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OddBall1st

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ha ha, all that post showed was that you do not understand the basics. I've got better things to do with my time than teach you shit like that

When you are "capable" of understanding and posting in a manner that reflects it I may reply

Until then you don't need my help to look stupid

That`s what I`d say too as I headed out.
 

ginjawarrior

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The one at the end of an International runway that absorbs heat from jetwash. The one behind the AC exhaust.
Wait didn't you say the earth was rotating? Surely that would move heat away???
Like I said, the level don`t lie but can give you a wrong reading if there is even one tiny piece of debris under it.

The tape measure will not lie, but if I hold it in the wrong place, you get the incorrect reading because of it.

The thermometer wont lie, but carefully placed can give you false numbers.

I asked why they even turned the first screw with the instrument at the back of the runway for a reason you know.
They did it just to mess with your head....

No actually they had a meeting and decided the earth's rotation would solve all their problems....

You do know the earth is rotating?
 

OddBall1st

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You guys can shoot, but not absorb. Most people don`t understand the science papers because of all the abbreviations and big wordings. But they write them so we can read them,.....

I could tell a customer that number three cylinder is misfireing and that`s why the cat seems to not be working,...or I could tell them the lead to the plug on number three cylinder is frayed and not conducting so ignore the cat reading for now. Or you need a new cat, fix the wire and make a killing.
 

ginjawarrior

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My point is I can prove cat failure and Cylinder failure when both are fine.
So what you're saying is, because you rip your customers off then climate science must be wrong?

Either "sounds legit" or perhaps you should stop judging world by your standards.....
 

OddBall1st

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So what you're saying is, because you rip your customers off then climate science must be wrong?

Either "sounds legit" or perhaps you should stop judging world by your standards.....

No not at all, but not surprising you took it that way, you are on the defensive.

I pointed out that data in the wrong readings can give me room to play just like scientist to people not knowing better.

Nowhere in what I posted indicated I rip off my customers when I work at the station. You felt the need to alter the meanings and claim I did.
 

ginjawarrior

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No not at all, but not surprising you took it that way, you are on the defensive.

I pointed out that data in the wrong readings can give me room to play just like scientist to people not knowing better.

Nowhere in what I posted indicated I rip off my customers when I work at the station. You felt the need to alter the meanings and claim I did.
Ahhh OK, I had thought you were speaking from experience with your overly simplistic analogy. Instead I now know you were just making shit up.

Here let's see if I can improve your analogy to better fit reality

You (as mechanic) examine car, do some tests and shit, finally finding out what's wrong. You write a detailed report of findings for customer, But first you need to give that written report to other independent mechanics who check your work before you can give it to customer.
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Once your customer has your report all the mechanics around the world can also see your work and will happily show how/where you are wrong as it will boost their reputation and ruin yours
 

OddBall1st

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Ahhh OK, I had thought you were speaking from experience with your overly simplistic analogy. Instead I now know you were just making shit up.

Here let's see if I can improve your analogy to better fit reality

You (as mechanic) examine car, do some tests and shit, finally finding out what's wrong. You write a detailed report of findings for customer, But first you need to give that written report to other independent mechanics who check your work before you can give it to customer.
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Once your customer has your report all the mechanics around the world can also see your work and will happily show how/where you are wrong as it will boost their reputation and ruin yours


No, not at all. See, even you can be mistaken.

What I wanted to and tried to show was that correct data can be misleading.

What I meant was the O2 sensor aft#2 will trip the engine light because it is approaching the reading of the one fore of it before the converter. the aft should always be none changing and lowermost of the time. When all those mechanics plug into the car, the computer is gonna say the code and it`s gonna tell them the cat is faulty. Even though what just happened is a 100% proof that the cat is not working, it does not mean the cat is not working. Several things can send un-burnt fuel down the pipe. Making it a cat problem by collected data. The #2 gets dirty from raw fuel. Even when a cylinder is skipping and turns that light on.

How is that relevant ? Because in this global warming thing, they are acting on data collected. I showed data collected isn`t enough.
 

ginjawarrior

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No, not at all. See, even you can be mistaken.

What I wanted to and tried to show was that correct data can be misleading.

What I meant was the O2 sensor aft#2 will trip the engine light because it is approaching the reading of the one fore of it before the converter. the aft should always be none changing and lowermost of the time. When all those mechanics plug into the car, the computer is gonna say the code and it`s gonna tell them the cat is faulty. Even though what just happened is a 100% proof that the cat is not working, it does not mean the cat is not working. Several things can send un-burnt fuel down the pipe. Making it a cat problem by collected data. The #2 gets dirty from raw fuel. Even when a cylinder is skipping and turns that light on.

How is that relevant ? Because in this global warming thing, they are acting on data collected. I showed data collected isn`t enough.
I think it's cute that even though you clearly don't understand anything about this, you still think you have something to contribute
 

OddBall1st

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I think it's cute that even though you clearly don't understand anything about this, you still think you have something to contribute
That`s fine but don`t use data alone to try and explain to me. Even the 100% flawless kind.

