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UncleBuck

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Lol. Do you spin in circles while your arms are flailing? I see spit forming on your bottom lip as you conjure up the next lie.
ted cruz spews hateful, racist vitriol all the time.

the white pride march date surrounded him on the picture you chose as an avatar.

please point out anything i have said there which is untrue, not-so-brave-dave.
 

bravedave

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ted cruz spews hateful, racist vitriol all the time.

the white pride march date surrounded him on the picture you chose as an avatar.

please point out anything i have said there which is untrue, not-so-brave-dave.
Nothing you are saying is true! I appreciate your consistency.
 

UncleBuck

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OMG!!!! You mày be on to something! Umm, did you crop the Cruz poster for any reason? Fraud maybe? Lol
no, the right wing racist standing in front of the white power pride date was the avatar you chose for yourself. remember how you cried for months about it before changing your white power avatar?

i can quote a million posts where we discussed your white power avatar.
 

bravedave

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no, the right wing racist standing in front of the white power pride date was the avatar you chose for yourself. remember how you cried for months about it before changing your white power avatar?

i can quote a million posts where we discussed your white power avatar.
Cool, lets see them. It would be a nice demonstration of the consistent misrepresentation and fraud you utilized while trolling me ever since I joined here.
 

UncleBuck

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Cool, lets see them. It would be a nice demonstration of the consistent misrepresentation and fraud you utilized while trolling me ever since I joined here.
i don't really see a point to that, as you do not let facts or reality bother you in any way whatsoever.
 

bravedave

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i don't really see a point to that, as you do not let facts or reality bother you in any way whatsoever.
That's correct. Facts and reality do not bother me...because they back me up. The truth could set even you free. You should try to work it in sometime.
 

Dr. Who

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Wow...how ignorant of you. Cruz, like him or not, is probably the smartest guy in the Senate. How many cases have you argued in front of the Supreme Court? He also leans Libertarian when it comes to our military. Don't believe me? How about big-time lefty Alan Dershowitz?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/dershowitz-tex-cruz-one-of-harvard-laws-smartest-students/
Liberty and Freedoms are lost when the government gets bigger. How strange to think one man will take it away and then vote for a party that wants nothing more than to grow goverment.

As for Rubio, his Cuba stance was never a secret and his constituents who voted him in were never left guessing how he would vote. He is also a bit closer to the issue than you, I, or Obama. With the leadership change and for that matter the age of Raul, a little more patience might have resulted in more consessions from the COMMUNIST DICTATOR and less from us. Just another horrible Obama decision. Did he check with all who voted for HIM??? NO!!!! He didn't even bother with Congress. The more I think about it the weaker your sauce gets. You are a sorry propagandist.

In any case, both are far better than the LIAR and the socialist.

Oh and maybe list all the Crusades you mention. You seem to know very little about them. Or better yet go educate yourself here:
Your non personal views about topics that have been absorbed by the blind views of those who appear to be in power and appear to have true knowledge on the topic are as head up the ass as can be....

Get a fucking pair and THINK FOR YOURSELF for a change!
Cuba is in shambles - the Russians have LONG since gone and so has every other "Communist" power that influenced the regime. Castro came to us first and asked for help - WE pissed on him and he went "commie"......We made our own bed on that...So all their "buddies" have left them....they come crawling to US for friendship (after decades) holding out THEIR hand and you want to piss on their hand again?
Great foreign policy for the rest of the world to see us as friendly and benevolent....That would just make wonderful press!
Things change and times change.....Time we set things aside and get back in there and do what we do best.....Make money from the place.....

As far as congress goes - fuck them all and all of the red and blue parties political views - actually they don't really have any! It's all point the finger at each other and blaming while NOTHING really GETS DONE !!

As far as crusades go - it's debatable to 8 or 9 .....I just thew a number out to make the point - educate your self..

The numbering of the Crusades is debated, with some historians counting seven major Crusades and a number of minor ones from 1096 to 1291.[2] Others consider the Fifth Crusade of Frederick II as two crusades, making the crusade launched by Louis IX in 1270 the Eighth Crusade. Sometimes the Eighth Crusade is considered two, the second of which is the Ninth Crusade.

Kinda sad those crusades - Killing of Muslims and Jews in the name of Jesus....
You do know we Christians, Jews and Muslims pray to the same God right? Don't believe me? The Catholic church says so. The Jewish say so and so do real Muslims!

YOUR republican presidents buried us in the muck of the middle east THEY collapsed and destabilized! Terrorism is ripe and those who preach it are bloated with those whose lives WE turned upside down by destroying the status quo of the areas involved.

