LED lights for 10 x 10 tent will light mover help?
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Stephenj37826
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Depends on budget and yes and no on light mover. Yes they will increase yield. No you couldn't run 2 Lights in that 10x10 and get what your looking for if that's what your asking. I'd be looking to do 2 4x10 rows with isle down the middle. So I'd look for a PPF of 5000-7000 per tent. 5000 with mover would be a pretty good balance honestly.
ttystikk
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A light movers' best feature is that they spread out hot spots and aid in light penetration by changing angles. Multiple COBs on the ceiling will do exactly the same thing, so my experience with light moving tells me that any benefit you'll gain from movers will be slight and not worth the effort- unless you screw up with your choice of emitters and wattage and end up with crazy hotspots. So don't do that.
Finally, consider vertical growing options to maximize your use of space.
Finally, consider vertical growing options to maximize your use of space.
puffenuff
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For the least amount of lights, i'd go with several Apache Tech AT600s per 10x10. Another alternative to consider is BML's Spyder 1200 -- although I believe they have an updated model releasing soon. Be sure to call up the companies as they may offer discounts on multiple lights. Light movers will help
mr.smileyface
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Minimum of 50 real watts per sq foot. U could do 2 1000w hps on a track and do led around it. But ur yield is gonna come from the hps
nogod_
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ttystikk
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If I were in the mood to buy LED lighting, I would only purchase the very newest technology available. No matter what the name on the panel says, if it isn't CXB3590 or equivalent inside, it's not a modern panel.
There's a couple of small manufacturers advertising right here on RIU selling a combo of four CXB3590 COB chips on a 200W driver that I'd recommend;
TastyLED
Johnson grow lights
I'll have the same internal combination of chips and driver as these, only I had the cases built to my own specs since I was ordering so many.
2ANONYMOUS
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i have run multiple light movers in sink to cross paths it takes if i remember correctly 2 mins to do complete cycle 8 foot length ... I tried every possible way and lost yield
movers are a waste of money if you use them for veg they will stretch to fuck
nothing beats direct intensity
now if i had tent like that it would be min 4000 watts would probably run 5000 watts giving me 50 watts per Sq foot imprint
movers are a waste of money if you use them for veg they will stretch to fuck
nothing beats direct intensity
now if i had tent like that it would be min 4000 watts would probably run 5000 watts giving me 50 watts per Sq foot imprint
puffenuff
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Cool bro. Good for you. I still stand by my recommendations and would never recommended either of the lights you mentioned.
ttystikk
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'Good for me'? They aren't my LED companies.
That's because you don't know anything about them. Click the link at the top of just about any page and check them out for yourself.
Frankly, the name on the case doesn't mean beans, other than the build quality of the device. The components all come from other suppliers, which is why I suggested a closer look at what the units are using for chips and how softly they're driven.
Trippyness
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Hey mate, as for the light mover they will not help if your trying to reduce light costs.
As for LED what is your budget?
Whats your growing experience?
You going to be using Hydro or coco or Soil?
Also its all about PAR.
Give me a PM if you want to discuss LED more indepth.
Have a few recommendations depending on budget.
2 lights I suggest are
Kind LED
Mars Pro ( Now have Cree Cob
)
Do your research and always make sure
Also the Illumitex lights are killer if you can afford them.
As for LED what is your budget?
Whats your growing experience?
You going to be using Hydro or coco or Soil?
Also its all about PAR.
Give me a PM if you want to discuss LED more indepth.
Have a few recommendations depending on budget.
2 lights I suggest are
Kind LED
Mars Pro ( Now have Cree Cob
)Do your research and always make sure
Also the Illumitex lights are killer if you can afford them.
ttystikk
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Kind LED isn't treated kindly in the LED forums here, and Mars is treated even worse. Illumitex us designed to be drowned with a firehose, that's only necessary to pass commercial facility inspections- probably not a big requirement and therefore not worth paying for.Hey mate, as for the light mover they will not help if your trying to reduce light costs.
As for LED what is your budget?
Whats your growing experience?
You going to be using Hydro or coco or Soil?
Also its all about PAR.
Give me a PM if you want to discuss LED more indepth.
Have a few recommendations depending on budget.
2 lights I suggest are
Kind LED
Mars Pro ( Now have Cree Cob
Do your research and always make sure
Also the Illumitex lights are killer if you can afford them.
I mentioned two small startups in a post above; the reason I'm recommending them is because both owners are RIU people, know their shit backwards and forwards, optimized their lighting for what we do here- and because they're part of THIS community, I'm quite sure any warranty issues would be resolved far more efficiently than dealing with a Chinese supplier.
But it's your money. You wanna support some anonymous factory in China or a hard working RIU entrepreneur? Your call.
Greengenes707
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He DIYs and uses the top commercial panel(Apache and a51). Better check your self bro. And get some led grows under your belt.
Puff has been a contributing member showing top notch led grows since you were over at thcfarmer using sodiums.
Glad you've found the train. But get aboard first.
come to think a bit, have you done any respectable led grows yet ? maybe something behind your talk before you learn to walk ?
all I hear is vertical hid ....
ttystikk
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I said nothing about apache panels. I said only what I've heard about the others- and even then it took several people all saying the same thing before I felt comfortable repeating it. I've seen the Illumitex in a commercial setting (Surna) and I was not impressed, to say the least.
This train is longer than you think and I've been walking forward for a long time.
See you up front.
ttystikk
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Come to think a bit, do you have anything positive to contribute? All I ever remember about your posts is that you're on somebody's nuts... for no good reason.
I contribute with what I can ... having been in the lighting game since optimal spectrums were first developed on RIU with T5HOs.
BUT this isn't a question as to what I have contributed, its a matter of YOUR actual growing experience with leds.
Do you have any ?
Do you even realize that the primary reason for hid vertical grows is because its the only way to get around the reflector penalty ?
ttystikk
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I realize a great deal about vertical growing, having done it for years. The reasoning you mentioned may have been justification for some, but I turned to vertical growing for different reasons. The approach has been meeting my needs effectively.
Just checked. It seems I've been here longer than you, short timer. Who cares?
yeah don't care, its cool that you have vertical dialed in.
ttystikk
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I can't wait to see how it works with the COB setup. Don't think I don't appreciate all the effort people like you and Puff have put in over the years to find the good stuff, prove it works and get the good word out.
I'm standing on the shoulders of many giants, and the view rocks!