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Not GOP

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Everyone seems to think all "presidential vacations" are equal and how often have we heard "yea but Bush has taken a lot more vacations then Obama"!!!

But the following FACTS show that Bush spent MORE of his "vacation" days at his HOME or parents home... NOT some expensive hotel etc.
spending millions of tax payers dollars!

"It should be noted that no sitting modern president, including President Roosevelt, can ever take a vacation. Simply being away from the White House does not constitute a vacation. "
Obama's Vacations? Of Any President, Bush Racked Up the Most | Politic365

What is the MAJOR,MAJOR difference though between Bush's vacations and Obama?
Taxpayers pay for MOST of Obama's vacation visits to Ca.,FL. Ireland, Africa, Hawaii,Martha's vineyard,Aspen,et.al. and how many times has Obama been to his home in Chicago?

He will likely miss the place: According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, today's trip marks Mr. Bush's 149th visit to the presidential retreat.
The planned three-day stay, during which the president is being joined by family and former and current aides, will bring his total time spent at Camp David to all or part of 487 days.

Yes, that's 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there. 26 at Kennebunkport, Maine.

Obama has made 33 visits to the official Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland, totaling all or part of 84 days.
Knoller does not count Camp David trips as vacation.;)
487 Days At Camp David For Bush - CBS News

So between the Crawford,Texas HOME that GWB owns and Kennebunkport HOME that his Father owns, Bush spent 516 days of the "vacation" days
ON he and his family's OWNED property... NONE of which required hotel deposits, hotel payments for the Bush Family!
Remember these VACATION DAYS were to their homes!

OBAMA???
Obama begins a nine-day vacation on Marthas Vineyard, Mass., where he spent summer vacation in each of the first three years of his presidency.
He skipped his annual Vineyard vacation during last years re-election campaign. (Remember.. getting re-elected more important then being President!!!)
Washington - By The Numbers: Obama's and Bush's Presidential Vacations

Remember THESE ARE ALL to VACATION SPOTS... All on the tax payer tab for hotels, entertainment, security, food,etc...

NONE of which would apply to the times GWB spent at Crawford or Kennebunkport... and remember Bush was working just as Obama said HE WAS working!
It's just Obama goes to places that COST TAXPAYERS... Bush went to his home or his Dad's home at NO hotel/lodging,food,entertainment cost to the tax payers!

Africa vacation..2013
Judicial Watch Obtains Documents: Secret Service Tab for Obama Family 2013 Africa Trip Cost Taxpayers $2,189,727.60 for Lodging, Entertainment, and Security
2014 Palm Springs Key Largo
Judicial Watch Obtains Records Revealing Obamas 2014 Palm Springs and Key Largo Golf Outings Cost Taxpayers $2,952,278 for Flight Expenses Alone
Records Reveal Obamas; Ireland Trip Cost Taxpayers $7,921,638.66

President Obamas June 2013 trip to Belfast, Ireland, including a Dublin sightseeing side trip by Michelle Obama, her daughters, and her entourage, cost the taxpayers $7,921,638.66.

JW Obtains Docs from Secret Service Regarding Security Costs for Obamas Date Night in New York City

$11,648.17 in security costs related to President Obama date night with First Lady Michelle Obama on May 30, 2009 in New York City.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Revealing Cost of Barack and Michelle Obamas Failed Bid to Bring 2016 Olympics to Chicago

Expenses for the two-week trip appear to have far exceeded $467,175, in light of the fact that costs associated with the aircrafts two Boeing 747s and several Air Force cargo planes have not been made available.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Revealing Obama 2013 Africa Trip and Honolulu Vacation Cost Taxpayers $15,885,585.30 for Flight Expenses Alone

The Obama family 2013-2014 vacation to Honolulu cost $210,877 per hour for travel alone; at 36.9 total hours, the cost to taxpayers for the vacations flight expense was $7,781,361.30

