Ex-colleague will lobby MP Bill Blair to restrict field of pot growers

gb123

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A former high-ranking colleague and friend of MP Bill Blair, the Liberal government’s point man on marijuana legalization, will lobby the ex-Toronto police chief in hopes of ensuring a tightly controlled system in which only licensed firms are allowed to grow the lucrative drug.

Kim Derry, a deputy chief of the Toronto Police Service under Mr. Blair, is a promoter of marijuana facility THC Meds Ontario Inc., along with George Smitherman, a former Ontario Liberal deputy premier. Mr. Blair, put in charge of the marijuana file last week, will play a key role in determining who gets to grow the product once it is legalized.

While some growers want loosely regulated production across the country, the operators of companies such as THC Meds say production licences should be limited to professional operations.

In an interview, Mr. Derry said the government should aim to “get rid of the goons” who are currently in the marijuana business, calling for tight regulations on who can grow and sell the product.

“If there isn’t, it will be the wild west,” Mr. Derry said. “If you just open it up and allow everybody to grow this stuff and distribute it however they want, it will be an absolute mess.”

Mr. Derry said he’s looking forward to making his views known to Mr. Blair. “He and I have been friends for 40 odd years, so I’ll certainly give him my opinion, whether he asks for it or not,” said Mr. Derry, the security adviser for THC Meds Ontario, which is seeking a licence for a medical marijuana operation north of Toronto.

In a separate interview, Mr. Smitherman said Mr. Blair’s appointment to oversee the legalization of marijuana bodes well for companies like his.

“I don’t think we are going toward a model where legalization means you should grow some stuff in your backyard,” said Mr. Smitherman. “I’m of the opinion that a preponderance of caution around growing and distribution will guide the government’s model.”

Mr. Blair could not be reached by The Globe and Mail after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called on him to be a lead player on the issue of the legalization of marijuana.

To this point, much of the public debate surrounding the legalization of marijuana has focused on who would sell the product to the Canadian public, with provincial liquor control boards among the early favourites.

Still, Vancouver lawyer Kirk Tousaw said it is also important to liberalize the production of cannabis, pointing to American states where companies can sell the products that they grow.

“If we treat this like nuclear waste, it won’t work. Even if we treat it like alcohol, it may not work that well,” he said. “You have got to allow people to grow it for themselves.… It’s not really legalization if you are kicking people’s doors down and hauling them off to jail for growing the plant.”

Mr. Tousaw, who has represented many clients in high-profile marijuana-related cases, said Mr. Blair’s law-enforcement credentials are a cause for some concern at this point.

“People are creatures of their histories. If what you have seen of cannabis is gang violence and those kinds of things, I think you will have a perspective that is not necessarily in tune with the reality on the ground,” Mr. Tousaw said.

Still, he said he is looking forward to seeing who will be appointed to the Liberal government’s promised federal-provincial task force that will conduct consultations on the issue.

Mr. Tousaw said there will be problems if the new model is underregulated, which means public safety goals would not be achieved, or overregulated, in which the legal business would not be able to compete with the existing black market.

First elected to the House in the past election, Mr. Blair was appointed last December as the parliamentary secretary to Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould.

“[Mr.] Blair's experience and background in public safety will be a great asset to the government's work to ensure a careful and thoughtful approach to the legalization and regulation of marijuana,” Ms. Wilson-Raybould’s spokesman said in a statement last Friday.
 

johny sunset

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A former high-ranking colleague and friend of MP Bill Blair, the Liberal government’s point man on marijuana legalization, will lobby the ex-Toronto police chief in hopes of ensuring a tightly controlled system in which only licensed firms are allowed to grow the lucrative drug.

Kim Derry, a deputy chief of the Toronto Police Service under Mr. Blair, is a promoter of marijuana facility THC Meds Ontario Inc., along with George Smitherman, a former Ontario Liberal deputy premier. Mr. Blair, put in charge of the marijuana file last week, will play a key role in determining who gets to grow the product once it is legalized.

While some growers want loosely regulated production across the country, the operators of companies such as THC Meds say production licences should be limited to professional operations.

In an interview, Mr. Derry said the government should aim to “get rid of the goons” who are currently in the marijuana business, calling for tight regulations on who can grow and sell the product.

“If there isn’t, it will be the wild west,” Mr. Derry said. “If you just open it up and allow everybody to grow this stuff and distribute it however they want, it will be an absolute mess.”

Mr. Derry said he’s looking forward to making his views known to Mr. Blair. “He and I have been friends for 40 odd years, so I’ll certainly give him my opinion, whether he asks for it or not,” said Mr. Derry, the security adviser for THC Meds Ontario, which is seeking a licence for a medical marijuana operation north of Toronto.

In a separate interview, Mr. Smitherman said Mr. Blair’s appointment to oversee the legalization of marijuana bodes well for companies like his.

“I don’t think we are going toward a model where legalization means you should grow some stuff in your backyard,” said Mr. Smitherman. “I’m of the opinion that a preponderance of caution around growing and distribution will guide the government’s model.”

Mr. Blair could not be reached by The Globe and Mail after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called on him to be a lead player on the issue of the legalization of marijuana.

To this point, much of the public debate surrounding the legalization of marijuana has focused on who would sell the product to the Canadian public, with provincial liquor control boards among the early favourites.

