from california for being toxic petroleum. All Humboldt county's own was omri before being banned from california for being highly carcinogenic.

Earth juice is not organic. It has salts and chemical preservatives.

Fox farm soil is not organic it has synthetic urea

Fox farm nutes are not organic aside from preservatives and salts it also has edta


So definitely flush for at least a week. Maybe 2 otherwise you will have some harsh weed. You want leech out as much as you can. Letting soil dry out completely between flushes will leach more chems out of the leaves.
 

hyroot

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Wether you grow organic or not you are still using chemicals.
Nitrogen for example is a chemical element (means the substance has just one type of atoms), and there are many "chemicals" in weed in general, regardless of how you grow.

The difference between organic and synthetic is simply naturally occuring vs man-made.

I'm not saying anything about flushing, I think people know my stance.
I'm just pointing out there are many naturally occuring chemicals and chemical compounds present in any grow.

You know exactly what every one means when they say Chem and organic. No need to nit pick and be the one upper. Do you correct people when they use slang or explain something differently. C'mon.

The definition of chemical is man made

a compound or substance that has been purified or prepared, especially artificially.
 
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3N1GM4

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I have an organic flush every morning about 8 am. I have consumed weed that wasnt flushed and weed that was flushed for 2 weeks prior to harvest. Unflushed weed is harsh, tickles the back of the throat, and makes you choke and gag. Properly flushed weed is a smoother more pleasurable experience.
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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Wether you grow organic or not you are still using chemicals.
Nitrogen for example is a chemical element (means the substance has just one type of atoms), and there are many "chemicals" in weed in general, regardless of how you grow.

The difference between organic and synthetic is simply naturally occuring vs man-made.

I'm not saying anything about flushing, I think people know my stance.
I'm just pointing out there are many naturally occuring chemicals and chemical compounds present in any grow.
This is a never ending discussion and im not even gonna get into it, but if someone didn't know it was 2 types of chemicals man made, and naturally occurring now u know. Lol.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
You know exactly what every one means when they say Chem and organic. No need to nit pick and be the one upper. Do you correct people when they use slang or explain something differently. C'mon.

The definition of chemical is man made

a compound or substance that has been purified or prepared, especially artificially.
The problem with being as vague as you are being is that nobody who has any respect for science understands what you are saying.
None of what you have said makes any sense, scientifically or logically.

I have no clue what you mean when anyone says "chem and organic".
If you had wanted to discuss synthetics and additives, I might have understood, but as your post reads it makes no sense.

The definition of chemical is NOT man-made.
Most of the chemical elements on the periodic table are naturally occuring chemicals.
As are many other chemical compounds.

On another point, I can see that you are pro-flushing, which probably is why you are so confused when it comes to fairly complicated scientific discussions.
I could point out all the errors in your thinking, as I've done numerous times before, I have written extensively on the subject of flushing, but that would be a fruitless endavour.

I will just point out a few things that makes me cringe;
You use leech & leach interchangeably. Do you realize one of those words is an animal that sucks blood?
You think "chemicals" (here you go again with your vague terms, without defining anything or specifying), can be removed from the flowers of the cannabis plant.
Fun fact; the flowers of the cannabis plant do not store nutrients, nutrients are stored mainly in the roots & fan leaves.

If your weed is harsh when you smoke it, you have utterly failed to dry & cure your weed properly, it's not because of some mythological definition of a "chemical" hiding in your weed making your throat hurt.

There is no point in me wasting time arguing with someone who hasn't a clue about the basics of chemistry and biology.



In closing, I will lock this thread, since we are already starting to go around in circles and nothing meaningful can be gained from it.
 
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