Obama, Biden Presidents Day Weekend Vacations Cost Taxpayers $295,437 According to Records Obtained by Judicial Watch

President Obama spent the Presidents Day Weekend (February 15-18) on a golf trip in West Palm Beach, Florida. First Lady Michelle Obama and her daughters spent the same holiday weekend on a ski trip in Aspen, Colorado. Vice President Biden and his family spent that weekend skiing in Aspen

JW Reveals Obamas 2013 Vacations Cost Taxpayers $7,396,531

Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained flight expense records from the U.S. Department of the Air Force revealing that President Obama incurred $7,396,531.20 in flight expenses alone for his 2013 vacations to Hawaii and Marthas Vineyard and his trip to California to appear on the Jay Leno Show.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Detailing the Cost to Taxpayers for Michelle Obamas Family Trip to Africa

On June 28, 2011, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request seeking the mission taskings, transportation records, and passenger manifests for Michelle Obamas Africa trip. Documents were only provided after Judicial Watch filed suit.

Malia Obama Vacations In Mexico With 25 Secret Service Agents
Keeping with the Obama familys penchant for costly vacations, the presidents 13-year-old daughter enjoyed spring break in a country plagued by so much violence that the State Department has issued travel warnings to discourage Americans from going there.

Michelle Obamas August 2010 Vacation in Spain Cost American Taxpayers $467,585 According to Records Obtained by Judicial Watch
Judicial Watch obtained documents from the United States Air Force and the United States Secret Service detailing costs associated with Michelle Obamas controversial August 2010 vacation to Spain. According to a Judicial Watch analysis, the records indicate a total combined cost of at least $467,585.

Michelle Obamas Family Ski Trip to Aspen, Colorado Cost Taxpayers at Least $83 Thousand Say Records Obtained by Judicial Watch

As U.S. taxpayers dish out millions for President Obamas lavish Hawaiian vacation crushing year-end statistics reveal unprecedented government debt and a myriad of waste that should outrage all Americans.
First Family Vacations | Judicial Watch


As of March 2014, Obama has spent more time traveling internationally than any other president, taking 31 trips since assuming office in 2009.
The 119 days spent overseas have cost taxpayers millions of dollars.
How Many Taxpayer Dollars Obama's Have Spent On Vacations | The Federalist Papers

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Siino Gardens

Siino Gardens

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Rob you really need to just admit that having sex with children is not acceptable. I mean for the love of all that is great, why do I have to keep reading uncle buck calling you a pedophile.
 
ASCIIGHOST

ASCIIGHOST

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Rob Roy said:
It's funny how you've assigned me the garb of a Republican. Do you know any other jokes?

You of course know that your constitution prohibits a standing army in the USA right and that acts of war are supposed to be via a declaration ?

Do you support foreign aggression and the military industrial complex?
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A standing Navy is all that's allowed by the constitution.

Anyone who thinks you need to fight to keep things peaceful is ignorant to the military concept of blowback. Military strategy isn't something stoners are gonna know much about. Pot is mainstream and doesnt include a subculture anymore just typical TV watching CD listening sheep.
 
ASCIIGHOST

ASCIIGHOST

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Uncle Ben said:
I blame ANY president for security breaches, internal and external violent attacks on our interests, people and property........ lack of military leadership, and indirectly for the state of the economy - not wanting or being able to balance a budget whether that's via his role model, policies, or influence on Congress to act. In that regard, Obama has failed on all accounts IMO.

Now that the world is in a state of chaos thanks to Islamic terrorism, any military or intelligence action taken now by Obama is a little too late. How many Generals has he retired because he didn't like what they were recommending?
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They retired to take jobs with defense contractors not because they hate Obama like you wish they did. They obey orders or money. What's so hard to understand about that,,?
 
