Why don't black and white Americans live together ?

vostok

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Legal segregation in the US may have ended more than 50 years ago. But in many parts of the country, Americans of different races aren't neighbours - they don't go to the same schools, they don't shop at the same stores, and they don't always have access to the same services.

In 2016 the issue of race will remain high on the agenda in the United States. The police killings of unarmed black men and women over the past few years reignited a debate over race relations in America, and the reverberations will be felt in the upcoming presidential election and beyond.

Ferguson, Baltimore and Chicago are three cities synonymous with racial tensions - but all three have another common denominator. They, like many other American cities, are still very segregated.

In my reporting across the United States I've seen this first hand - from Louisiana to Kansas, Alabama to Wisconsin, Georgia to Nebraska. In so many of these places people of other races simply don't mix, not through choice but circumstance. And if there's no interaction between races, it's harder for conversations on how to solve race problems to even begin.

Newly released census data, analysed by the Brookings Institution, shows black-white segregation is modestly declining in large cities, but it remains high. If zero is a measure for perfect integration and 100 is complete segregation, analysis from Brookings showed most of the country's largest metropolitan areas have segregation levels of between 50 to 70.

According to the Brookings report, "more than half of blacks would need to move to achieve complete integration".

(Some have pointed out that the wording of this part of the report itself highlights the challenges in these issues - why can't this be measured in the number whites who would have to move?)

Racial and socioeconomic segregation are closely linked - if you're a black person in America, you're more likely than a white person to live in an area of concentrated poverty.

This isn't simply a matter of choice, or chance. Some of it is by design - and down to decades-old housing policies which actively prevented African Americans from living in certain areas.

Kansas City is one of the country's most segregated cities. Drive around the west of Troost Avenue and there are large houses, their vast porches overlooking equally vast driveways. Properties are anything from $356,000 (£243,000) to $1.2m.

But you only have to go east to see a very different picture. Abandoned houses and unkempt lawns greet you at most corners. One building I pass is completely boarded up, with piles of rubbish outside, and the words "Stay Out" in spray paint.

The housing on either side of Troost is very much split down race lines.

The US government had a hand in this creating this segregation due to practices it instituted back in the 1930s, which prevented many blacks from getting on the property ladder in certain areas.

When the federal government began underwriting home loans for Americans to help boost the economy as part of the New Deal, strict guidelines were drawn up regarding where mortgages could be issued.

Areas where minorities lived were seen as risky investments and black families were routinely denied mortgages, locking them out of the housing market.

The practice was known as redlining because red ink marked out the minority areas. As Kansas City-based historian Bill Worley explained to me, these policies continued right into the 1960s, and excluded American blacks from one of the greatest motors of wealth in the 20th Century - home ownership.


Redlining is now theoretically outlawed in the United States, and has been since the 1970s, but it's still happening to this day.

"Banks continue to build and structure their lending operations in a way that avoids or fails to meaningfully serve communities of colour, based on assumptions about the financial risk," Vanita Gupta, the justice department's top civil rights lawyer, said last September, as she pledged more action to stop discriminatory lending.

Another factor which made access to housing prohibitive were the restrictive racial covenants written into housing contracts.

Until 1948, it was perfectly legal for a black person to be prevented from buying or living in a house.

Bill Worley showed me an example of a restrictive racial covenant drawn up in Kansas City by the city's best known property developer during that time, JC Nichols.

"None of the said lots shall be conveyed to, used, owned nor occupied by Negroes as owner or tenants," it read. Other groups, including Jews, were also written into these kind of contracts.

The covenants created affluent white suburbs for middle- and upper-income families. By World War One, Nichols met developers in other cities who were also doing this. Huge new all-white suburbs sprang up across the country and the migration of white families to the suburbs became known as white flight.

Between redlining, racial covenants, and another practice known as blockbusting - where estate agents specialised in transitioning areas from white to black - segregation continued in the United States

Residential segregation in America peaked in 1970. More black families are moving into the suburbs and back to Southern cities they left after slavery ended, explains economic historian Leah Boustan.

"It may seem odd because we have stereotypes of the South, but residential segregation levels are lowest in Southern cities such as Atlanta, Houston and Dallas," she says.

But even though Atlanta is one of the least segregated cities in the United States, challenges persist.

On a visit to the city I met Nicole and Lewis Anderson, two African Americans who work in corporate jobs.

They told me they'd been profiled by estate agents, who've only shown them homes in certain "black" areas.

"When we started out we had a few whites in our area, but within a few years they all moved out,"
said Lewis Anderson.

"For us African Americans when we see a group of white people move to the neighbourhood we think that's good, we're cool with that. But for many white families that's not the case - they start to get discouraged, they start to worry about the property value and leave."

