Canna coco

[Abucks]

Hello all. I've been growing in soil for a few years now, and I've decided to switch to canna coco natural with canna coco nuts. Any tips for growing in coco would be great.

 

[bryangtho]

I've been using coco for 15 years. To me one of the most important thing is the way u feed them. I use a ring feeder to feed my plants with a digital timer u can feed by hand but a lot of work. The way i grow is run the waste system

 

[Abucks]

I've been using coco for 15 years. To me one of the most important thing is the way u feed them. I use a ring feeder to feed my plants with a digital timer u can feed by hand but a lot of work. The way i grow is run the waste system

I'm going to water this round by hand. The way my room, and water supply is set up, it isn't to bad. I'll be growing in 15 gallon smart pots with drain to waist. Ill be running 2k watts covering a 4x8 scrog. The whole set up is what I'm using to grow in soil right now. I'm switching to coco to speed up my cycle and increase my yeilds. I grew in coco years back and did all right, but getting back into it, I'm seeing things have changed. Hoping to brush up on here rather then in the room!

 

[ghb]

recycle your coco it gets better.
allow the plants to drink what they have been given before watering again.
feed strong at all times except for the last week.

probably the three biggest tips i could think of from the top of my head.

i have lots of videos doing multiple cycles in the same coco, i suggest you watch them if you get a chance. 38 months, 12 bags of coco and 30+lb of dank harvested. some disagree with my methods but they do indeed work

 

[Abucks]

recycle your coco it gets better.
allow the plants to drink what they have been given before watering again.
feed strong at all times except for the last week.

probably the three biggest tips i could think of from the top of my head.

i have lots of videos doing multiple cycles in the same coco, i suggest you watch them if you get a chance. 38 months, 12 bags of coco and 30+lb of dank harvested. some disagree with my methods but they do indeed work

Thank you. If I remember right, the old coco I grew in gave me fits with cal/mag and P. From what I have been reading, canna has solved these issues. I would post pics of past grows, but I can't figure how to do it on here

 

[Abucks]

there we go!

 

[Abucks]

Couple of dumb questions here, but I'm sick o looking and not finding answers. How do you like other peoples posts? There is no "like" button that I can find. And how do you start a photo gallery?

 

[MickFoster]

I'm going to water this round by hand. The way my room, and water supply is set up, it isn't to bad. I'll be growing in 15 gallon smart pots with drain to waist. Ill be running 2k watts covering a 4x8 scrog. The whole set up is what I'm using to grow in soil right now. I'm switching to coco to speed up my cycle and increase my yeilds. I grew in coco years back and did all right, but getting back into it, I'm seeing things have changed. Hoping to brush up on here rather then in the room!

Everything sounds good. You might want to consider using smaller containers - 15 gallons is quite large for coco especially indoors. I grow in 2 gallon containers and they allow me to grow 3-4 ft. plants with no problem. Have a great and successful grow. And I have to disagree with the above post by ghb - watering daily after the roots are established replenishes with fresh nutes and pulls in fresh oxygen. I water full grown plants 2 times a day.

 

[ghb]

Everything sounds good. You might want to consider using smaller containers - 15 gallons is quite large for coco especially indoors. I grow in 2 gallon containers and they allow me to grow 3-4 ft. plants with no problem. Have a great and successful grow. And I have to disagree with the above post by ghb - watering daily after the roots are established replenishes with fresh nutes and pulls in fresh oxygen. I water full grown plants 2 times a day.

if you had bigger pots you wouldn't need to water twice a day. i visit my garden twice a week maximum and consistently get good yields of high quality product, obviously if you need to water twice a day that is a hell of a lot of time you will spend in the garden but if that's your hobby and you enjoy that then i don't see a problem.

i think the roots have better access to oxygen when left to dry out than they do if you keep them constantly wet, i also notice a hell of a lot more resin when the humidity drops, something that is less likely to happen if you are constantly watering pots.

not to mention the added cost of nutes and salt build up that may occur which could in turn harm freshly transplanted clones when you are a few cycles in in the same coco.

 

[Abucks]

I have to agree with bigger pots. In my experience the bigger the rootball, the bigger the harvest. We are limited to 12 patients here, so we have to grow monster plants to compensate.

