This is gonna get interesting! Militia takes over Ore. federal building after protest.

OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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whitebb2727 said:
No. I don't support them. That is a separate issue and the Hammond's don't support it either.

They are white supremacist. I don't support that.


I have done stated a crime is not a crime if no one was hurt or damage. Blm testimony states the land was better off after the burn.

Maybe negligence but not arson.

Merriam Webster:

Full Definition of arson
  1. : the willful or malicious burning of property (as a building) especially with criminal or fraudulent intent
You have to have malicious intent. There was none.
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The thing about fire is you need firefighters, a lot die in arson fires.

If you rob a bank, nobody get`s hurt nothing get`s broken, it`s not a crime in your eyes ?


You make an arson law for all, because the death toll tally is real and unseen and very unpredictable.
 
trippnface

trippnface

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i am not going through 14 pages; but if anybody here; on a marijuana forum; is siding with the federal government....

LOLOLOLOL
 
pnwmystery

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whitebb2727 said:
I have done stated a crime is not a crime if no one was hurt or damaged.
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We're on the same page when it comes to the Bundys. However I just want to point out this is not true. Were this the case if I ever got pulled over for speeding and ticketed I could say "No one got hurt," and get off. This is not so. The problem is is that they did endanger people including themselves by doing this.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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OddBall1st said:
The thing about fire is you need firefighters, a lot die in arson fires.

If you rob a bank, nobody get`s hurt nothing get`s broken, it`s not a crime in your eyes ?


You make an arson law for all, because the death toll tally is real and unseen and very unpredictable.
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The bank lost money so it is a crime.

They set fire to their property with no intent to burn public land. It was a plan that was set in motion by the blm themselves.

The other fire was a back burn. You dam right I would back burn if firefighters weren't saving my place.

If a firefighter was killed maybe negligent homicide but no one died.

There was no damage done, no one hurt and no criminal intent.

Now there was plenty of intent when blm flooded homes and farms.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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what if they dug a 50 ft deep hole in the entire 140 acres? how is that any different? the land doesn't belong to them is the main jist of the argument isn't it?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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pnwmystery said:
We're on the same page when it comes to the Bundys. However I just want to point out this is not true. Were this the case if I ever got pulled over for speeding and ticketed I could say "No one got hurt," and get off. This is not so. The problem is is that they did endanger people including themselves by doing this.
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It is not the same.

It would be the same if they were simply fined for the fire.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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So anyone and everyone that accidentally has a grease fire and burn their house down should be charged with arson?

What if its in an apartment complex?

They wouldn't go to prison.
 
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757growin

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whitebb2727 said:
So anyone and everyone that accidentally has a grease fire and burn their house down should be charged with arson?

What if its in an apartment complex?

They wouldn't go to prison.
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You said it in your statement. ACCIDENT. The Hammonds intentionally lit a wildlands fire with no authorization. Horrible comparison to prove your point.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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whitebb2727 said:
The bank lost money so it is a crime.

They set fire to their property with no intent to burn public land. It was a plan that was set in motion by the blm themselves.

The other fire was a back burn. You dam right I would back burn if firefighters weren't saving my place.

If a firefighter was killed maybe negligent homicide but no one died.

There was no damage done, no one hurt and no criminal intent.

Now there was plenty of intent when blm flooded homes and farms.
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You`ll have to forgive me but ,..What does black lives matter have to do with this ? Who did they flood ?

Is it too much to ask that you let someone know when you backburn ? Your phone don`t work or something.

So the eyewitness that testified and was there, ...lied ? On what grounds do you challenge that ?
 
Corso312

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whitebb2727 said:
So anyone and everyone that accidentally has a grease fire and burn their house down should be charged with arson?

What if its in an apartment complex?

They wouldn't go to prison.
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I'm no expert bit I'm assuming Arson= Intent and a grease fire would be an accident.
 
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