Becoming a hermit

mrpink55

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Don't spend all your money just yet, find a place you want and wait on it at least a month. If you still want it then id say buy it. I have spent money on things when I was emotional I wish I hadn't looking back.
 

outlier

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Yeah for sure Mr. Pink. I'd leave the door open for an easy out for a while. Don't want to rush into a big move like that and end up cornering yourself. Not good for anyone's mental state if you ask me.

Nothing wrong with being a hermit. I used to sail solo for months and I loved every second of it. I think as you get older, you learn who your friends are and you don't give a shit about anything else except those close to you. Pretty normal if you ask me. Sounds like you're ready for the next phase of your life. Enjoy it and do what you want. Good luck!
 
Seeking hermetic wisdom and tranquility. I'm paranoid schizophrenic and at the age of 29 have experienced the full onset of the disease, which has left me kinda reclusive and lethargic. I used to be a very social person with an outgoing personality now I go to work and come home and drink beer all night; I have a few good friends that drop by quite a bit but other than that I have no social life. I'm paying $1600 a month for the house with heat and lights, I spend $450 a week on beer smokes and weed. You have to understand the disease you have absolutely no motivation you have to constantly consciously push yourself to work, life is a constant struggle, that's why so many people with mental illness end up on the street. Schizophrenia is a disability but is not recognized as such. I work for myself but I know I'm way too slack to work for anybody else I was never able to hold a job.

So since I am not able to go on disability due to ignorance of schizophrenia by society I am thinking of going on social assistance and abandoning society all together. I have $27000 to my name I'm thinking of buying an acre lot and putting a little hut with a slab and septic in and hoping that a few solar panels and windmills will keep a small refrigerator running. I already have the lot picked out its in the sticks the property tax will only be $600 a year I figure I can do with two cords of wood a year and hopefully find a nearby spring I can tap into. A single male gets $525 a month on welfare. I honestly think this is the best for my well being what do you think? I'll quit smoking and drinking, I'll grow outdoor my only expense would be property tax, wood, and food. Is there anything I'm overlooking?
If you do things right you can cut the food expense out most of the food and wood expenses. Learn canning, learn aquaponics. Learn everything a prepper would teach you. Research the ecosystem you are creating the one that benefits you the most. A hybrid popular or purple empress line to breed and harvest for firewood. Make your own pond and stock it with what you want to eat. Learn the husbandry of whatever animals you are going to work with. In my case it is crayfish, doves, rabbits, and ferrets. The latter are not for eating, but rodent control and companionship. Learn to hunt/shoot. Learn to repair everything you will ever own, use, or build. If you're a vegan, well you get a pass on that one but I imagine things will be a lot tougher for you.

Solar panels only work when there is light. Windmills only work if there is wind. Build a battery backup. Consider a generator.

Learn the property laws applicable to where you will live. Build a church and found a religion for tax breaks. Get your property zoned as a church and/or farm for further tax breaks. Learn to scratch build anything and everything you might ever need. Plan on things changing. Plan on increases in electricity costs, increases in property tax, increases in school taxes.

Figure out how you will combat loneliness. All day, everyday. You are alone. That is the worst part of it. Eventually it will most likely wear you down. The hardest part is acknowledging that you need people, and social interaction. Figure out how you will get help if/when you are neck deep in a bad situation.

Plan on having some form of communication, like a cell/satellite phone.

Plan on taking up a few dozen hobbies to keep you sane if you ultimately decide to go it alone.

Plan on working harder than you have ever worked in your life.

Your life mirrors my past self. I walked down a very similar path as the one you stand before. It is not easy. At times it sucks balls. There are ups and downs to it. If it is your path, walk down it; but do not ever go in blindly thinking you will just blunder through it.

That's all just my two cents. Take it or leave it. I've probably forgotten about a million things. If you have questions, ask. I'm not the most knowledgeable, but I'd wager I know more about this path than most.
 

