1. Autoflowers are short. Epi-whatever LEDs work better for short plants.
2. It's convenient (again) for you to point to awesome grows without any information about the power used to achieve that awesomeness.
I don't feel like I'm "hating" by pointing out that you guys were talkng about running between 56 and 72w/sq ft.
If someone wants to do that, that's fine. Where's the hate in that?
It seems like you want to keep that information out of it. And, anyone who mentions it is a "hater." Isn't that a hate of reality?
Who really gives a fuck about efficiency, unless your a closet grower trying to keep the power bill down so that your mommy and daddy don't catch on , Right Seriously now ,, Mars would not be around as long as they have if the light didn't grow ,, So who is really hating ??
You know,, It seems really that only ones bitching about Mars is the Cob growers ,
Mind you they bitch about pretty much everything
Screaming Efficiency ,,,, Truth is for many means diddly Squat ..
Yup the Hid killers them ones with wires sticking out of there Diy crap
Just waiting for one of these Diy units to start a house fire ...
But 1000 watt Hid killers
Scream scream Efficiency,, brag about your 300 watt Diy @ 800 bucks haha jesus christ
you know 1000 watt mag reflector kit with bulb 150.00 bucks and 2.5 pounds
Cause really its all about the numbers at the end of a grow GPW means nothing
So just think for 1 - 300 watt or what ever Cob unit for 800 bucks you could of had 5000 watts of shitty HPS hahaha and pull 12.5 pounds every 90 days Right
Like i said 430 bucks is what cost me to make 3 pound harvest in 10 weeks 1200 watt Nano
and like i said before how much would it cost to make a Cob unit to do 10 week 3 pound harvests ????
So is there really haters ??? i guess if your a cob growers spending that much on 1 unit i am sure , But keep screaming Efficiency like it really means something like for some hobby grower.. Who is so worried about 3.00 or 10 bucks a month on savings is going to make you believe hahaha
for that price 2 - 900 watt Mars for same cost as one diy Cob unit would probably beat it