Russian jet shot down by Turkey

The_Herban_Legend

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Urban i look at it this way who owes who money ????? looks to me USA owes Russia 115 billion dollars :)
I'm waging heavily on the collapse or economical downturn of Russia. Saudi Arabia is intentionally lowering the price of oil. This alone will cripple an already faltering Russian economy.

Do you agree or disagree?
 

Red1966

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That's not just a liberal characteristic. It is a HUMAN characteristic.


Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit.
Attaching the label is not the same as discrimination, tho that can be part of the intended effect.
 

OddBall1st

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Wow, it`s that fucked up. Nothing diplomatic can even begin to collect until some decisions are made about the Who`s, What`s, Where, When`s and Why`s are all sorted out and lots of stuff needs to be known too.

Clusterfuck for sure. Populations dispersed, bad guys fighting bad guys to see which bad guys rebuild and which obeys,...

Member that line in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly when Tuco says, ...."We should just blow up that stink`n bridge and maybe these fools will go and fight somewhere else"...Same thing applies there, only they don`t have to destroy a bridge, they gotta destroy ISIS, just to get to what they want.

I guess protesters bombed the Embassy in Moscow with stones and eggs and whatever they could pick up and throw.

I guess Obama wants to round `em all up and sort things out and Putin wants to sort things out then round `em all up.......


You know what OddBall1st, a mad coinkydink just occurred, Obama has ordered 150 Spec/Ops into Iraq to fight ISIS on the frontline, just like he said he wouldn`t a few weeks ago,....and,...a primary objective has been set, that includes Jan 1 objective to end the Civil War in Syria with preliminary work on a new Government that includes Assad.

You wont need to tell everyone again that Putin made the correct move acting out of the capital and with the recognized leader of Syria against ISIS. These anticipated .."peace talks" wouldn`t happen if Putin didn`t do what he did. Now that Assad can`t be toppled, he is included so both sides will have a dog in this. Both sides must give a little to get a lot. Black Lives Matter is not invited. Neither is Buck or Paddy.............
 

2ANONYMOUS

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Specially for America wouldn't you think Russia is struggling but AGAIN lets not forget the cold war in which USA tried extremely hard to really hurt Russia , Truth is Russia came out stronger Although Russia is amoung leading countries in oil n gas production thing is they have gas and oil USA does not this is why there in the middle east to begin with
Actually USA had to confirm to the creditors there not drilling and using lands they used as collateral to secure loans to begin with lets not forget all the wet lands and other protected places you as a citizen cannot enter :) is to secure loans
Wake up call
Even if our budget was balanced, we would still be in trouble because we don't have the cash flow left over to pay the interest on our existing debt. This means we borrow to pay the interest which means the existing debt is compounding. It doesn't take an expert to realize the eventual results of that. If we continue to spend more than we take in, the U.S. government is heading for an eventual collapse.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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Specially for America wouldn't you think Russia is struggling but AGAIN lets not forget the cold war in which USA tried extremely hard to really hurt Russia , Truth is Russia came out stronger Although Russia is amoung leading countries in oil n gas production thing is they have gas and oil USA does not this is why there in the middle east to begin with
Actually USA had to confirm to the creditors there not drilling and using lands they used as collateral to secure loans to begin with lets not forget all the wet lands and other protected places you as a citizen cannot enter :) is to secure loans
Wake up call
Even if our budget was balanced, we would still be in trouble because we don't have the cash flow left over to pay the interest on our existing debt. This means we borrow to pay the interest which means the existing debt is compounding. It doesn't take an expert to realize the eventual results of that. If we continue to spend more than we take in, the U.S. government is heading for an eventual collapse.
Me and you agree on the collapse of the all mighty dollar. I am just kind of taken back that you won't admit Russia's economy is about to take a dive. Are you invested in Russia?
 

Red1966

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Specially for America wouldn't you think Russia is struggling but AGAIN lets not forget the cold war in which USA tried extremely hard to really hurt Russia , Truth is Russia came out stronger Although Russia is amoung leading countries in oil n gas production thing is they have gas and oil USA does not this is why there in the middle east to begin with
Actually USA had to confirm to the creditors there not drilling and using lands they used as collateral to secure loans to begin with lets not forget all the wet lands and other protected places you as a citizen cannot enter :) is to secure loans
Wake up call
Even if our budget was balanced, we would still be in trouble because we don't have the cash flow left over to pay the interest on our existing debt. This means we borrow to pay the interest which means the existing debt is compounding. It doesn't take an expert to realize the eventual results of that. If we continue to spend more than we take in, the U.S. government is heading for an eventual collapse.
This is the weakness of all democracies. Give the population whatever they want to get elected/re-elected and ignore the costs. Eventually, you run out of money you can beg, borrow, or steal.
 

2ANONYMOUS

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Me and you agree on the collapse of the all mighty dollar. I am just kind of taken back that you won't admit Russia's economy is about to take a dive. Are you invested in Russia?
All Economies are hurting but TBH Russia military cost per day vs USA i would think is way lower would you not concur ???
Sad truth is now can we not agree USA has back peddled think about it ??? USA's Goal was to remove Assad ????
Now he is in the picture ,, and will remain in power Ironic isn;t it was this not the main goal for USA to remove ASSAD ......
As for the special op that is suppose to go into Iraq ??? will they be actual American millitary or paid mercenaries like Black water ....
 

Red1966

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Me and you agree on the collapse of the all mighty dollar. I am just kind of taken back that you won't admit Russia's economy is about to take a dive. Are you invested in Russia?
The dollar has been supported by being the exchange medium for oil. There is a growing movement to change that to another currency, or gold. When that happens, the effect on the dollar could be disastrous.
 

OddBall1st

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Nope, come again. No monetary value. Don't believe me? Go to your bank and tell them you would like to exchange the word "lawsuit" for it's current monetary value and report back with your gains... or loses.

I did. I went to the bank, they asked me why I was there, and I said Lawsuit,...they gave me my check from the proper account.

The banker continued to express exactly what you say and prove that there is no one word that has monetary value, I said you`re right, it` three words,.............stick em up........
 

OddBall1st

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The dollar has been supported by being the exchange medium for oil. There is a growing movement to change that to another currency, or gold. When that happens, the effect on the dollar could be disastrous.

According to the big wig, that was to happen in October 2015,.......It`s December.
 
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