ASCIIGHOST

ASCIIGHOST

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The_Herban_Legend said:
Exactly! I really think we, the American government, are and have been strategically keeping the middle east unstable and volatile. I truly believe the terrorism we are experiencing on a global scale is what the American government wants. Why? Not sure yet but I have my suspicions.
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Why? Simple. So stronger, private forces can operate within an otherwise sovern nation. Take away the problematic government by force and do what ya want. Who's gonna stop you, ?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Not GOP said:
Everyone seems to think all "presidential vacations" are equal and how often have we heard "yea but Bush has taken a lot more vacations then Obama"!!!

But the following FACTS show that Bush spent MORE of his "vacation" days at his HOME or parents home... NOT some expensive hotel etc.
spending millions of tax payers dollars!

"It should be noted that no sitting modern president, including President Roosevelt, can ever take a vacation. Simply being away from the White House does not constitute a vacation. "
Obama's Vacations? Of Any President, Bush Racked Up the Most | Politic365

What is the MAJOR,MAJOR difference though between Bush's vacations and Obama?
Taxpayers pay for MOST of Obama's vacation visits to Ca.,FL. Ireland, Africa, Hawaii,Martha's vineyard,Aspen,et.al. and how many times has Obama been to his home in Chicago?

He will likely miss the place: According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, today's trip marks Mr. Bush's 149th visit to the presidential retreat.
The planned three-day stay, during which the president is being joined by family and former and current aides, will bring his total time spent at Camp David to all or part of 487 days.

Yes, that's 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there. 26 at Kennebunkport, Maine.

Obama has made 33 visits to the official Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland, totaling all or part of 84 days.
Knoller does not count Camp David trips as vacation.;)
487 Days At Camp David For Bush - CBS News

So between the Crawford,Texas HOME that GWB owns and Kennebunkport HOME that his Father owns, Bush spent 516 days of the "vacation" days
ON he and his family's OWNED property... NONE of which required hotel deposits, hotel payments for the Bush Family!
Remember these VACATION DAYS were to their homes!

OBAMA???
Obama begins a nine-day vacation on Marthas Vineyard, Mass., where he spent summer vacation in each of the first three years of his presidency.
He skipped his annual Vineyard vacation during last years re-election campaign. (Remember.. getting re-elected more important then being President!!!)
Washington - By The Numbers: Obama's and Bush's Presidential Vacations

Remember THESE ARE ALL to VACATION SPOTS... All on the tax payer tab for hotels, entertainment, security, food,etc...

NONE of which would apply to the times GWB spent at Crawford or Kennebunkport... and remember Bush was working just as Obama said HE WAS working!
It's just Obama goes to places that COST TAXPAYERS... Bush went to his home or his Dad's home at NO hotel/lodging,food,entertainment cost to the tax payers!

Africa vacation..2013
Judicial Watch Obtains Documents: Secret Service Tab for Obama Family 2013 Africa Trip Cost Taxpayers $2,189,727.60 for Lodging, Entertainment, and Security
2014 Palm Springs Key Largo
Judicial Watch Obtains Records Revealing Obamas 2014 Palm Springs and Key Largo Golf Outings Cost Taxpayers $2,952,278 for Flight Expenses Alone
Records Reveal Obamas; Ireland Trip Cost Taxpayers $7,921,638.66

President Obamas June 2013 trip to Belfast, Ireland, including a Dublin sightseeing side trip by Michelle Obama, her daughters, and her entourage, cost the taxpayers $7,921,638.66.

JW Obtains Docs from Secret Service Regarding Security Costs for Obamas Date Night in New York City

$11,648.17 in security costs related to President Obama date night with First Lady Michelle Obama on May 30, 2009 in New York City.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Revealing Cost of Barack and Michelle Obamas Failed Bid to Bring 2016 Olympics to Chicago

Expenses for the two-week trip appear to have far exceeded $467,175, in light of the fact that costs associated with the aircrafts two Boeing 747s and several Air Force cargo planes have not been made available.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Revealing Obama 2013 Africa Trip and Honolulu Vacation Cost Taxpayers $15,885,585.30 for Flight Expenses Alone