Why do you think Bush 1 didn't "finish the job" in Iraq??? FOR THE DAMN REASON WE HAVE NOW! Destabilization and getting stuck in a long term quagmire!
Bush 2 went in and destroyed the whole thing as far as stability of the region and that degraded further as a result of Iraq being gone! The Russians and the Saudi's NEVER wanted that to happen and feared exactly what HAS happened.
Putin and the Russians are RIGHT about Syria! Go in and beat Isis and leave the idiot in power as we need the stability he provides in the region MORE then our influence!

The cry of destroy the terrorist Isis is fine but, I fear the religious rights pervasive view that "Muslims" are terrorists will lead us to a new war that will not be a good one! One we can and should avoid! Founded on a lie (sound familiar Bush lover?) and brought to the for front by evangelical politicians.....

Religion has no place in political law making! Religious, moral based issues are best decided in you home or your church.
I'm tired of losing my freedom of choice - for any choice...THAT'S what out country was found on and it's being lost -slowly, everyday.
 

Uncle Ben

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Bush 2 went in and destroyed the whole thing as far as stability of the region and that degraded further as a result of Iraq being gone!
That's a bunch of ignorant bullshit, and you know it. Once Iraq was stabilized, secured against the daily suicide attacks in markets and such, Bush established cultural, economic, free market security and stability in Iraq, handed a stabilized country over to Obama who then failed in certain agreements, pulled out more troops than what's in Korea, Germany and such, traded traitor Bergdahl for terrorists, let terrorists out of Gitmo who are now on the terrorist battle field and enabled ISIS to rule in the place of stability.

Read the last couple of chapters of Charles Krauthammer's book, "Things That Matter". He puts it all together from the invasion to how Obama has fucked up the entire Middle East. He articulates who the key players were, the deals made, the deals that should have been executed but never were, the failure to act, etc.
 
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bravedave

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That's a bunch of ignorant bullshit, and you know it. Bush gave financial, security and stability to Iraq, handed it over to Obama who then failed in certain agreements, pulled out more troops than what's in Korea, Germany and such, traded Bergdahl for terrorists, let terrorists out of Gitmo who are now on the terrorist battle field and allowed ISIS to rule in the place of stability.

Read the last couple of chapters of Charles Krauthammer's book, "Things That Matter". He puts it all together from the invasion to how Obama has fucked the whole thing Middle East. Articulates who were the players, the deals, the deals that should have been executed, the failure to act, etc.
Thanks...I was letting Christmas pass before I addressed Who's load of bullshit...fortunately you left some to shovel and throw back on his wagon.
 
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kelly4

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so you didn't have this as your avatar?



that right winger spews racist hatred all the time, and the date that surrounds him is white pride parade day.

these are just facts, simpleton.
There's a White pride day? Parades?

Are they as fun as Gay pride parades look?
 

Dr. Who

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That's a bunch of ignorant bullshit, and you know it. Bush gave financial, security and stability to Iraq, handed it over to Obama who then failed in certain agreements, pulled out more troops than what's in Korea, Germany and such, traded Bergdahl for terrorists, let terrorists out of Gitmo who are now on the terrorist battle field and allowed ISIS to rule in the place of stability.

Read the last couple of chapters of Charles Krauthammer's book, "Things That Matter". He puts it all together from the invasion to how Obama has fucked the whole thing Middle East. Articulates who were the players, the deals, the deals that should have been executed, the failure to act, etc.
I don't agree Ben.
The whole point that even Bush 1 used as a reason to not take out Saddam was the fact of destabilization regionally AND the FACT that we would have been stuck over there in a MAJOR way with boots on the ground and the huge financial burden it put on us....How many billions did Halliburton "steal" from the Fed? How many went out to swindling locals?
So you would have our son's and daughters still out there dying for what? A non stable "stability"? We would be stuck there overseeing the country for decades to come!

The facts are WAY clear on this one.....There were NO weapons of "Mass Destruction"! Chaney knew that and still sold it to the moron Bush 2 (Even his FATHER B1 said he was wrong for invading!) and then to everyone else with the help of CIA cronies! To the rest of the free world too! Their pissed over that one still...If the invasion never happened - we would not even HAVE an Isis!

Let me clue you in on something here.....The last thing we need now or in the future is having troops mired down in large numbers in overseas countries spreading our defensive capabilities out over large area's and not having the ability to respond to a REAL crisis in a timely manor.....Russia, China and N. Korea would love that!

