need help asap please i think too much N but burnt plants

bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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just moved to hydro and dont know anything about it but it seems like something is offcuz the edge of some of the leaves are turning crispy and burnt they arent changing color just drying out and getting crispy i asked a friend about it but he only knows soil and he said that happened to him from too much nitrogen but i wanted to ghet some help from someone experienced with hydro before i redo nutes

i dont have a ppm meter yet but i am running 2000w hps on a 60 site aeroflo 2 the nutes right now are

a little less than 1tsp mper gallon gh micro (all i had for micro)
a little less than 1 tsp per gallon botanicare grow
little less than 1 tsp per gallon botinacare organic bloom
little less than 1 stp per g botanicafrer cal-mag

imnot sure exactly how to do the nutes since im not vegging at all sraight from cloner to flower so i did a liottle less thaqn what the botle said for transition from veg to flower but im wondering if it is too much N should i jut use ther botanicare flower nutes and the cal mag

also the room is a littler hot right now still fixing the ventilation right but i have had rooms hotter than this and not turned my leaves crispy

thanks for any help i get but im really only looking for help form people who actually grow hydro
 
deeznutz11

deeznutz11

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How big is your grow space? 2000 watt hps is huge! You may have temp issues if the leafs arnt yellow but crispy. What kind of venting do you have?
 
Wolfman Zen

Wolfman Zen

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Try it all at 1/4 strength... but first... flush your system and give them nothing but ph'd water for a day or 2... Keep an eye on the lower leaves... if there color starts to lighten up or start to yellow... then introduce them back to nutes at a 1/4 strength.. and keep raising the nute levels with each rez change as long as they seem to like it... good luck.. I'm doing hydro with no ppm.. I just watch my plants and give them what they need.

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bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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thanks for the info my temps are a bit high right now like 89 i know its high i just have to finish making holes in wall for vent into another space i have a bad ass tim the toolman taylor syle fan ecosomething 6" and its a huge space not even half the room used i dont know the dimnensions but it should be the master bedroom lol im gonna switch them with just ph water for tonight and i hit a lick so tomorrow ima go to the store and get a ppm and nip this problem in the bud right now
 
Wolfman Zen

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Let us know how it goes... and by the way.. I'm using PureBlend Pro bloom... Stuff is great!!

Just don't go with the mixing instructions on the back... that will burn your plants.. I've been using it with no ppm meter, and didn't even bother with the instructions.. I just added a capful and kept adding capfuls every other feeding or so.. I'm up to 5 capfuls per gallon and my girls are loving it... feel free to visit my thread.. link in my sig.



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bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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yeah diluted it down some and now theh ylook great i did by a pm meter but im lazy and havent used it yet since they look sexy agaoin lol
 
toast master

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You must have your ppm . ph meters to realy get a handle on your problem... otherwise your just guessin.... 90 is to hot vent more...good luck
 
Wolfman Zen

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toast master

toast master

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Say what wolfman..... no meter is guessing.... and most women dont use chemicals for nutrition.... money is what they respond to .. get some meters it pays for its self
 
Earl

Earl

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I wish I could read my plants,
but I can't.

At least not until after they have been fried.

That's why I totally agree with Toast Master,
you need to fly by the gauges
and you need meters to do that.

Carefully measuring your nutes will help a lot
and using RO.

I use eye droppers and measuring devices in Milli liters.

I can measure my nutes down to 1/10th ml

Barricade (Potassium Slicate) is .3ml/gl
I use an eye dropper to put three drops per gallon.

Measuring with "just about a tea spoon" is a big part of your problem.
 
bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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well i can read thm we got it under control and vent is fixed it stays 79 to 81 which might be a little high but ive grown dank in a smaller rom with same lights trhat stayed 85 an d had great crystal growth so im very happy with my new vent prblem i got my meter and got ph to 5.8 and al b fuct said to do 1400 ppm but that seems a little high os im trying 1000 ppm and see how that does and if thats showing deficiencies i will go up to 1400 i will go up eventually anyay but now they are looking beautifully healthy and im happy with it i think i could have guessed like you said cuz this isnt my first attempt just first hydro nd i have gotten pretty good at reading my babies but i really appreciate all the input but like i said i got a 300 dollar blue lab meter measures water temp ph ppm ec and sopmething else so i think its gonna be all gravy from now on im just using the botaniare mostly organic bloom and cal mag ill give it a day or so and see how it does then adjust as needed once they are budding and look impressive ill post a pic maybe but i am shocked how well hydro is i started some c99 clones to make mothers 2-3 weeks before i saterted the dro plants and the hydro ones arre almost double the size as the cpp and insane roots i could not believe the difference hydro makes its insane fast im hoping that means the bud growth will also be bigger faster
 