New Age United

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Could be depression.I dont think you can diagnose yourself on this matter.I gave up drinking alcohol .that helps my depression
alot.Imo if you spend your evenings alone drinking and smoking weed you will only get worse.isolating yourself wont help either.
Try some meditation tecs and cut out the alcohol-your plan sounds like a lonely path to disaster
No its not depression, I would know if I was depressed I've been very close to suicide in the past I know what it feels like. See the thing is I don't get lonely, I've been somewhat detached from society for all my life I prefer to be alone, even my closest friends and family can only stay in my presence for so long before I start to feel irritated and uncomfortable. It's not social anxiety either I don't get anxiety from having to socialize it's just I'm not social and even anti social, I would rather be at war than at peace with people, but deep down we all want peace which is why I want to be alone.

Let me be more specific on the symptoms; positive: hallucinations, paranoid delusions. Negative: lethargy, anti social. There are also many traits such as not dating, difficulty holding a job, sloppiness of dress and poor hygiene. My buddy Geoff has depression but none of these symptoms. I have all the symptoms and traits of a schizophrenic and there are many so I gotta be honest it sounds like schizophrenia.
 

DaSprout

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If you do things right you can cut the food expense out most of the food and wood expenses. Learn canning, learn aquaponics. Learn everything a prepper would teach you. Research the ecosystem you are creating the one that benefits you the most. A hybrid popular or purple empress line to breed and harvest for firewood. Make your own pond and stock it with what you want to eat. Learn the husbandry of whatever animals you are going to work with. In my case it is crayfish, doves, rabbits, and ferrets. The latter are not for eating, but rodent control and companionship. Learn to hunt/shoot. Learn to repair everything you will ever own, use, or build. If you're a vegan, well you get a pass on that one but I imagine things will be a lot tougher for you.

Solar panels only work when there is light. Windmills only work if there is wind. Build a battery backup. Consider a generator.

Learn the property laws applicable to where you will live. Build a church and found a religion for tax breaks. Get your property zoned as a church and/or farm for further tax breaks. Learn to scratch build anything and everything you might ever need. Plan on things changing. Plan on increases in electricity costs, increases in property tax, increases in school taxes.

Figure out how you will combat loneliness. All day, everyday. You are alone. That is the worst part of it. Eventually it will most likely wear you down. The hardest part is acknowledging that you need people, and social interaction. Figure out how you will get help if/when you are neck deep in a bad situation.

Plan on having some form of communication, like a cell/satellite phone.

Plan on taking up a few dozen hobbies to keep you sane if you ultimately decide to go it alone.

Plan on working harder than you have ever worked in your life.

Your life mirrors my past self. I walked down a very similar path as the one you stand before. It is not easy. At times it sucks balls. There are ups and downs to it. If it is your path, walk down it; but do not ever go in blindly thinking you will just blunder through it.

That's all just my two cents. Take it or leave it. I've probably forgotten about a million things. If you have questions, ask. I'm not the most knowledgeable, but I'd wager I know more about this path than most.
Really great info in your post man. You should put up an ebook. Or at lest a thread on your thoughts upon this subject. You really delved deep. Good one.
 

DaSprout

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No its not depression, I would know if I was depressed I've been very close to suicide in the past I know what it feels like. See the thing is I don't get lonely, I've been somewhat detached from society for all my life I prefer to be alone, even my closest friends and family can only stay in my presence for so long before I start to feel irritated and uncomfortable. It's not social anxiety either I don't get anxiety from having to socialize it's just I'm not social and even anti social, I would rather be at war than at peace with people, but deep down we all want peace which is why I want to be alone.

Let me be more specific on the symptoms; positive: hallucinations, paranoid delusions. Negative: lethargy, anti social. There are also many traits such as not dating, difficulty holding a job, sloppiness of dress and poor hygiene. My buddy Geoff has depression but none of these symptoms. I have all the symptoms and traits of a schizophrenic and there are many so I gotta be honest it sounds like schizophrenia.
I hope that your path will become clear for you brother.
 

supreme bean

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I dont think your gonna find any tranquility or wisdom.Yogis train for years under the tuition of a master.I do meditation-It helped
me resolve my anger issues towards my parents.In that respect i found some peace of mind.It didnt prepare me for a life of
solitude in the wilds.I was also an infantry soldier for 5 years,Perhaps that experience could prepare me for the life of hardship
-you intend to propose for yourself.
What you gonna do.I assume you have had some serious meditation training.not to mention survival training in the special forces.
A film called INTO THE WILD.Was about a young man who lived in the boonies.he was a half dead skeleton at the end.
obviously you need medical help.you could lookat getting some disability allowance-post diagnosis.
lay it on thick-you might even get some free accomodation.best of luck.
there was a proram i saw about a guy in american who.lived on his own for 6 month.
didnt see another human.spent most of his time .crying and worrying about bears.
tranquility and wisdom bullshit-Unless your name is RAY MEARS MARHARASHI.