The Obama family 2013-2014 vacation to Honolulu cost $210,877 per hour for travel alone; at 36.9 total hours, the cost to taxpayers for the vacations flight expense was $7,781,361.30

Obama, Biden Presidents Day Weekend Vacations Cost Taxpayers $295,437 According to Records Obtained by Judicial Watch

President Obama spent the Presidents Day Weekend (February 15-18) on a golf trip in West Palm Beach, Florida. First Lady Michelle Obama and her daughters spent the same holiday weekend on a ski trip in Aspen, Colorado. Vice President Biden and his family spent that weekend skiing in Aspen

JW Reveals Obamas 2013 Vacations Cost Taxpayers $7,396,531

Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained flight expense records from the U.S. Department of the Air Force revealing that President Obama incurred $7,396,531.20 in flight expenses alone for his 2013 vacations to Hawaii and Marthas Vineyard and his trip to California to appear on the Jay Leno Show.

Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Detailing the Cost to Taxpayers for Michelle Obamas Family Trip to Africa

On June 28, 2011, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request seeking the mission taskings, transportation records, and passenger manifests for Michelle Obamas Africa trip. Documents were only provided after Judicial Watch filed suit.

Malia Obama Vacations In Mexico With 25 Secret Service Agents
Keeping with the Obama familys penchant for costly vacations, the presidents 13-year-old daughter enjoyed spring break in a country plagued by so much violence that the State Department has issued travel warnings to discourage Americans from going there.

Michelle Obamas August 2010 Vacation in Spain Cost American Taxpayers $467,585 According to Records Obtained by Judicial Watch
Judicial Watch obtained documents from the United States Air Force and the United States Secret Service detailing costs associated with Michelle Obamas controversial August 2010 vacation to Spain. According to a Judicial Watch analysis, the records indicate a total combined cost of at least $467,585.

Michelle Obamas Family Ski Trip to Aspen, Colorado Cost Taxpayers at Least $83 Thousand Say Records Obtained by Judicial Watch

As U.S. taxpayers dish out millions for President Obamas lavish Hawaiian vacation crushing year-end statistics reveal unprecedented government debt and a myriad of waste that should outrage all Americans.
First Family Vacations | Judicial Watch


As of March 2014, Obama has spent more time traveling internationally than any other president, taking 31 trips since assuming office in 2009.
The 119 days spent overseas have cost taxpayers millions of dollars.
How Many Taxpayer Dollars Obama's Have Spent On Vacations | The Federalist Papers

hat tip - healthmyths
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tldr
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Siino Gardens said:
Rob you really need to just admit that having sex with children is not acceptable. I mean for the love of all that is great, why do I have to keep reading uncle buck calling you a pedophile.
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I certainly don't endorse it.

Uncle Buck does that because he's crying for attention and has insecurity and masculinity issues, plus he's been known to be incontinent from time to time.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Fogdog said:
Ok, I'm all in for socialized health care. What are you so afraid of?
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Maybe everything should be socialized?

Whatcha got in your fridge, ?... I'm getting a little hungry.... and tell your old lady to bring me a beer after she's done with my laundry...get a move on son!!

What are you so afraid of?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ASCIIGHOST said:
A standing Navy is all that's allowed by the constitution.

Anyone who thinks you need to fight to keep things peaceful is ignorant to the military concept of blowback. Military strategy isn't something stoners are gonna know much about. Pot is mainstream and doesnt include a subculture anymore just typical TV watching CD listening sheep.
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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see4 said:
Unicorn shit tastes like ice cream, and I don't particularly like Bernie Sanders, he's not my candidate. And remember, Bernie is the representative of the people, technically his constituents are voting for a bloated military, just as the rest of the nation who has voted Republican, has decided.

You familiar with John Locke? How about the term 'state of nature'? You should go read up on those topics.
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I am familiar with John Locke. One of his books is now gathering dust in my library.

No, Bernie voted to fund more death, it was kind of cute how you tried to grant him immunity from his actions though.
 
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