There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Lewis and Nicole aren't alone in being encouraged to live in so-called "black" areas. Research from the US government shows that minorities looking for housing are shown fewer properties than their white counterparts.

The Fair Housing Act was passed more than 40 years ago to end discrimination in housing, but it's not been properly enforced.

Last year President Obama pledged to toughen up this law, with new rules. Now government money can only be given for new housing projects if they're shown to further integration in neighbourhoods, and there'll be penalties for those who don't adhere to this. But it only applies to public housing. Private developers can continue to build without such conditions.

"The Fair Housing Act commanded that communities that received government money do what they can to affirmatively further fair housing," Housing Secretary Julian Castro told me in an interview.

"The problem was that for many years that requirement was never adequately defined or enforced."

Mr Castro, who sits in the president's cabinet and is widely tipped as a possible Democratic vice-presidential running mate in this year's election, said one way his department will ensure areas of poverty aren't ignored is by giving towns and cities access to demographic data, so they can plan housing better.

The key challenge remains - decades on from the civil rights movement, many black and white Americans simply don't mix. And as the US contends with race problems, getting to know each other better is one step in understanding and fixing some of those problems.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35255835
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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My neighborhood has always been integrated since day one I bought my house new. The black people next door are absolutely great neighbors as are the Caucasian ones. It is rare as a rainbow to see a cop patrolling my neighborhood and it's a humble neighborhood. Houses well under 100k. As a matter of fact, I know it's possible in the county I live to find segregated areas but, I'm gonna say 90% of the entire county is integrated.

We bring up the racism drama far too often to entertain ourselves by complaining and judging. Makes us feel all special and better than everyone else. People who aren't racist exist and we loathe being all profiled and lumped into a group(racist) and then judged just because of the color of our skin. It's a two way street. Look at that person in the mirror.

Let's talk about. Peace and Love! TO ALL!
 

Harrekin

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My neighborhood has always been integrated since day one I bought my house new. The black people next door are absolutely great neighbors as are the Caucasian ones. It is rare as a rainbow to see a cop patrolling my neighborhood and it's a humble neighborhood. Houses well under 100k. As a matter of fact, I know it's possible in the county I live to find segregated areas but, I'm gonna say 90% of the entire county is integrated.

We bring up the racism drama far too often to entertain ourselves by complaining and judging. Makes us feel all special and better than everyone else. People who aren't racist exist and we loathe being all profiled and lumped into a group(racist) and then judged just because of the color of our skin. It's a two way street. Look at that person in the mirror.

Let's talk about. Peace and Love! TO ALL!
If everyone just smoked loads of weed all the time there'd be no issues whatsoever.
 

Rob Roy

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the legacy of racial segregation in america, which many right wing members here want to return to.

/thread

Almost. The legacy of GOVERNMENT ENFORCED SEGREGATION, then the reactionary followup, the legacy of GOVERNMENT ENFORCED INTEGRATION.

They are two sides of the same coin, both attempt to use an unjust means "force", neither side of the coin is the solution.

Viewing people and judging people as individuals and ALLOWING them to make their own choices is the way for people to see that good people and bad people come in all colors.





Still butchering lumber for a living or has your wife relented and given you back your apron?
 

vostok

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Gun laws and race issues in the usa
leaves many overseas asking questions
either that or walking around with a big question mark over there heads
cartoon style

we don't have negroes or homosexuals where I'm at
so I'm kinda sheltered in ur bias
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Gun laws and race issues in the usa
leaves many overseas asking questions
either that or walking around with a big question mark over there heads
cartoon style

we don't have negroes or homosexuals where I'm at
so I'm kinda sheltered in ur bias
STOP...where are you at that does not have any homosexuals ?
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Gun laws and race issues in the usa
leaves many overseas asking questions
either that or walking around with a big question mark over there heads
cartoon style

we don't have negroes or homosexuals where I'm at
so I'm kinda sheltered in ur bias

I guess you`ll never know one of those hot, skinny,tight ass black chicks with stiff tits.
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
I guess you`ll never know one of those hot, skinny,tight ass black chicks with stiff tits.

Trans sexual s not into that or Crack Whores ..nah

I have gained some experience with perhaps similar in Brazil

but surprise surprise I didn't have to pay her off either

in time either will u
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member

Trans sexual s not into that or Crack Whores ..nah

I have gained some experience with perhaps similar in Brazil

but surprise surprise I didn't have to pay her off either

in time either will u


That`s not a hot black chick.........That chick needs pullup. A hot twenty something black chick can hold a can of beer on each. that`s stiff tits.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member

Trans sexual s not into that or Crack Whores ..nah

I have gained some experience with perhaps similar in Brazil

but surprise surprise I didn't have to pay her off either

in time either will u


I don`t have to pay them off, the have to keep hush or never again. Come up to Boston, the wear the tightest Levi or Sergio.......
 
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