 

[ghb]

sorry couldn't resist lol, some old footage of xxl indoor plants. i got near 2lb from one plant in this set up.

 

[Abucks]

sorry couldn't resist lol, some old footage of xxl indoor plants. i got near 2lb from one plant in this set up.

Those are some mighty fine plants! Unfortunately I'm restricted in hight, so I have to scrog until I build a grow building.

 

[ghb]

i'm used to tent growing so it was a nice change to be able to use the height, do you have plant limits to work under?.

 

[Abucks]

Yeah, 12 plants per patient. So bigger is deffinetly better! Lol

 

[MickFoster]

if you had bigger pots you wouldn't need to water twice a day. i visit my garden twice a week maximum and consistently get good yields of high quality product, obviously if you need to water twice a day that is a hell of a lot of time you will spend in the garden but if that's your hobby and you enjoy that then i don't see a problem.

i think the roots have better access to oxygen when left to dry out than they do if you keep them constantly wet, i also notice a hell of a lot more resin when the humidity drops, something that is less likely to happen if you are constantly watering pots.

not to mention the added cost of nutes and salt build up that may occur which could in turn harm freshly transplanted clones when you are a few cycles in in the same coco.

It seems we are at an impasse, and that's alright. Everyone has their own way of doing things and I'm sure you are very successful. IMO coco is hydroponics and should be treated as such - allowing the coco to dry is what you do in soil. I water 2 times a day not because I have to but because I want to and I enjoy spending time with my plants. IMO using 15 gallon containers indoors is a total waste of coco and unless you plan on vegging for 6 months or more, I doubt the roots would fill up the container. Watering/feeding daily doesn't cause salt build-up, it flushes out the salts. And as far as wasting money on nutes, I grow for personal use only, I only have 3 - 4 plants growing at once, and I use the KISS method which uses GH MaxiBloom only, and it only costs me about $0.11 per gallon. I have never had a deficiency nor a discolored leaf throughout my grows. I'm not trying to convince you, just trying to play the devil's advocate.

 

[Resinhound]

Canna hasnt solved anything as far as I know,coco still has the same cation exchange problems.You will probably have to add additional cal/mag and make sure you allow ph swings up to 6.0-6.2 to avoid cal/mag problems in flower.One of the main benefits of coco Is that you CAN water more often,watering pulls oxygen into the rootzone.

 

[Abucks]

It seems we are at an impasse, and that's alright. Everyone has their own way of doing things and I'm sure you are very successful. IMO coco is hydroponics and should be treated as such - allowing the coco to dry is what you do in soil. I water 2 times a day not because I have to but because I want to and I enjoy spending time with my plants. IMO using 15 gallon containers indoors is a total waste of coco and unless you plan on vegging for 6 months or more, I doubt the roots would fill up the container. Watering/feeding daily doesn't cause salt build-up, it flushes out the salts. And as far as wasting money on nutes, I grow for personal use only, I only have 3 - 4 plants growing at once, and I use the KISS method which uses GH MaxiBloom only, and it only costs me about $0.11 per gallon. I have never had a deficiency nor a discolored leaf throughout my grows. I'm not trying to convince you, just trying to play the devil's advocate.

 

[Abucks]

Youre very right. No two growers use exactly the same process. I've been using 15 gallon smart pots, and soil for a while now. I clone aeroponicaly and transplant straight into the big pots. Then veg for three to four weeks. By this time I've got roots blowing out the sides, and bottom of the pot, and the plants have fill 2/3 my screen. The smart pots air prune the roots so there is never an issue with rot, and root curl. At the end of my grow I have to peal the pots off the rootball, and am left with a 15gallon ball of roots. It's almost impossible to break it up without a shovel. This has worked for me, now I want to speed up the cycle, and increase the yield. So a switch to coco, and I'll let you guys know how it goes!

 

[Abucks]

As far as water frequncy, I'm going to fallow cannas rule of thumb. Water when the plant uses 50% of its supply.

 

[Resinhound]

Coco Is a hydroponic medium and should be treated as such.Its not soil,even canna tells you that.Growing in 15gal pots of coco is kinda dumb and defeats the purpose.Why do you think you see canna growing 10 plants on a 4in. Slab of coco.