Wolfman Zen

Wolfman Zen

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toast master said:
Say what wolfman..... no meter is guessing.... and most women dont use chemicals for nutrition.... money is what they respond to .. get some meters it pays for its self
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IT'S NOT GUESSING.... but lol at responding to money

Earl said:
I wish I could read my plants,
but I can't.

At least not until after they have been fried.

That's why I totally agree with Toast Master,
you need to fly by the gauges
and you need meters to do that.

Carefully measuring your nutes will help a lot
and using RO.

I use eye droppers and measuring devices in Milli liters.

I can measure my nutes down to 1/10th ml

Barricade (Potassium Slicate) is .3ml/gl
I use an eye dropper to put three drops per gallon.

Measuring with "just about a tea spoon" is a big part of your problem.
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I'm glad that you are getting very technical with your grows. As an engineer, I can appreciate that... but you don't have to be so technical to get descent herb... and most growers trying hydro for the first time are not trying to grow award winning buds... in fact, from reading the forums, it looks like most switch from soil to hydro to shave some time off their grows.





Whoow guys... I'm not saying for everyone to throw away their ppm meters and go by "feel"

not at all... having a ppm meter is definitely better then no meter hands down.... (especualy chemical nutes.)

I'm just saying... that it is possible.. I know.. cuz that is how i'm doing it.. and like I mentioned before.. it's not easy, and some people may never be able to "feel" their girls.. no matter how much attention they pay... but it is possible.

I'm using tap water (I'm lucky.. good tap water).. no ppm meter, and a simple dropper style ph testing kit. and my girls, and their clones, are loving it!..

If you are a grower, trying hydro for the first time, and find yourself with no ppm meter.. it doesn't mean the end of your grow... it just means you will have to pay very close attention to your girls and the nutes you give them. In this circumstance you are better off with organic nutes... start them low, and work you way up from there. Take notes of how much you give them, and when, as well as how they respond between feedings... I'm not going to go into details, but trust me... it's far from guessing!

If I could guess that well... I wouldn't be here typing this out... I'll be in Vegas ;-)

bigtittymilf... I'm glad things are going smoothly for now and I look forward to seeing pix of your girls... good luck... and keep it fun =]

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bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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im leary about posting pics i posted a few pics about 8 months ago under another name of my first crop ever when almost done if i do post some of these ill wait till the buds are developed cuz i dont have a camera so if im gonna borrow a camera im gonna do it when they are impressive ;) right now ive lollipopped half so hlaf look like just long stalks and the others look like little vegging plants nothing to see really yet
 
bigtittymilf

bigtittymilf

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just busted out and calibrated my super pimp tight bluelab combo meter and got everything adjusted i went to 5.8ph and i got 1100 ppm apparently the nutes i use drop ph alot so it was hard to get 1400 and 5.8ph i would add nutes ph goes down so i add more tap water i dont have ph up never needed it when i did soil so i didnt think i need now which i guess i dont cuz just adding more tap will raise the ph but then it drops the ppm lol

the meter is the shit though measures ppm/ec/ph/temp/ and something else i forget that is kinda like ec
 
potroast

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Well, I'm glad you're getting back on track with your grow, but no one has told you the reason for your original problem.

It looks like you are mixing nutrients without considering what is in them. The GH Micro has both ammonia nitrogen and nitrate nitrogen. The Botanicare Grow and Bloom components you used both have nitrogen. Yes, it could be too much Nitrogen.

You probably shouldn't mix basic salts, and use what the mfg says to use in the mix of those components. Then you can use whatever additives that you want.

HTH :mrgreen:
 
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