MAYDAY!MAYDAY!! 6th week FLOWERING 70% yellow leaves

[MightyMumra]

My first organic grow I used a hi p hi k bloom nutrient as well which threw out the ph so badly by around week 6 my plants were showing serious deficiencies. Living soil hates anything with high npk values. Sounds like you are having similar issues. The only thing that helped was to give straight RO water for a couple weeks; the plants recovered somewhat but with small yields. Once you go to using nutes your organic soil is no longer benefitting the plant until you can flush out the dissolved salts & get it active once again.

It feels like wasted time. Im defintiley not expecting high yield im worried about the quality now. thanks for the insight !!!

 

[green_machine_two9er]

room temp is 73. Whats crazy is that the burn came after i flushed. it stopped burning. i just havent cut off the leaves

It feels like wasted time. Im defintiley not expecting high yield im worried about the quality now. thanks for the insight !!!

Not wasted if you take knowledge to next grow. If your new try to dial in everything next round. Focus on enviroment first. Temp. Hum. Air circulation. Lighting. Ec. Than once your room is spot on try some nee training techniques. From scratch soils. Start a worm bin. For fresh ewc. And aquire top shelf genetics. This is so much more important than many growers believe.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

i disagree with the over watering. i feed 4 -7 or when needed. Lately theyve been thirsty. every 3-4. Burn/Lockout? IDK. i did the same routine as the last grow and somewhere in there something went wrong. Sucks!!!!!

Fabric pots should almost be watered ever other day. Small amounts. I can with nesr certainty say your pots mosy likely had or have dry spots around outside fee inches of container. Thus. Smaller root ball. Lrss nutrients avail. Smallrr plant snd crappu yields.

 

[whitebb2727]

Not wasted if you take knowledge to next grow. If your new try to dial in everything next round. Focus on enviroment first. Temp. Hum. Air circulation. Lighting. Ec. Than once your room is spot on try some nee training techniques. From scratch soils. Start a worm bin. For fresh ewc. And aquire top shelf genetics. This is so much more important than many growers believe.

Exactly.

I have been in and helped and grown vegetable gardens since I could walk.

I make a mistake every once in a while. It happens we are human.

The best we can do is learn from those mistakes and not make them again.

 

[whitebb2727]

Fabric pots should almost be watered ever other day. Small amounts. I can with nesr certainty say your pots mosy likely had or have dry spots around outside fee inches of container. Thus. Smaller root ball. Lrss nutrients avail. Smallrr plant snd crappu yields.

I had a plant last year that got dry spots and got hydrophobic. Chronic under water will make the leaves spotty with brown necrotic spots.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

Exactly.

I have been in and helped and grown vegetable gardens since I could walk.

I make a mistake every once in a while. It happens we are human.

The best we can do is learn from those mistakes and not make them again.

Also. Plants grow themselves. Humans just fuxk shit up. We just needto set up perfect. Thsn get the fuck out the way! Thats my method. And it works. Less i try to get involved the better.

 

[MightyMumra]

You are absolutely correct, knowledge is power. im passionate about the way I take life on. Its a reflection of myself. I wasted minutes by over doing it. Lesson learned. Whats my next step? Ride it out?

 

[whitebb2727]

You are absolutely correct, knowledge is power. im passionate about the way I take life on. Its a reflection of myself. I wasted minutes by over doing it. Lesson learned. Whats my next step? Ride it out?

Yea. Not much else to do.

If you can though get a pic or two the just the mh and maybe it will let us know what direction to go.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

You are absolutely correct, knowledge is power. im passionate about the way I take life on. Its a reflection of myself. I wasted minutes by over doing it. Lesson learned. Whats my next step? Ride it out?

Top dress eith ewc is my #1 step. Maybe a simple aact. 1 gWater 1 tbspmolasses and. 1 cupewc. Bubbled for 36 h. But yeah keep medium most not wet. And water only would be my suggestion.

 

[MightyMumra]

what is ewc and cupewc?

 

[MightyMumra]

Thanks for your guys help. Very informative. This site is a melting pot of experience. Great to be a part of it. I will keep yous posted but you'll probably hear from me sooner then later. lol Gotta go. Have a nice Holiday!!!!

 

[green_machine_two9er]

what is ewc and cupewc?

Earth worm casting s. Or vermicompost. 1 cup in 1 galon water. With 1 tbsp unsulfered molasses. This will give your microherd a huge boost.

 

[Richard Drysift]

It feels like wasted time. Im defintiley not expecting high yield im worried about the quality now. thanks for the insight !!!

All part of the process. Learning what to do means learning what NOT to do too. Keep at it you'll get decent yields in time. Your soil will get better every time you recycle it. I'm still using the same mix I started with but it's been through several harvests already.

 

[oldbikepunk]

Ouch. You got more problems thsm some yellowing. Im guessing your running way to hot. Need to vent your room asap and or add acgallon.

Also 4 weeks isnt to long. I shoot for a 2-3 week veg with 3 g.

I've got plants at months old waiting for room to grow just sitting in one-gallons for convenience-more room. Once you put them in a bigger pot they'll take off. Yellow leaves is good. The plants are using the nutrients held in the leaves. Just pull them off for air-flow when they look like dogshit finally. There's no way to correct it anyway that deep into flowering. It's natural.

 

[Dr. Who]

@MightyMumra

Rich is correct and pointing you the right direction and to the right problem.

High P&K is the culprit for the yellowing! There is really nothing you can do about it now.....maybe some moderate N to attempt to slow the progress.

Why this worked with other seeds and not these is most likely that the first seeds you ran were an Indica/Ind dominate and not a "Haze" (Sativa). Most sativa's are not happy with high nutrient levels and are kinda fussy about feeding! Water only soils work wonders for them! If they lag a bit and show a def. It's easier to add something then take away in growing - ALWAYS!

Simple water only's are really easy to construct and the rule of "less is more" is really true for organics....

I came from organics when I started this a long - long time age and moved over to synthetics years ago and still played with them when I went back to mainly organics a few years back. I dropped ALL synthetics and will never go back now....I mean they work but, I can do just as well with out them and get better taste in the end. Building your own soils is rewarding in all the best ways over synthetic use.

A great place to start with water only organics is this link.

http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/1116550-easy-organic-soil-mix-beginners.html

The methods she outlines are the key to learning just how to adjust into soils built for veg and bloom with Indica's or sativa's.
I have gone back to a 2 soil method with a veg soil and a bloom soil to boost yields and express available coloring traits.
It's simple to do by doing the above with the tomato nutrients above and then building with a "fruit and flower" or a good "Bulb" food for bloom. If you get the gist of she "builds" a dry nutrient you will quickly learn to "build" your own specific NPK ratio nutrients with the proper "release" timing and become VERY happy with your results.....

Organics and water only soils can take time to master. Be patient and give a real read to the above link.

I STRONGLY suggest these books to assist you as a knowledge base for organics.

Teaming With Microbes - The Organic Gardeners Guide to the Soil-Food Web.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1604691131/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687582&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=1931160961&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0ZNWMEWK7JFQJT32EPGE

And

Teaming With Nutrition: The Organic gardeners Guide to Optimizing Plant Nutrition
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Nutrients-Gardeners-Optimizing-Nutrition/dp/1604693142/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y

These three things will help you BIG time to a happy organic growing style.

Good luck Bro!