Build a pond.Build a hut from raw materials.Make some glass for the windows-Laughable but hardly practicle.Let us know how it goes.
 
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DaSprout

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I dont think your gonna find any tranquility or wisdom.Yogis train for years under the tuition of a master.I do meditation-It helped
me resolve my anger issues towards my parents.In that respect i found some peace of mind.It didnt prepare me for a life of
solitude in the wilds.I was also an infantry soldier for 5 years,Perhaps that experience could prepare me for the life of hardship
-you intend to propose for yourself.
What you gonna do.I assume you have had some serious meditation training.
A film called INTO THE WILD.Was about a young man who lived in the boonies.he was a half dead skeleton at the end.
obviously you need medical help.you could lookat getting some disability allowance-post diagnosis.
lay it on thick-you might even get some free accomodation.best of luck.
there was a proram i saw about a guy in american who.lived on his own for 6 month.
didnt see another human.spent most of his time .crying and worrying about bears.
tranquility and wisdom bullshit-Unless your name is RAY MEARS MARHARASHI.

Build a pond.Build a hut from raw materials.Make some glass for the windows-Laughable but hardly practicle.Let us know how it goes.
@New Age United this maybe the post to set your sights on. I understand that things are not going right for you now. But as the above post states. They could be worse. And intentially doing so may be turn out to be something that you may not be able to comeback from. Or even survive. I can understand what its like to impose one hardship in order to better one's own life. I was homeless for a year. I intentially went into a shelter after squatting in an apartment building storage room for over three months. Here's one idea. Take a month. Leave of absense. Just think. Leave town. Change your environment. Got to Nyrobi. Just dont jump down the rabbit hole.
 

supreme bean

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I agree with Da Sprout.Even a sane person would find it hard to live the life you imagine will bring you peace.Maybe something in your past
has made you anti-social.The fact that you still have friends.Makes me think your a romantic bullshitter.Fuck, if your that keen on dropping out.
go to India.find a meditation master.Or get a shovel and dig your own grave.
 

qwizoking

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honestly you dont sound schizophrenic, nor do the "traits" youve described.


go seek help, get diagnosed, get meds, see a counselor.. hop on disability...apply now, get that backpay later if turned down but apply now


if yiu really wanna just reclude into some shack... go for it.. but thats a side effect of your mental state and will not be a productive decision...i could never stall out like that myself
 

supreme bean

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Go nuts.Stuff it in a pole dancers bikini.
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Nothing wrong with being a hermit. I used to sail solo for months and I loved every second of it. I think as you get older, you learn who your friends are and you don't give a shit about anything else except those close to you. Pretty normal if you ask me. Sounds like you're ready for the next phase of your life. Enjoy it and do what you want. Good luck![/QUOTE]
plenty of people who do solo sailing go crazy-why not encourage a person, with supposed mental health problems,to cut themselves off from society.
enjoy it, and probably die in the process.no doubt you will need a gun too.just in case you get assualted by a hallucination.
 

DaSprout

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Go nuts.Stuff it in a pole dancers bikini.
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Nothing wrong with being a hermit. I used to sail solo for months and I loved every second of it. I think as you get older, you learn who your friends are and you don't give a shit about anything else except those close to you. Pretty normal if you ask me. Sounds like you're ready for the next phase of your life. Enjoy it and do what you want. Good luck!
plenty of people who do solo sailing go crazy-why not encourage a person, with supposed mental health problems,to cut themselves off from society.
enjoy it, and probably die in the process.no doubt you will need a gun too.just in case you get assualted by a hallucination.[/QUOTE]
Get your stinkin' talons off my fork! F'ing pink turles.
 
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