What we did do by having this little "war" was to play into the hands OF Iran, by destabilizing the REGION! And I mean a whole big region. The "Arab Spring" that started in Tunisia and toppled Governments in Libya and Egypt (just to name a few) lead to a "fallout" that then became an Arab winter with the start of the civil war in Syria. At first it appeared that this maybe a good thing but,,as usual,,Our dreams became nightmares that opened the door to so many differing radical Islamic views that we have the radical Islamist terrorist groups we have today! In the exact area's WE lead to destabilization BY removing Saddam! It is MOST likely NONE of this would have happened if we let that go!!!!

Oh, and btw. WE began the worlds heroin epidemic by NOT stopping the local Afgan's from growing poppies again (The Taliban forbid it by the Muslim law of "You shall not produce anything that will "hurt" other humans {even non-Mulims}!) !!

WE opened that door and no misinformed right wing writer can pull the wool over my eye's! What exactly gives us the RIGHT to play with the future of the world. We are NOT and never HAVE BEEN the worlds police force! We need to put our ego's in our pockets and start looking to problems HERE at home...

Ever heard of Khalkhin-Gol? The Battle of - 1939?

The Japanese were into Russia in what had been "border conflicts" starting to be serious in 1938.....In 1939 the Japanese had settled in an area around a bend in the KhalKhin - Gol (Gol is river in Russian) around 10 miles inside Russian territory. With tit for tat battles beginning in May of 39 with defeats for both sides rising from ambush's and head on attacks.
The Soviets dispatched then "ComCor" (Core Commander) Georgy Zukhof to the region to sport the problem out. Zukhof brought in air support. In June the Japanese (actually their allies the Manchucoans) took the offensive and sent the Japanese air core in and destroyed a Soviet air base...

In August the Japanese took the offensive and crossed the river to the North and established a bridge head. Zukhof responded by massing forces including Trucks, Armor, and Artillery (The first MASSED arty attack that the Russian's later adopted as their "first strike" of an attack) and attacked from the south. While this surprised the Japanese commander of the rear guard it quickly became a stalemate.

Zukhof then pulled in more armor etc. and in short finally won. Forcing the Japanese out for the rest of the war.

The point is this. If Hitler knew this was going on it would have been the GOLDEN opportunity to invade from the east and dispatch the now very thin force's in the Soviet east as most were sent west.
The other is that if the Japanese HAD won the day. When Hitler did attack it would have been MUCH shorter and we most likely would all be speaking German and Sieg Heil-ing everywhere.

Never open yourself to protracted multiple front force deployment in the big world.....Your "neighbors" could come knocking just when you don't want them to!

Your irrational hate for Obama and his programs etc. Have been sprung from Reagonistic "Moral majority" fear mongering....
FUCK Obama! Stop the hating and open your eye's to what's really happening!

QUIT the stupid partisanship and lets get REAL candidates to address REAL issues and do some REAL fixing of the things that NEED to be done.....Infrastructure, education, return of banking and financial laws that again would prevent what happened in 08.
It's time to END the gravy train for BIG CORPORATIONS! (What did GE pay in tax's last year?). To DO some protective laws and limit them from running oversea's to hide there money from taxation! Ben, You must "see" that the Rich and powerfull "own" congress and have now since Reagan manipulated the laws to make nothing put profits that help no one but themselves!
Our country goes broke while it's people get poorer and the middle class disappears into the poverty class....We (our country sells bonds and loans to China at staggering rates and what happens if they knock on the door and say pay up? The're playing a play out of our own world play book......help out those nations that need it and when they can't pay - You OWN'em) need to cut the crap and get to work on reality...

Our political system has been manipulated for money and greed....There is NO MORE "By the people, For the people"!! NONE!
Abe Lincoln created the "Republican" party and I bet dimes to dollars the poor guy is ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE over what it has become!

I'm neither Rep or Dem and lean more right them left.....but this shit is simply stupid!

I'm on your side - really 8)
 

Harrekin

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There's a White pride day? Parades?

Are they as fun as Gay pride parades look?
You can join in in the pride parades even if you're not gay, it'd be kind of ironic if they excluded you because of your sexuality...

It's good fun too, you don't even have to take a dick in the ass!
 

Uncle Ben

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You can join in in the pride parades even if you're not gay, it'd be kind of ironic if they excluded you because of your sexuality...

It's good fun too, you don't even have to take a dick in the ass!
Guess who me and my straight friends are betting on?

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