So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

Mad Hamish

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what hapens if the tea isnt diluted enough? I read that the tea wont burn plants but will it be like overload for the plant to take it full strength?
Bokashi juice is very low Ph which in even organic can be a bit of a shock to the system. I prefer taking the juice and adding to an ACT to culture microbes further from there. I am very careful with anaerobic compost it is strong stuff.
 

Cory and trevor

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125 pages:please forgive me if this has been answered, 7pages is my limit for sifting thru threads lol. So, I read on icmag that waiting for the foam on compost tea is not the way to identify wen it's done brewing and ready for use. Is there a way to better identify when the tea is ready? I'm talking about without a microscope and excluding sending samples to a lab. My tea process is as follows: day 1, cold tap (well water, cold is untreated, non softened) in the bucket with 1/4 cup organic unsulpherated molasses. 1cup of my composted soil with a teaspoon each of ewc,Jamaica and Mexican bat guano in a cheesecloth bundle. After a day of my water bubbling with just molasses in it it's now room temp and suspend the bundle above the airstone. I also add a chunk of mosquito dunk in there too. The dunk is because I picked up fungus gnats in some topsoil from (s)Lowe's. So I bubble that until it foams good because I assumed that was the way to know it's done. So, what u think rrog? It's been a long road from dirt soup to 8months composted organics soil but I'm happy. Now I just want to improve until I die.
 

Rrog

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I won't do a brewed tea, so I don't personally know... Sorry man!

I'm still scratching my head wonderin why I had you pegged as hydro...

Dirt soup - is that some "soil" medium and bottled ferts? Bottle feeding? Dirt soup is funny
 

a senile fungus

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125 pages:please forgive me if this has been answered, 7pages is my limit for sifting thru threads lol. So, I read on icmag that waiting for the foam on compost tea is not the way to identify wen it's done brewing and ready for use. Is there a way to better identify when the tea is ready? I'm talking about without a microscope and excluding sending samples to a lab. My tea process is as follows: day 1, cold tap (well water, cold is untreated, non softened) in the bucket with 1/4 cup organic unsulpherated molasses. 1cup of my composted soil with a teaspoon each of ewc,Jamaica and Mexican bat guano in a cheesecloth bundle. After a day of my water bubbling with just molasses in it it's now room temp and suspend the bundle above the airstone. I also add a chunk of mosquito dunk in there too. The dunk is because I picked up fungus gnats in some topsoil from (s)Lowe's. So I bubble that until it foams good because I assumed that was the way to know it's done. So, what u think rrog? It's been a long road from dirt soup to 8months composted organics soil but I'm happy. Now I just want to improve until I die.

I think I'd always just leave mine for about 48hrs or so...

I always wanted to spread some on a slide and count life forms, but fuck it, 48hrs seemed to work just fine :-)
 

shredder4

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125 pages:please forgive me if this has been answered, 7pages is my limit for sifting thru threads lol. So, I read on icmag that waiting for the foam on compost tea is not the way to identify wen it's done brewing and ready for use. Is there a way to better identify when the tea is ready? I'm talking about without a microscope and excluding sending samples to a lab. My tea process is as follows: day 1, cold tap (well water, cold is untreated, non softened) in the bucket with 1/4 cup organic unsulpherated molasses. 1cup of my composted soil with a teaspoon each of ewc,Jamaica and Mexican bat guano in a cheesecloth bundle. After a day of my water bubbling with just molasses in it it's now room temp and suspend the bundle above the airstone. I also add a chunk of mosquito dunk in there too. The dunk is because I picked up fungus gnats in some topsoil from (s)Lowe's. So I bubble that until it foams good because I assumed that was the way to know it's done. So, what u think rrog? It's been a long road from dirt soup to 8months composted organics soil but I'm happy. Now I just want to improve until I die.
Not rrog but stayed at a holiday inn express.