Still, Vancouver lawyer Kirk Tousaw said it is also important to liberalize the production of cannabis, pointing to American states where companies can sell the products that they grow.

“If we treat this like nuclear waste, it won’t work. Even if we treat it like alcohol, it may not work that well,” he said. “You have got to allow people to grow it for themselves.… It’s not really legalization if you are kicking people’s doors down and hauling them off to jail for growing the plant.”

Mr. Tousaw, who has represented many clients in high-profile marijuana-related cases, said Mr. Blair’s law-enforcement credentials are a cause for some concern at this point.

“People are creatures of their histories. If what you have seen of cannabis is gang violence and those kinds of things, I think you will have a perspective that is not necessarily in tune with the reality on the ground,” Mr. Tousaw said.

Still, he said he is looking forward to seeing who will be appointed to the Liberal government’s promised federal-provincial task force that will conduct consultations on the issue.

Mr. Tousaw said there will be problems if the new model is underregulated, which means public safety goals would not be achieved, or overregulated, in which the legal business would not be able to compete with the existing black market.

First elected to the House in the past election, Mr. Blair was appointed last December as the parliamentary secretary to Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould.

“[Mr.] Blair's experience and background in public safety will be a great asset to the government's work to ensure a careful and thoughtful approach to the legalization and regulation of marijuana,” Ms. Wilson-Raybould’s spokesman said in a statement last Friday.

THCMeds Ontario Inc. is a company worth boycotting
 

gb123

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they would like to put people away!!!

That part is a given. Something has to be done with the institutions....They wanted a US penus industry after all.
I guess we get to see just how far they are willing to go in order to kill more with their regulations.
THCMeds Ontario Inc. is a company worth boycotting
So you pick and choose but you understand as well...

what were you calling me again...Hip...hip.......hippy??
 

bigmanc

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Do not be fooled. There will and are many LPs and future investors lobbying the government to take away your right to grow your own medication. They are stiff arming the country into buying from these pot factories that grow and sell subpar medication at a cost way above anything anyone has ever seen before. IMO the only ones with hope in this hell are MMAR patients or goldstars. We can't even hold our heads high to support the only organization helping us. Sure somethings are shady but again some things are shady at THC Meds Ontario, nothing is ever straight forward in advocacy is NEVER straight forward. Full of lies and trickery. Haven't been presented any proof at all of wrong doing but majority jump down the coalitions throat. Accepting accusations as proof only divides our strength, something these LP advocates are having no problem doing.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Clearly it matters to you. You're more obsessed with me than a rig pig is obsessed with his fat wife.
Any updates on your thoughts on what legalization should look like and which government would have been the better choice? Btw, are you the rig pig or the fat wife?
 

kDude

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big marijuana already trying to influence policy eh?

bloody idiots though eh?.. so when everyone couldn't grow it; black market flourished.. and you twats think it'll be any different if it's limited so only you can grow it?

what a farce. do these LP idiots even think before speaking? or just to gung ho seing the possible profits -that actually wouldn't exist, as mentioned above with black market- and caretaking their wallets?
 

doingdishes

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big marijuana already trying to influence policy eh?

bloody idiots though eh?.. so when everyone couldn't grow it; black market flourished.. and you twats think it'll be any different if it's limited so only you can grow it?

what a farce. do these LP idiots even think before speaking? or just to gung ho seing the possible profits -that actually wouldn't exist, as mentioned above with black market- and caretaking their wallets?
all they see are $$'s not people. it's very apparent.
 

doingdishes

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Turmel know anything about the date Phelan can be asked what's going on?
i have asked him a few times and he doesn't know anything about that.
check the injunction thread-Turmel has some VERY good news in his case. the judges brain slapped the Crown and it seems they understand the difference between Allard and Goldstars-Allard want to reinstate the MMAR while Goldstars wants repeal...reserved decision but if those 3 judges release their decision soon then it will completely moot Allard!
this is the guy who CONroy made sure to point out "he's not a lawyer"..but he's getting farther than CONoy for FREE!!! well almost-we have to pay filing fees. no need of a million $$.
this new development could push Phelan to issue his decision soon because if the 3 judges release their decsion before Phelan, we won't have ANY need for the Allard case! John Turmel will have done it for us and we will be able to produce again!! everyone who needs it will be able to!!!!!!!!
yes, i am excited
 
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torontomeds

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i have asked him a few times and he doesn't know anything about that.
check the injunction thread-Turmel has some VERY good news in his case. the judges brain slapped the Crown and it seems they understand the difference between Allard and Goldstars-Allard want to reinstate the MMAR while Goldstars wants repeal...reserved decision but if those 3 judges release their decision soon than Phelan, it will completely moot Allard!
this is the guy who CONroy made sure to point out "he's not a lawyer"..but he's getting farther than CONoy for FREE!!! well almost-we have to pay filing fees. no need of a million $$.
this new development could push Phelan to issue his decision sson because if the 3 judges release their decsion before Phelan, we won't have ANY need for the Allard case! John Turmel will have done it for us and we will be able to produce again!! everyone who needs it will be able to!!!!!!!!
yes, i am excited
Sweeet!
 

JungleStrikeGuy

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Yet another LP (wannabe in this case) scumbag trying to enforce prohibition-lite.

I like how he says 'I'm going to give him my opinion whether he wants it or not', sounds like he may not be as good of friends with Blair as he thinks he is :)
 
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