So which kind of mobilephone you use? Did you have a chinese fake rebrand phone, due cheap price? Or did you have some quality made by some serious manufacturer? I am sure, you do not have a crappy fake china phone. And your phone you use only to call. You want to grow plants with chinese crap do it.For me it was basically the price,plus with a little due diligence, I found that most of the epi led lights were created equal regardless of price with a (few) exceptions.
If you think this is great, I am sure you do not know anything about growing! Thats looks not great. It looks like cripple. Sorry man.Wow those really look great,nice job!
Man I've been growing for over 30yrs and if I complement another grower on his efforts why the hell do you care??? Blow off jerk!!!So which kind of mobilephone you use? Did you have a chinese fake rebrand phone, due cheap price? Or did you have some quality made by some serious manufacturer? I am sure, you do not have a crappy fake china phone. And your phone you use only to call. You want to grow plants with chinese crap do it.
If you think this is great, I am sure you do not know anything about growing! Thats looks not great. It looks like cripple. Sorry man.
You are an ass.Another perfectly good thread ruined by all the Mars haters. When did it become wrong to have fun doing a hobby and trying new things?
Oh ya, a real critical thinker reveals the decision making process. Mars is a good match for your style.Simple.... My choice... Bong hit....
For sure cost same. But 400W HPS,MH, Vero or CXB will double up your income of weed in contrast to mars. If you are a beginner, for sure you are happy with Mars lights, because you did not know better. Or you did not know what is possible or better say "normal"I wasn't referring to that. I meant that 400 watts is the same on the electric bill no matter the source. Of course with hid you have the ballast and having to cool it.
If you are pulling 400 from the socket, no matter the source, it will cost the same.
Because there was no efforts! Its look like you want promote Mars or you did not know anything about growing. Whats your numbers (g/W) with HPS last 30 years? And whats your numbers now with Mars? Why you do not understand, that Epistar is less efficient than a HPS? Sure you can upgrade to more watts, but where are your benefits with rising electricity bill?Man I've been growing for over 30yrs and if I complement another grower on his efforts why the hell do you care??? Blow off jerk!!!
With that being said I'm sticking with my led grow lights and you keep growing with (street lights) who GAF! Do what works for you and I'll the same, if we wanted every suggestion to be led sucks go HID we probably would be in another room( maybe) the HID room ya think.Because there was no efforts! Its look like you want promote Mars or you did not know anything about growing. Whats your numbers (g/W) with HPS last 30 years? And whats your numbers now with Mars? Why you do not understand, that Epistar is less efficient than a HPS? Sure you can upgrade to more watts, but where are your benefits with rising electricity bill?
Had you a look on my avatar? Is it a HID? I tell you, your epistar light is less efficient. Less than HID. Some COB like CREE or Bridgelux same or more efficient as HID. Can you answer my question? Have you same efforts with Mars as your 30 years HID experience? If not, why did you switch? I never hear from HID grower who make the switch, that mars rocks! Your HID efforts have to be so bad, that you prefer mars. I am sure LED can rock HID, but not a cheap crappy chinese LED like mars.With that being said I'm sticking with my led grow lights and you keep growing with (street lights) who GAF! Do what works for you and I'll the same, if we wanted every suggestion to be led sucks go HID we probably would be in another room( maybe) the HID room ya think.
The marshydro stuff works just fine,the cost doesn't hurt, heat is not a big deal and my plants love it. No street lights in my home,those were the bygone days. If anyone wants to try the marshydro lights I say go for it and keep the street lights were they belong" outside on the pole". P.s. Have you looked at my avatar???Had you a look on my avatar? Is it a HID? I tell you, your epistar light is less efficient. Less than HID. Some COB like CREE or Bridgelux same or more efficient as HID. Can you answer my question? Have you same efforts with Mars as your 30 years HID experience? If not, why did you switch? I never hear from HID grower who make the switch, that mars rocks! Your HID efforts have to be so bad, that you prefer mars
Your logic is straight assholery. "Wrong" has never entered into it nor has "fun" or "trying new things". Getting informed feedback that stings is part of learning.
I have a perfect condition 900w mars it draws 510w it grows flowers and it is for sale. Ive used it in a 2x4 and it works. Any offers?
Yeah, all these people who actually have research and data to back up their claims, fuck those guys, right? I know that when I'm doing research on something, I will only listen to some twat who bought a hundred dollar LED and says he's growing great nugs with it, but can't explain anything about how it works. And I'm also going to take that same twat's word that his definition of great nugs matches up anywhere remotely to mine. Nah, seriously, fuck those guys who actually research the parts and data and figure out what's actually happening on an electrical draw standpoint, a heat dissipation and a light density and spread standpoint. No, I will not listen to anyone who has actually done the research on these lights, and would recommend me spend my money on a product that is better in every way, shape and/or form.
Fuck those guys, right?
The research, data, and info is great. It's the delivery and getting mad at a newbie for wanting to try something out for himself is what I have a problem with not your point. Try a different strain with a more uplifting high.Your logic is straight assholery. "Wrong" has never entered into it nor has "fun" or "trying new things". Getting informed feedback that stings is part of learning.
I have a perfect condition 900w mars it draws 510w it grows flowers and it is for sale. Ive used it in a 2x4 and it works. Any offers?
Platinum is just another epi-whatever light. However, what sets Platinum apart is that it's not a very honest company. They are (or were) a deliberate name-ripoff of AdvancedLED, a reputable light which uses Cree diodes.Platinum LED!!!!!!!
bro try a circle jerk or a support group if you need love or someone to care about your problemsThe research, data, and info is great. It's the delivery and getting mad at a newbie for wanting to try something out for himself is what I have a problem with not your point. Try a different strain with a more uplifting high.