For a compost tea where the intended result is a microbe population increase, the main ingredients are molasses, compost and water bubbled aggressively for 24-30 hours. The only reliable way to tell the microbe levels would be to use a microscope. Adding nutrients to this is usually not helpful.

The rest of the stuff you mentioned like guano in a tea would have a nutrient value, but could hurt microbe populations in a tea.

Nothing wrong with bubbling alfalfa, kelp meal, neem meal, guano or others for 24/hours before using. It helps suspend the nutrients in the water help make some nutrients soluble, or imediently available, and some insoluble organic materials will become available after microbes break them down.

Hope this helps
 

Cory and trevor

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I won't do a brewed tea, so I don't personally know... Sorry man!

I'm still scratching my head wonderin why I had you pegged as hydro...

Dirt soup - is that some "soil" medium and bottled ferts? Bottle feeding? Dirt soup is funny
I can't take credit for the soup style, the rev used that analogy in tlo. Bottles on soil being like a nutrient packed soup and living soil being more like a full steak dinner. I used to use Fox farms whole line and i get soil cook for a month. I was wasting a lot of stuff, money being high on that list. It's better now.
 

Cory and trevor

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It's funny, the Times that are given both on here and where I red that the foam means nothing g both coincide to when I get foam. 24 to 48 hours. I almost always have a big foamy head like a nice draft beer by 48 hours.
 

Cory and trevor

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Shredder, are you saying the ewc don't have colonies I want to boost in the tea? I was under the impression they were rich in the good microbes I wanted to boost in my tea.
 

st0wandgrow

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Shredder, are you saying the ewc don't have colonies I want to boost in the tea? I was under the impression they were rich in the good microbes I wanted to boost in my tea.
Yes, the EWC have the microbes that you're looking to multiply. What shredder was saying is that the guano (and other nutrients) when added to a compost tea can actually hinder the microbial multiplication.

Brew stuff like that in a different tea. A nutrient tea, as opposed to a compost tea.
 

shredder4

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Ok, that makes sense stow. Do u think the teaspoon of each was/is hurting my current tea, or is simply a waste of guano?
Probably so. Just make one kind of tea or another. In this case 1 + 1 = 1, but both teas are still beneficial.

The biggest thing in this type of growing is the compost though. Get that right, and it's all gravy. It helps in ways you might not expect, like with bugs, disease, mold, and general vigor.
 

shredder4

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How's the man, Shredder?
Hey man! I woke up and it's january. Far out.

Whud up wid U? I heard Mary had a little lamb, and you ate it. Seduction by reduction. That's a felony in the bible belt, I think.
 
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st0wandgrow

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Ok, that makes sense stow. Do u think the teaspoon of each was/is hurting my current tea, or is simply a waste of guano?
Tough to say Cory. Without a high powered microscope there is really no way of knowing what helps and what doesn't. We do know that Tim Wilson aka Microbeman has looked at slides and has advised that other ingredients be left out. Remember, the sole purpose of a compost tea is to multiply and extract beneficial microbes. The only thing beyond water, EWC, and plenty of oxygen that you need is a food stock for the microbes.... which is the blackstrap molasses.

Check out his website. He goes over what you can add and what to avoid...

http://www.microbeorganics.com/
 

Rudi I&I Automan

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Bokashi juice is very low Ph which in even organic can be a bit of a shock to the system. I prefer taking the juice and adding to an ACT to culture microbes further from there. I am very careful with anaerobic compost it is strong stuff.
thanx, i should have mentioned watering it down and its useless after a day or so. but makes for a good cleaner

less is more
 

Mad Hamish

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It's funny, the Times that are given both on here and where I red that the foam means nothing g both coincide to when I get foam. 24 to 48 hours. I almost always have a big foamy head like a nice draft beer by 48 hours.
You actually want to get rid of foam. Is screws up your teas' air exchange with atmosphere. A drop of cooking oil is usually enough to destroy foam heads. Jusy one drop maybe two.
 
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