I`m still waiting for an effect of global warming to hit the United States, Global warming is avoiding it.

You keep thinking what your thinking.

I`ll keep thinking that climate change is expected and global warming is possible/likely, but not proven to be man made.

The only thing that makes sense/cents, is when paddy said you must stop emissions first. That`s the key to the safe.
 

OddBall1st

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So today I read in just about all the news outlets that ..."SNOW TO SLAM PARTS OF THE US" ....WTF, It`s winter, There`s an Alberta clipper dropping down from the Alberta region/lakes and heading East, it has little moisture to work with but lots of energy. Most of the southern areas like DC NJ and so are going to see a rain to snow change, with maybe an inch or two. New England is expected to see the same except points North like Maine, Northern NH and Vermont. Where it stays all snow, amounts North could see a foot or more (very Normal in January) and mid New England can see 1to 3 inches and the Southern New England States and points South could see an inch after the change over from rain.

Long ass stupid explanation is above, Short version, should be Alberta Clipper to drop down with a dusting to 3 inches spread out over Southern New England. These storms can stall in the gulf of Maine and grow to enormous strength and clobber us with anything from 12 to 30 inches, we here in New England know this and expect it can, but not always happens.

After the Global Warming thing came to life, shit like this is printed in such a way to cause alarm, show face that science has been right, we better watch out at every system of energy to come by.


WTF man, it`s a Clipper, no need for alarm and no need to change cold Front to Artic Vortex. So you know, in the story, this is due to a large Artic Vortex dropping in from the Artic. So fucking what, it`s a cold front with energy to spin, Why the big fucking hipe about changing meteorological terms to make things seem abnormal and out of place ?

This is the kind of shit to expect from the Global warming crowd, Change in terminology, change in drastic to show some kind of alarming trend.

Have the scientists and warming crowd been beaten back that far ? So far indeed it calls for term changes and alarming reports ?

When will these smart as can be scientist realize that they are not fooling anyone ?
Is that what it`s come to, a race to show face and beat their chests ?

I think they need to STFU with this shit and slow down a bit, They got their monies.
It`s shit like this that turns me and others away from anything they have to say or do.

Sorry for the rant but when will this shit end ?
 

ginjawarrior

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I`m still waiting for an effect of global warming to hit the United States, Global warming is avoiding it.

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WTF man, it`s a Clipper, no need for alarm and no need to change cold Front to Artic Vortex. So you know, in the story, this is due to a large Artic Vortex dropping in from the Artic. So fucking what, it`s a cold front with energy to spin, Why the big fucking hipe about changing meteorological terms to make things seem abnormal and out of place ?
its called an artic vortex because the jet stream is dipping down across the middle of usa

its not the same as a cold front
 

OddBall1st

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It has two sides trying to slide over and under the other, this causes it to rotate,(like a drain air coming up water going down) a Polar vortex has cold air say32 degrees on the warm side and say 22 degrees on the colder side,.....warmer air going up colder air going down. The front`s are named accordingly. with moisture, the weight comes into play.

A tropical vortex, more commonly known as a tropical depression or Cat. Hurricane, is the same thing. There`s no need to call what the weather man makes easy for everyone to understand, the technical term so as to imply a change. Nothing has changed and these polar vortexes are and have been around since meteorology. Now, Today, they are used to hype things up and give false sense of climate change.
Cold core and warm core storms are and always have been around. Nothing new here.
 

OddBall1st

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When the jet stream dips down across the middle of the US, it`s called Winter, because that`s the only time it happens, and that is caused by the Seasons. Snow in Colorado is as common as fog in London.
 

ginjawarrior

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When the jet stream dips down across the middle of the US, it`s called Winter, because that`s the only time it happens, and that is caused by the Seasons. Snow in Colorado is as common as fog in London.
yeah you still clearly dont understand the difference between a "storm" and the "jet stream"
 

OddBall1st

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yeah you still clearly dont understand the difference between a "storm" and the "jet stream"

Of course I do, The jet stream is the steering force behind most of our weather, it steers cold air our way in the Winter because in dips down Seasonally. We have warmer Winters when it does not sink as deep down and cold bitter windy one`s when it does.
 

OddBall1st

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It can drop as deep as Texas and give New England warm as shit air, but it also gives birth to the famous New England Nore` Easter.
 

ginjawarrior

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Of course I do, The jet stream is the steering force behind most of our weather, it steers cold air our way in the Winter because in dips down Seasonally. We have warmer Winters when it does not sink as deep down and cold bitter windy one`s when it does.
yet an "alberta clipper" is a storm that starts to the north of the jet stream then crosses it to the south

what you have at the moment is the whole jetstream moving south instead
 
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